proteus w/reality gem vs house of m wanda

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
On the topic of Earth-616 as opposed to Reality-616 the terms are interchangeable.

All of Marvel's alternate realities are given a designate of Earth-###.

Age of Apocalypse is Earth-295, Days of Future Past is Earth-811,

Here Comes Tomorrow is Earth-15104

and House of M is designated Earth-58163.

All are alternate realities.

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This is the difference between a True Debater and a clueless Sock.

If you read Marvel Comics you would know this.

KMC's ultimate bull shit artist KNOWS this,

but he won't tell you innocent band wagon Socks.

His mission is to demean Wanda's Feats no matter the cost to his already tarnished rep.

Why?

Cause Phoenix has NEVER affected the 616 Universe.

Phoenix has NEVER Remade/Re-created the 616 Reality.

Phoenix has NEVER Destroyed the 616 Reality.

Phoenix has NEVER had anything to do with the creation of the 616 Reality.

Originally posted by Mr Master
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This is the difference between a True Debater and a clueless Sock.

If you read Marvel Comics you would know this.

KMC's ultimate bull shit artist KNOWS this,

but he won't tell you innocent band wagon Socks.

His mission is to demean Wanda's Feats no matter the cost to his already tarnished rep.

Why?

Cause Phoenix has NEVER affected the 616 Universe.

Phoenix has NEVER Remade/Re-created the 616 Reality.

Phoenix has NEVER Destroyed the 616 Reality.

Phoenix has NEVER had anything to do with the creation of the 616 Reality.

I thought Phoenix was the reason there is even a 616 wanda. without the big bang there would be no wanda. And to be honest, didn't wanda get her power from being corrupted during the JLA avengers arc? Or did they retcon that?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I thought Phoenix was the reason there is even a 616 wanda.

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Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
without the big bang there would be no wanda.

Without the REAL Big Bang?

Sure.

If you've been sold the comedy that Phoenix spawned the Omniverse then ... 😂
we'll stop right here.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And to be honest, didn't wanda get her power from being corrupted during the JLA avengers arc? Or did they retcon that?

Wanda was beginning to go insane, this insanity increased her laten potential,
by HOM, she was insane but still funtioning, insane like the Joker but on a more serious tip.

In HOM she exploded with power,

it's true, Wanda's FIRST Warp was Global,

but that Global Warp SPREAD into the rest of the 616 Universe while at the same time it leaked into the Breach/Hole Wanda made in the Walls of Causality due to the Global Warp.

The poer of the Warp was such, that it was collapsing countless UniverseS, crashing them into each other by breaking the Walls that separate Realities.

Now the Next time she Remade Reality it was on a Universal scale,
hence: "She's about to Remake Reality 616 again" ...

Originally posted by xmarksthespot

On the topic of Earth-616 as opposed to Reality-616 the terms are interchangeable.

All of Marvel's alternate realities are given a designate of Earth-###.

Age of Apocalypse is Earth-295,

Days of Future Past is Earth-811,

Here Comes Tomorrow is Earth-15104

and House of M is designated Earth-58163.

All are alternate realities.

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Ok, it's time to furhter dispel this "Earth-616" theory concerning HOM, or any other Reality,

with PROOF ... Mr M doesn't do it any other way. swank

In Marvel,

other Realities or the Prime Reality itself (616)
are often referred to as (Earth-###) or (Reality-###)

These terms are interchangeable and I will prove that.

The bottom line is that they are ALL Realities/Universes.

2007 Bios:

Here we have Apocalypse Beast's bio:

(Talking bout AB's Universe)

"In at least one Future Reality (Earth-6034), by the year 12425 AD ... "

Here we have Captain America's bio:

(Talking about Cable's Universe)

"survive Thousands of years into Cable's Home Era of (Earth-4935)"

Here in Iron Maniac's bio:

(Talking about an Iron Man from an Alternate Universe)

"Mr Fantastic foiled Stark's plans by transporting him to Another Reality: Earth-616"

"Arriving on ... Earth-616's Latveria, Stark
(who did not realize he had been sent to Another Reality"😉

"to power a machine that could return Stark to Earth-5012 (another Universe/Reality)
....................................................................................
Still summarizing a Multiple Universal scale story with the terms ... "Earth-###."
....................................................................................
"Mr Fantastic could find a way
to send him back to Earth-5012 without damaging Earth-616"

Here in Shaper of Worlds bio:

(Talking about the shape of CCUs in the 616 Universe)

