proteus w/reality gem vs house of m wanda

Started by Mr Master13 pages

Wanda was the CAUSE of the Chaos Wave, that Roma could Not Ascertain

Wanda was Generating the Chaos Wave.

Wanda Remade the 616 Reality

"She's starting to REMAKE Reality 616... again"

Wanda was Driving the Chaos Wave into other Realities, like when it hit OtherWorld

"it is the End ... of ALL that is ... of ALL that will Ever be"

THIS SAME Chaos Wave brought back Jaspers 616 from another Plane of Reality

THIS SAME Chaos Wave is referred to as "Scarlet Witch's Reality Warp" in the Official Handbook Of The Marvel Universe v5 2006.

In THREE separate Bios

1. "During the Scarlet Witch's 'House of M' Reality Warp, Jaspers Reformed alive merged with the Fury"

(excerpt from the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe)

2. "Mad Jim Jaspers has also returned, brought back to life by the Scarlet Witch's recent Reality Warp"

And as I presented above, it was the Chaos Wave that manifested Jaspers 616 from another Plane. (he was dead)

3. Wanda gave Layla the power to "Perceive Divergent Realities"

"Layla showed Cage glimpses of his life prior to the Scarlet Witch's Reality Warp"

Originally posted by Mr Master
Just nvrhadaclue, being himself.

Now prove that proteous couldn't put wanda in her right mind and she loses immediately. you can't. I have won this debate.

"We are witnessing a Trans-Temporal Tsunami, ORIGINATING from Earth 616

apparently there has been a Alteration of global proportions that has Breached the Walls of Causality"

there's a "Breach in the Walls of Causality"...

that was caused by a "global Alteration" ...

and there's a "Trans-Temporal Tsunami" going through the "Breach" into other Realities ...

The "Trans-Temporal Tsunami" is the Chaos Wave,

Now what's Causing that?

Roma has no idea what's CAUSING that, as she continues to say,

"the Localized Effects are so Severe, I am UNABLE to Ascertain the Cause"

Hence the OHOTMU 2006, telling us it was the "Scarlet Witch's Reality Warp"

The "Trans-Temporal Tsunami" is coming from the 616 Reality,

guess what's happening in the 616 Reality?

"Scarlet Witch's Reality Warp"

More conclusive PROOF that the Chaos Wave was Wanda's Power.

(from the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe 2006 Saturnyne bio)

"She (Saturnyne) was later present on Otherworld

when Dimension-616 was Engulfed in the Scarlet Witch's Reality Warp ...

Saturnyne showed little hesitation in suggesting destroying 616 to Prevent the Warp SPREADING"

Here is that scene On Panel,

Satynyne talking about the Chaos Wave or as the Official Bio puts it,

the Scarlet Witch's Reality Warp:

"Your Dimension is a Cancer, bringing Devastation to Branes ALL ALONG the SIDEREAL STRING ... Sparing Yours condemns the REST"


"If the breach is not sealed, the Chaos Wave will continue to expand,
perhaps to the ASCENTION itself"

Roma threatens to erase the 616 UNIVERSE in 48 hours,
if Captain Britain and company can't seal the (Chaos Wave) breach:

Scarlet Witch's Reality Warp

HoM Wanda Aftershock

With the line "No More mutants",

Wanda managed to shift Reality causing cracks across "ALL" Realities.

Allowing the Shadow King to slip back into the 616 universe.

Balasco from his Realm sees Two siblings (Magneto & Wanda)

"Force ALL of Reality to CHANGE"

"She changed the World once huh?"

"Yes, ... but She Altered ALL of Reality"

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Wanda was sustaining and fueling the Chaos Waves's momentum with her own power subconsciously.

(which means without control)

BUT,

Wanda Remade Earth 616, this Warp cracked a hole in the Walls of Causality,
Wanda's Warp began to spread through the hole and across the 616 Universe,
it soon engulfed the 616 Universe and cracked countless Walls in-between UniverseS,
ultimately collapsing them.

The Second time Wanda altered Reality, she Warped the 616 Universe according to Beak.

The Third time (no more Mutants) Wanda Remade Reality, she Re-created the entire 616 Universe this time back to it's normalacy, with the small change of eliminating the power of 90% of all the Mutants.

Wanda is a Universal Power,

but she is also an unwitting Omniversal power,

because she can collpase the Omniverse by excersing her power at a Global level,
which was the scale of her First Warp.

"She's starting to REMAKE Reality 616 ... again"

"You might not even exist anymore in whatever New Reality takes its place"

"Who knows how she'll change Everything this time"

(from the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe 2006 Saturnyne bio)

"She (Saturnyne) was later present on Otherworld

when Dimension-616 was Engulfed in the Scarlet Witch's Reality Warp ...

