Originally posted by Mr Master
I challenge anyone to find the term Reality 616 in that issue,
except for the ONE time Beak used it to describe Wanda Warping the 616 Universe.When Heather is talking about Earh 616 and it's events,
it's because that's the way they call ALL the UniverseS they come across.This cat doesn't read Exiles so he wouldn't know.
Check out any Exiles issue when they're talking about a specific Universe,
they term it Earth 742, Earth 6441, Earth 614 and so on ...Anyhow, what's interesting is,
the only time it's called Reality 616, is when Wanda is Warping it.
Meaningless.
That's just summerising what happened to Beaks source of interest,
which happenes to be Earth 616.This is no way restricts Wanda's Warp to the Earth, there is FAR too much PROOF screaming at us, Wanda Re-Created the 616 Universe and everything in it.
This is a complete fallacy.
No where in these scans does it mention ANYTHING about Wanda warping just the Earth, or it being global or any suggestion of any kind as to what happened in the previous scans with Beak.
Anyone is free to check out your tricks. 🙂
Its a such a shame that Heather flat out states that it was the WORLD that Scarlet Witch warped therefore revealing to us the context with which she was using the term "Earth 616". Here Heather is beyond reality, using her multiversal scanners and she doesnt refer to how Scarlet Witch warped the universe, or the reality of 616. She refers to how it was EARTH 616 and it was the WORLD.
This is in line with Romas comments that it was a GLOBAL alteration.
On top of that, in the What If series, it features the Watcher of 616 chronicling events across the multiverse which diverge from 616.
In the recent What If featuring the Disassembled Avengers, the Beast spearheads a plan to stop Wandas rampage. In this reality, she is defeated before she gets to say "No More mutants". At the end, when she is killed (along with Cap America who had secretly lost his mind and was in on the whole thing) Dr Strange uses the eye of Agamotto to scan all other realities to see what could have been if Beast hadnt intervened:
If Beast hadnt intervened, then Wandas rampage would have come to an end without the need for Wanda or Caps death (and therefore would have been in line with what happened in 616)
The key points are that the Eye Of Agamotto, (which scans across the multiverse) discovers that
a) in all other(other than this "What If" therefore including 616) realities it was just a peaceful WORLD that Pietro convinced Wanda to create.
b) In all other realities her subsequent reality warping just ridded the world of the mutant gene
c) In all other realities, the transformations were GLOBAL
"In ALL other realities her GLOBAL transformations"
So to sum it up. I have the omniversal guardian Roma stating that Wandas changes were GLOBAL
I have Heather scanning the multiverse and stating that the interference she had reading the 616 reality was caused by Wanda warping the WORLD
You have the Eye of Agamotto scanning across the multiverse and determining that in all other realities the Scarlet Witch JUST warped the world to create House of M and that ALL her changes in ALL other realities were GLOBAL.
GAME
SET
MATCH
GS. 😎
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Its a such a shame that Heather flat out states that it was the WORLD that Scarlet Witch warped therefore revealing to us the context with which she was using the term "Earth 616". Here Heather is beyond reality, using her multiversal scanners and she doesnt refer to how Scarlet Witch warped the universe, or the reality of 616. She refers to how it was EARTH 616 and it was the WORLD.This is in line with Romas comments that it was a GLOBAL alteration.
On top of that, in the What If series, it features the Watcher of 616 chronicling events across the multiverse which diverge from 616.
In the recent What If featuring the Disassembled Avengers, the Beast spearheads a plan to stop Wandas rampage. In this reality, she is defeated before she gets to say "No More mutants". At the end, when she is killed (along with Cap America who had secretly lost his mind and was in on the whole thing) Dr Strange uses the eye of Agamotto to scan all other realities to see what could have been if Beast hadnt intervened:
If Beast hadnt intervened, then Wandas rampage would have come to an end without the need for Wanda or Caps death (and therefore would have been in line with what happened in 616)
The key points are that the Eye Of Agamotto, (which scans across the multiverse) discovers that
a) in all other(other than this "What If" therefore including 616) realities it was just a peaceful WORLD that Pietro convinced Wanda to create.
b) In all other realities her subsequent reality warping just ridded the world of the mutant gene
c) In all other realities, the transformations were GLOBAL
"In ALL other realities her GLOBAL transformations"
So to sum it up. I have the omniversal guardian Roma stating that Wandas changes were GLOBAL
I have Heather scanning the multiverse and stating that the interference she had reading the 616 reality was caused by Wanda warping the WORLD
You have the Eye of Agamotto scanning across the multiverse and determining that in all other realities the Scarlet Witch JUST warped the world to create House of M and that ALL her changes in ALL other realities were GLOBAL.