"always confine themselves in geometric solids;
in the Dimension of Earth-616 these were Cubes"

Here in Perun's bio: (This is the BIG ONE)

(Talking about Perun's Universe, which is located OUTSIDE the Multiverse)

This is a Universe in another Multiverse

"controlled by the Stranger into battling Quasar
and the heroes from Earth-148611 (the NEW Universe) before"

Here in Pip's bio: (This is another BIG ONE)

(Talking about Rune, from the Ultraverse) (which is OUTSIDE the Multiverse)

This is a Universe in another Multiverse

"the Watch were robbed of their respective Gems,
by the Earth-93060 (Ultraverse) vampire Rune"

There you have it,

no more banking on the only argument you had,

the whole "Earth-616" sign23 has been handled.

Heck UniverseS OUTSIDE the Multiverse are termed (Earth-###).

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Originally posted by xjustice69x
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Welcome to debating. Douche bag style.

Wow you guys are incredible these wars are still going on I see. I think the masters guy won the wanda debate, I'm convinced she played with the universe because of masters presentation, galacticstorm won the phoenix debate, I'm convinced the phoenix force is the universal big bang because of galacticstorms presentation.

toodleloo for now, well done both of you thumbup

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Welcome to debating. Douche bag style.

Welcome to insult debating..where your only point is to call people names because you have nothing...i can see you and Mr
Masters getting along fine.. insults and arrogance seem to be all you guys are worth

At least he is showing his confusion at Mr Master's attempt at debating.what is your excuse?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Welcome to debating. Douche bag style.

Hmmmm you could actually be talking about MR Master? in which case i owe you an apology..my first impresion was you were insulting xjusticex for puting a smiley of confusion..now i am not sure..so i am sorry for the remark..i dont like insults 🙁

But if you were insulting xjusticex then my original post stands 🙂

Even i have resorted to insults in the past when i was riled up...but i try to be polite..even to Mr Master

Originally posted by starlock
Masters getting along fine..

insults and arrogance seem to be all you guys are worth

I find it hilarious how FAKE some cats are.

Is this what you do?

How about contributing something of significance to the debate?

You said, "insults seem to be all you guys are worth"

but evidently that's ALL you DO!!! 😂

I Post, you disagree, I own, you insult ... that's the basic equation here.

You like to accuse others and myself of insulting members,
but YOU were the one that created this anomosity between us.

So you can insult me, but I can't insult you? Is that it? 😬

8 MONTHS Ago was the FIRST time I ever heard of you,

that FIRST time you popped up,

you BEGAN the INSULTS ...
I had never acknowledged you until you began your career as a KMC Sock!

You joined KMC on October 2, 2006

by November 21, 2006 you already INSULTING me for NO reason,
because I NEVER noticed your name until YOU INSULTED me.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/430557_3-dark-phoenix-vs-onslaught

8 MONTHS later ... and You're still Trolling after me

I INVITE EVERYONE to go to the Link provided,

go and witness a True SOCK at work,

(Nov. 21, of 06' and this guy was THEN and is STILL bashing my name) pathetic.

This is the FIRST ever Post addressed to me by this ... Starlock!

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/430557_3-dark-phoenix-vs-onslaught

Originally posted by starlock
Mr Master what a joke you are i have been on this site for over a month or so

and everybody i have a conversation with laughs at you heheh

you really think your flunkies think you know better than marvel?

ive seen in other threads where you are called out for misrepresenting the scans you post

and you disappear with your tail between your legs,

you act like a bully, in Brooklyn New York your called a punk

INSULTS!!!

Don't be such a hypocrite,

you started this ill behaviour, be a man and apologize for starting this war,
then perhaps we can start fresh again, otherwise, this is a dead end.

Calling you a Sock is not an insult btw.

your actions are what label you a Sock.

Originally posted by Mr Master
I find it hilarious how FAKE some cats are.

Is this what you do?

How about contributing something of significance to the debate?

You said, "insults seem to be all you guys are worth"

but evidently that's ALL you DO!!! 😂

I Post, you disagree, I own, you insult ... that's the basic equation here.

[B]You like to accuse others and myself of insulting members,
but YOU were the one that created this anomosity between us.

So you can insult me, but I can't insult you? Is that it? 😬

8 MONTHS Ago was the FIRST time I ever heard of you,

that FIRST time you popped up,

you BEGAN the INSULTS ...
I had never acknowledged you until you began your career as a KMC Sock!