Saturnyne showed little hesitation in suggesting destroying 616 to Prevent the Warp SPREADING"

Here is that scene On Panel,

Satynyne talking about the Chaos Wave or as the Official Bio puts it,

the Scarlet Witch's Reality Warp:


"Your Dimension is a Cancer, bringing Devastation to Branes ALL ALONG the SIDEREAL STRING ...

Sparing Yours condemns the REST"

swank

Once again Mr Master tries to bury my post with a ton of his reposts because he wants to keep it hidden from as many eyes as possible. People open your eyes!! 😱 lol

I've just posted scans of Heather from the Exiles using her multiversal scanner to look at 616 and she determines that Wanda warped JUST EARTH 616 and also that she only warped reality twice and both were GLOBAL changes.

First time was to bring HOM about in the first place. Second time was the no more mutants change.

Heres what he tried to hide:

Originally posted by Mr Master
Correct.

Wanda was sustaining and fueling the Chaos Waves's momentum with her own power subconsciously.

(which means without control)

Can you show me where its stated that Wanda was subconsciously sustaining and fuelling the waves momentum? No talk, just an on panel statement.

The Chaos Wave was leakover of Wandas reality warp through a hole she unknowingly made in the dimensional wall of 616. If Storm filled a dam to its capacity with water then went about her business. If during the process she unknowingly caused a crack in the dams wall and that water spilled out causing chaos to the surroundings, could i then turn around and credibly present as fact, the idea that Storm subconsiously sustained and fueled the momentum of the leaking water if there wasnt a single on panel statement or artistic depiction stating that point? 😕

Originally posted by Mr Master
BUT,

Wanda Remade Earth 616, this Warp cracked a hole in the Walls of Causality,
Wanda's Warp began to spread through the hole and across the 616 Universe,
it soon engulfed the 616 Universe and cracked countless Walls in-between UniverseS,
ultimately collapsing them.

So youre saying Wanda unkowingly cracked a hole in the side of the universe, which lead to the warp leaking out. The leaking warp then doubled back round and also spread out across the 616 universe? 😕

Ummm where did you get this from? On top of that the Chaos Wave was a trans temporal tsunami that went around eroding dimensional walls, causing the universe in the middle to collapse resulting in complete chaos and nonsense within. Where did we see any evidence of a manifestation of this type occurring in 616?

I would of thought that if the Chaos Wave also spread through 616 as you claim then the other heroes would have mentioned it in the main HOM title or any 616 title for that matter.

Going back to my Storm/Dam analogy, if there was a crack in the dam, why on Earth would the unleashed water be flowing back in the damn and across it?

Wanda created the HOM reality warp on Earth 616 as stated on panel. Thats what she warped to her imagination. The Chaos Wave was a different manifestation altogether and it most certainly did not spread over 616. The Chaos Wave was leakover. The leakover of Wandas warp resulted in a different manifestation to what Wanda had created within 616.

Originally posted by Mr Master
The Second time Wanda altered Reality, she Warped the 616 Universe according to Beak.

The Third time (no more Mutants) Wanda Remade Reality, she Re-created the entire 616 Universe this time back to it's normalacy, with the small change of eliminating the power of 90% of all the Mutants.

Rubbish. The time Beak was referring to WAS the "No More Mutants" time, NOT this imagined backwards leakage of Wandas reality warp 😂

Lets settle this once and for all people.

Exiles issue 71:

Heather talks about how her systems rebooted and she has figured out who warped “EARTH 616”

She goes into detail on the next page talking of how Wanda warped THE WORLD

In the above scan it talks of how Wanda is about to warp reality again (For the SECOND time according to Heathers readings from her system) You see Beak and Angel caught up in a flash of white light. End of issue.

Exiles issue 72:

The Intro page summarizes previous issues and talks of how Wanda warped EARTH 616 to create HOM and then talks of how at the end of the previous issue (where the previous scans are from) Wanda warped EARTH 616 again (so for the second time)

First page of Exiles 72, let’s see what changes occurred:

Hmmmm. In the SECOND and FINAL change it seems it was just the global “No More Mutants” change after all. What happened to the third mate?!!

Originally posted by Mr Master
Wanda is a Universal Power,

but she is also an unwitting Omniversal power,

because she can collpase the Omniverse by excersing her power at a Global level,
which was the scale of her First Warp.

Wanda isn’t a proven universal power. Your theory that Wandas reality warp leaked out of the dimensional hole causing the Chaos Wave and simultaneously leaked back into its origin dimension and across it ( 🤨 ) is ludicrous. It is a fantasy concoted so you can keep selling your deluded hierarchy to all who don’t analyse comics for themselves, all who don't know any better.

"She's starting to REMAKE Reality 616 ... again"

"You might not even exist anymore in whatever New Reality takes its place"

"Who knows how she'll change Everything this time"

(from the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe 2006 Saturnyne bio)

"She (Saturnyne) was later present on Otherworld

when Dimension-616 was Engulfed in the Scarlet Witch's Reality Warp ...

