To be honest, this is a good fight, even if proteus didnt have the gem it would be a good fight to me. Proteus never showed a limit. Proteus could have affected the world but he never tried to do that, he actually never had a reason to do that.
Proteus has never shown a sign to struggle to accomplish anything, so who is to say that he wont be able to affect the world with his power. The problem in this fight is that wanda is powerful as hell and has like one of the most highest feats in 616 universe and could just wipe proteus off the face of the planet (if he didnt know that it was coming).
I think that proteus with the power gem has the power to cancel out wanda powers from affecting him and the same can be said for wanda. I really dont know who would win but it is a good fight. By the way it was stupid as hell to say that proteus has the power gem but dont know how to use it. Why would the threadster give someone a power and not give them the ability to use it.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Exiles issue 71:Heather talks about how her systems rebooted and she has figured out who warped “EARTH 616”
She goes into detail on the next page talking of how Wanda warped THE WORLD
In the above scan it talks of how Wanda is about to warp reality again
I challenge anyone to find the term Reality 616 in that issue,
except for the ONE time Beak used it to describe Wanda Warping the 616 Universe.
When Heather is talking about Earh 616 and it's events,
it's because that's the way they call ALL the UniverseS they come across.
This cat doesn't read Exiles so he wouldn't know.
Check out any Exiles issue when they're talking about a specific Universe,
they term it Earth 742, Earth 6441, Earth 614 and so on ...
Anyhow, what's interesting is,
the only time it's called Reality 616, is when Wanda is Warping it.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Exiles issue 72:The Intro page summarizes previous issues and talks of how Wanda warped EARTH 616 to create HOM and then talks of how at the end of the previous issue (where the previous scans are from) Wanda warped EARTH 616 again (so for the second time)
Meaningless.
That's just summerising what happened to Beaks source of interest,
which happenes to be Earth 616.
This is no way restricts Wanda's Warp to the Earth, there is FAR too much PROOF screaming at us, Wanda Re-Created the 616 Universe and everything in it.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
First page of Exiles 72, let’s see what changes occurred:Hmmmm.
In the SECOND and FINAL change it seems it was just the global
“No More Mutants” change after all.
This is a complete fallacy.
No where in these scans does it mention ANYTHING about Wanda warping just the Earth, or it being global or any suggestion of any kind as to what happened in the previous scans with Beak.
Anyone is free to check out your tricks. 🙂
Wanda was sustaining and fueling the Chaos Waves's momentum with her own power subconsciously.
(which means without control)
BUT,
Wanda Remade Earth 616, (a Global Warp)
this Warp cracked a Breach in the Walls of Causality within the 616 Universe,
Wanda's Warp began to spread through the Breach, (Chaos Wave)
and across the 616 Universe, (Re-creating it)
it soon engulfed the 616 Universe and destroyed countless Walls in-between
UniverseS,
ultimately collapsing them.
The Second time Wanda altered Reality,
she Warped the 616 Universe according to Beak.
The Third time (no more Mutants) Wanda Remade Reality, she Re-created the entire 616 Universe this time back to it's normalacy, with the small change of eliminating the power of 90% of all the Mutants.
Wanda is a Universal Power,
but she is also an unwitting Omniversal power,
because she can collpase the Omniverse by excersing her power at a Global level,
which was the scale of her First Warp.
"She's starting to REMAKE Reality 616... again"
(from the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe 2006 Saturnyne bio)
"She (Saturnyne) was later present on Otherworld
when Dimension-616 was Engulfed in the Scarlet Witch's Reality Warp ...
"Force ALL of Reality to CHANGE"
"She changed the World once huh?"
"Yes, ... but She Altered ALL of Reality"
With the line "No More mutants",
Wanda managed to shift Reality causing cracks across "ALL" Realities.
Allowing the Shadow King to slip back into the 616 universe.
shrug
(from the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe 2006 Saturnyne bio)
"She (Saturnyne) was later present on Otherworld
when Dimension-616 was Engulfed in the Scarlet Witch's Reality Warp ...
Saturnyne showed little hesitation in suggesting destroying 616 to Prevent the Warp SPREADING"
Here is that scene On Panel,
Satynyne talking about the Chaos Wave or as the Official Bio puts it,
the Scarlet Witch's Reality Warp:
"Your Dimension is a Cancer, bringing Devastation to Branes ALL ALONG the SIDEREAL STRING ...
Sparing Yours condemns the REST"
hum
Meggan can stop the chaos wave all on her lonesome!!!!!! Wandas reailty warp did not hold and then she said no more mutants, all she did was take their power which caused it to manifest in another way. If all you need is a certain level of understanding to control one of the gems then why would a reality warper have any problems understanding a gem that mimics his powers no matter what the level is?
Meggan didn't stop the Chaos Wave, she slowed its progress by harnessing immense power, long enough for the others to seal the tear.
The Reality Gem is not as simple as the Space Gem or the Power Gem. It requires the other Gems to be used properly and to its power, and it requires knowledge to use it. No one has shown anything to imply that simply possessing the Gem, without any knowledge of how to use it or its purpose, would amplify Proteus' abilities to manipulate the aspects of reality that are matter and energy, when others possessed of the Gem without said knowledge and with such abilities have not shown such amplification afaik. Nor shown that in simply possessing the Gem, with no knowledge of how to use it, he would be protected from being unmade by his maker.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlLongshot. Stated thrice already. Once more for good measure. Longshot.
Whether they are local or universal, he has never been resisted has he?
On the topic of Earth-616 as opposed to Reality-616 the terms are interchangeable. All of Marvel's alternate realities are given a designate of Earth-###. Age of Apocalypse is Earth-295, Days of Future Past is Earth-811, Here Comes Tomorrow is Earth-15104 and House of M is designated Earth-58163. All are alternate realities.