You joined KMC on October 2, 2006

by November 21, 2006 you already INSULTING me for NO reason,
because I NEVER noticed your name until YOU INSULTED me.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/430557_3-dark-phoenix-vs-onslaught

8 MONTHS later ... and You're still Trolling after me

I INVITE EVERYONE to go to the Link provided,

go and witness a True SOCK at work,

(Nov. 21, of 06' and this guy was THEN and is STILL bashing my name) pathetic.

This is the FIRST ever Post addressed to me by this ... Starlock!

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/430557_3-dark-phoenix-vs-onslaught

INSULTS!!!

Don't be such a hypocrite,

you started this ill behaviour, be a man and apologize for starting this war,
then perhaps we can start fresh again, otherwise, this is a dead end.

Calling you a Sock is not an insult btw.

your actions are what label you a Sock. [/B]

I dont' recall any times that you have convinced me that you have owned anyone. I am the one who would say whether someone owns someone or not, becuz I don't throw the term around lightly. You use it every other post to give your self a pat on the back.

Originally posted by Mr Master
I find it hilarious how FAKE some cats are.

Is this what you do?

How about contributing something of significance to the debate?

You said, "insults seem to be all you guys are worth"

but evidently that's ALL you DO!!! 😂

I Post, you disagree, I own, you insult ... that's the basic equation here.

You like to accuse others and myself of insulting members,
but YOU were the one that created this anomosity between us.

So you can insult me, but I can't insult you? Is that it? 😬

8 MONTHS Ago was the FIRST time I ever heard of you,

that FIRST time you popped up,

you BEGAN the INSULTS ...
I had never acknowledged you until you began your career as a KMC Sock!

You joined KMC on October 2, 2006

by November 21, 2006 you already INSULTING me for NO reason,
because I NEVER noticed your name until YOU INSULTED me.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/430557_3-dark-phoenix-vs-onslaught

8 MONTHS later ... and You're [B]still Trolling after me

I INVITE EVERYONE to go to the Link provided,

go and witness a True SOCK at work,

(Nov. 21, of 06' and this guy was THEN and is STILL bashing my name) pathetic.

That's when I first noticed he was IN Love with me. 😘

This is the FIRST ever Post addressed to me by this ... Starlock!

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/430557_3-dark-phoenix-vs-onslaught

Don't be such a hypocrite,

you started this ill behaviour, be a man and apologize for starting this war,
then perhaps we can start fresh again, otherwise, this is a dead end. [/B]

All you are doing is showing your faults..in those links it is you who are lying...you have admited to not reading the comic about Onslaught and Phoenix in that thread

It is you who like to use words describing your anatomy..it is you who like to use foul languasge when you are in the mood..describing your bodily fluids bieng swallowed..disgusting

Let us not forget your as you call them mistakes..which happen all to frequent i.e onslaught and phoenix...quasar and cosmic awareness..leaving words out of your sentences...putting your words over scans and misleading people all the time....

i sent you a PM and we squashed things..then i disagree with your view politley in a M-body discussion and you attack me with your foul language...

i post in numerous threads .. try and find insults by me that use foul language hehe

yet the only threads you post in concern your heiarchy and the phoenix...you have even spammed respect threads....give it up allready,If you were to stop insulting and state your opinon only i would never have a problem with you..but your arrogance is in your way

I do appologize for insulting anybody..but i have never used such foul language as you have...ever

BTW seriously..what is a sock

I know i have only one account..maybe i dont know what one is seriously

Utter rubbish and you know it. The game is up.

Xmarkspots comments are totally true. Earth 616 and reality 616 as references are interchangable, unless given context they can mean either the planet or the entire universe. Unfortunately for you, Heather sets the context by stating that it was a WORLD Wanda warped.

Roma said the HOM reality was a global transfromation.

The Eye Of Agamotto scanned across the multiverse and said that ALL of Wandas transformations were global in scale.

You can post the same scans over and over again, but none of them state the point you are trying to make conclusively. Mine do. Theres your problem. 🙁

Come up with the goods or give it a rest kid 😂

Major consequences following on from Wandas warps do not make Wandas warps any greater than global. I could shout in the Alps and that small exertion can consequentially level a surrounding city via an avalanche.

The Chaos Wave being called Wandas warp is true, because it is! Wanda was responsible for it, however she never directly created it, she never powered it and directed it. She just set events in place which caused it. However she was responsible for it, it was her warp.

Thats all that really needs to be said on the matter.