Saturnyne showed little hesitation in suggesting destroying 616 to Prevent the Warp SPREADING"

Here is that scene On Panel,

Satynyne talking about the Chaos Wave or as the Official Bio puts it,

the Scarlet Witch's Reality Warp:


"Your Dimension is a Cancer, bringing Devastation to Branes ALL ALONG the SIDEREAL STRING ...

Sparing Yours condemns the REST"

whistling

Same old Mr Master getting owned again and again
Scans galore to cover up his ownedge,simple smiles and just a one word wonder-gibberish

Wow i almost feel bad for you...almost

And yet none of that changes the fact that Scarlet Witchs only feat of power was a global one. 🙂

As far as we've been shown shes actually a global level reality warper. 🙂

Her amateur tamperings had major consequences, however given that none of them were fuelled and directed by her, that is all highly irrelevant in a debate about what the Scarlet Witch can dish out in a versus battle. So once again 👇

ROMA THE OMNIVERSAL GUARDIAN

"GLOBAL ALTERATION"

A trans temporal tsunami and then goes on to say APPARENTLY there was an alteration:

apparently
A adverb
1 obviously, evidently, manifestly, patently, apparently, plainly

http://www.wordreference.com/definition/apparently

i.e theres a trans temporal tsunami, so quite clearly there has been an alteration thats breached the dimensional walls.

Romas said she couldnt ascertain the cause of the global alteration. She said nothing about not knowing what caused the wave. She says the wave was clearly caused by the alteration breaching the dimensional walls.

Exiles issue 71:

Heather talks about how her systems rebooted and she has figured out who warped “EARTH 616”

She goes into detail on the next page talking of how Wanda warped THE WORLD

In the above scan it talks of how Wanda is about to warp reality again (For the SECOND time according to Heathers readings from her system) You see Beak and Angel caught up in a flash of white light. End of issue.

Exiles issue 72:

The Intro page summarizes previous issues and talks of how Wanda warped EARTH 616 to create HOM and then talks of how at the end of the previous issue (where the previous scans are from) Wanda warped EARTH 616 again (so for the second time)

First page of Exiles 72, let’s see what changes occurred:

Hmmmm. In the SECOND and FINAL change it seems it was just the global “No More Mutants” change after all. What happened to the third mate?!!

"She's starting to REMAKE Reality 616 ... again"

"You might not even exist anymore in whatever New Reality takes its place"

"Who knows how she'll change Everything this time"

(from the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe 2006 Saturnyne bio)

"She (Saturnyne) was later present on Otherworld

when Dimension-616 was Engulfed in the Scarlet Witch's Reality Warp ...

Saturnyne showed little hesitation in suggesting destroying 616 to Prevent the Warp SPREADING"

Here is that scene On Panel,

Satynyne talking about the Chaos Wave or as the Official Bio puts it,

the Scarlet Witch's Reality Warp:


"Your Dimension is a Cancer, bringing Devastation to Branes ALL ALONG the SIDEREAL STRING ...

Sparing Yours condemns the REST"

whistling

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Wanda Remade Earth 616, this Warp cracked a hole in the Walls of Causality,

Wanda's Warp began to spread through the hole and across the 616 Universe,

it soon engulfed the 616 Universe and cracked countless Walls in-between UniverseS,

ultimately collapsing them.

The Second time Wanda altered Reality, she Warped the 616 Universe according to Beak.

The Third time (no more Mutants) Wanda Remade Reality, she Re-created the entire 616 Universe this time back to it's normalacy, with the small change of eliminating the power of 90% of all the Mutants.

Wanda is a Universal Power,

but she is also an unwitting Omniversal power,

because she can collpase the Omniverse by excersing her power at a Global level,
which was the scale of her First Warp.

HoM Wanda Aftershock

With the line "No More mutants",

Wanda managed to shift Reality causing cracks across "ALL" Realities.

Allowing the Shadow King to slip back into the 616 universe.

Balasco from his Realm sees Two siblings (Magneto & Wanda)

"Force ALL of Reality to CHANGE"

"She changed the World once huh?"

"Yes, ... but She Altered ALL of Reality"

Desperate times mate 😂

Wanda hype machine taken down!!!!!!!! blowup

Originally posted by starlock
Same old Mr Master getting owned again and again
Scans galore to cover up his ownedge,simple smiles and just a one word wonder-gibberish

Wow i almost feel bad for you...almost

😆

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Desperate times mate 😂
😆

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Wanda hype machine taken down!!!!!!!! blowup

Another bookmark event, i must save this for sure 😎

Originally posted by starlock
Another bookmark event, i must save this for sure 😎

Me too. Straight to my "favourites" for future reference. 😂