GAME
SET
MATCH
GS. 😎
Excellent work.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Thank you. 🙂I just looked back at the Cosmic Extant thread where i stomped Emmie over that Phoenix is the Big Bang issue. Its not cool how they all ganged up on you like that. 👇
Yeah. And I was pretty much right. Just becuz I didn't have the scans, doesn't mean I didnt' know what I was talking about. They think that ganging up and Master burying good points in scans and his respect threads is cool.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Thank you. 🙂I just looked back at the Cosmic Extant thread where i stomped Emmie over that Phoenix is the Big Bang issue. Its not cool how they all ganged up on you like that.
Just cause a Sock and a clueless individual agree with you, means NOTHING.
EVERYONE else (Real Debaters) on this Forum KNOWS Wanda Warped the 616 Universe.
It's funny how easy it is to have a hater agree with one, wouldn't you say?
Nvr will suck any pp that disagrees with Mr M.
And the other, well, that's just the ultimate SOCK at KMC,
so whatever. 😆
Wanda was the CAUSE of the Chaos Wave,
Wanda was Generating the Chaos Wave.
Wanda was Driving the Chaos Wave into other Realities, like when it hit OtherWorld
"it is the End ... of ALL that is ... of ALL that will Ever be"
THIS SAME Chaos Wave brought back Jaspers 616 from another Plane of Reality
THIS SAME Chaos Wave is referred to as "Scarlet Witch's Reality Warp" in the Official Handbook Of The Marvel Universe v5 2006.
In THREE separate Bios
1. "During the Scarlet Witch's 'House of M' Reality Warp, Jaspers Reformed alive merged with the Fury"
(excerpt from the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe)
2. "Mad Jim Jaspers has also returned, brought back to life by the Scarlet Witch's recent Reality Warp"
And as I presented above, it was the Chaos Wave that manifested Jaspers 616 from another Plane. (he was dead)
3. Wanda gave Layla the power to "Perceive Divergent Realities"
"Layla showed Cage glimpses of his life prior to the Scarlet Witch's Reality Warp"
Wanda was sustaining and fueling the Chaos Waves's momentum with her own power subconsciously.
(which means without control)
BUT,
Wanda Remade Earth 616, (a Global Warp)
this Warp cracked a Breach in the Walls of Causality within the 616 Universe,
Wanda's Warp began to spread through the Breach, (Chaos Wave)
and across the 616 Universe, (Re-creating it)
it soon engulfed the 616 Universe and destroyed countless Walls in-between
UniverseS,
ultimately collapsing them.
The Second time Wanda altered Reality,
she Warped the 616 Universe according to Beak.
The Third time (no more Mutants) Wanda Remade Reality, she Re-created the entire 616 Universe this time back to it's normalacy, with the small change of eliminating the power of 90% of all the Mutants.
Wanda is a Universal Power,
but she is also an unwitting Omniversal power,
because she can collpase the Omniverse by excersing her power at a Global level,
which was the scale of her First Warp.
Wanda affected the entire 616 Universe and beyond:
With the line "No More mutants",
Wanda managed to shift Reality causing cracks across "ALL" Realities.
Allowing the Shadow King to slip back into the 616 universe.
Balasco says,
"Two Siblings" (Magneto & Wanda)
"Force ALL of Reality to CHANGE"
Carol (Ms Marvel says,
"She changed the World once huh?"
"Yes, ... but She Altered ALL of Reality"
NOT just the World, but She Altered ALL of Reality"
hum
"She's starting to REMAKE Reality 616... again"
(from the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe 2006 Saturnyne bio)
"She (Saturnyne) was later present on Otherworld
when DIMENSION-616 was ENGULFED in the Scarlet Witch's Reality Warp ...
Saturnyne showed little hesitation in suggesting destroying 616 to Prevent the Warp SPREADING"
Here is that scene On Panel,
Satynyne talking about the Chaos Wave or as the Official Bio puts it,
the Scarlet Witch's Reality Warp:
"Your Dimension is a Cancer, bringing Devastation to Branes ALL ALONG the SIDEREAL STRING ...
Sparing Yours condemns the REST"
whistling
Are ALL of these issues and Bios lying? 😆
Originally posted by Galan007
Good god.Why must the same scans be posted multiple times within the same thread?
There comes a point where people really do stop looking at what y'all are posting, [especially when all this really amounts to is a personal vendetta you 2 have against each other]. 😬
UM I just asked hadn't the same thread been posted before. Master REALLY has a bad habit of this.