Heather with her multiversal scanners says the HOM reality was global.

On panel the only changes shown were Wanda bringing about HOM and then Wandas "NO More mutants Change"

No imagined, agenda backing universal third change mentioned or depicted.

The Eye Of Agamotto says ALL of Wandas changes were global.

It really is over. 🙂

Lets see if we can avoid the ambiguous references, the meaningless scans and actually receive some on panel statements actually stating that Wanda warped the entire universe of 616, even though such an event was never depicted on panel, even though her intentions were just to make a peaceful world for mutants.

Cant wait for this 😂

Originally posted by starlock
yet the only threads you post in concern your heiarchy and the phoenix...

dontgetit

Originally posted by starlock
you have even spammed respect threads....give it up allready,

This is bull shit

I had a serious debate with BS in his Phoenix thread, one page, I even gave Jean credit on holding Reality 15104 in her hands, so this is what I'm talking about, you talking out your ass.

You should pay attention to your idol,

the bastard is Spamming my thread constantly, do I go over to that Phoenix thread for revenge? No. Why? Cause no one cares about that thread or what's in it.

Originally posted by starlock
If you were to stop insulting and state your opinon only i would never have a problem with you..

I do.

Originally posted by starlock
but your arrogance is in your way

If you don't like your actions back firing on you,
perhaps you shouldn't commit them. 😬

My beef is with the same THREE individuals,

BS, Clueless and yourself.

BS, because he BSs.

Clueless, flat out posted that he hates me a while back.

Yourself, Nov. 21, 2006 ... Insulted me for no reason, (and still doing it) 🤨

you interrupted a War taking place between BS and myself,
you thought I was insulting him, but this shit goes way back.

Originally posted by starlock
I do appologize for insulting anybody..

That's a start. 🙂

Originally posted by starlock
but i have never used such foul language as you have...ever

You bring out the beast dude.

I can't punch you in your face from here,
so all I can do is get nasty to vent.

I wish it wasn't like that,

but Clueless is always trashing everyone,
and yourself, you're always trashing me ... so ...

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I dont' recall any times that you have convinced me that you have owned anyone. I am the one who would say whether someone owns someone or not, becuz I don't throw the term around lightly. You use it every other post to give your self a pat on the back.

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I don't remember addressing you.

Perhaps you should mind your business.

Originally posted by starlock
BTW seriously..what is a sock

I know i have only one account..maybe i dont know what one is seriously

A Sock has a few definitions.

When someone follows a member around just to disagree with them
and try to make them look bad, that's a Sock.

Cheering for an opponent even though everyone knows he loses that particular fight, is Sockish.

Constantly attacking the same person, even without provocation, is a Sock's duty.

There's three examples that apply.

Originally posted by Mr Master
dontgetit

This is bull shit

I had a serious debate with BS in his Phoenix thread, one page, I even gave Jean credit on holding Reality 15104 in her hands, so this is what I'm talking about, you talking out your ass.

You should pay attention to your idol,

the bastard is Spamming my thread constantly, do I go over to that Phoenix thread for revenge? No. Why? Cause no one cares about that thread or what's in it.

I do.

If you don't like your actions back firing on you,
perhaps you shouldn't commit them. 😬

My beef is with the same THREE individuals,

BS, Clueless and yourself.

BS, because he BSs.

Clueless, flat out posted that he hates me a while back.

Yourself, Nov. 21, 2006 ... Insulted me for no reason,

you interrupted a War taking place between BS and myself,
you thought I was insulting him, but this shit goes way back.

That's a start. 🙂

You bring out the beast dude.

I can't punch you in your face from here,
so all I can do is get nasty to vent.

I wish it wasn't like that,

but Clueless is always trashing everyone,
and yourself, you're always trashing me ... so ...

Seriously...i was watching the site in the shadows before i posted my first response to you,i had seen you tell posters that you would follow them everywhere and they were your dogs...watching your..as you put it mistakes,and using foul language..etc etc etc ,my first post to you was called for and needed to be done..we should police our selves..i wont wait for a mod

I have had problems with nvr and had pms with him, i did not like the use of his language...children are reading these threads,some are sitting on their fathers lap and others are secretly coming here also,not to mention the kids who's ages are right in between having their own computer's of their own

Respect threads are the only place i knew to be off limits..having a thread in the comic book section is not off limits to arguing/debating..thats how i see it..if you notice i have never been in your thread about your heirarchy.because it does not interest me..but i have been in debates in that thread and thought its ok