Thor Discussion

Originally posted by Badabing

Okay, now that I've got that out of the way let's take a look at the latest Thor/Hulk fight. Thor had Hulk down, beaten and then did what most heroes do...He started talking! Seriously, telling Hulk to "yield" and "the better man has won"?

Fact is Thor showed mercy and it came back and bit him. If Thor doesn't start his "hero dialogue" then the fight looks a lot different. Aside from Rage's hypothetical, dream sequence, alternate reality, clouded memory, mumbo jumbo reasoning, it's plain CIS that happens to most heroes. See Superman. Sorry Rage. biscuits

And this all coming from me, a known Hulk fan.

Very true...

Nah, Thor's just a little ***** these days.

still the above assessment is true...

Originally posted by Badabing
Well, I'm gonna pick on Rage. BTW, he started it! sneer

So, the artist went out of his way to show us something that didn't happen and the writer went out of his way to write something which didn't happen. To be clear, we're to disregard the art showing Thor losing and disregard the writer's dialogue where the guy asking for Bruce's autograph says "...but you won in the end."? And this extraordinary assumption is based on a caption box saying "Yeah, right..."?

I guess the caption box which says "Yeah, right..." wasn't a direct reference to the previous caption box which says "...I definitely won't be bothering you again."

I mean it makes much more sense to think the "yeah, right" meant something other than this: ...I definitely won't be bothering you again. Yeah, right...

mmm

mhmm

YEAH RIGHT! durlaugh

biscuits

Okay, now that I've got that out of the way let's take a look at the latest Thor/Hulk fight. Thor had Hulk down, beaten and then did what most heroes do...He started talking! Seriously, telling Hulk to "yield" and "the better man has won"?

Fact is Thor showed mercy and it came back and bit him. If Thor doesn't start his "hero dialogue" then the fight looks a lot different. Aside from Rage's hypothetical, dream sequence, alternate reality, clouded memory, mumbo jumbo reasoning, it's plain CIS that happens to most heroes. See Superman. Sorry Rage. biscuits

And this all coming from me, a known Hulk fan.

👇

Originally posted by Badabing
Well, I'm gonna pick on Rage. BTW, he started it! sneer

Well you asked for it.

Originally posted by Badabing
So, the artist went out of his way to show us something that didn't happen

The writer stated in a post on CBR that Thor was not intended to be as damaged as we saw him. He blamed Thor's visual appearance on the artist. It's not the first time there's been some bad communication between the artist and writer. It's very uncommon but it's happened apparently.

Originally posted by Badabing
and the writer went out of his way to write something which didn't happen. To be clear, we're to disregard the art showing Thor losing and disregard the writer's dialogue where the guy asking for Bruce's autograph says "...but you won in the end."? And this extraordinary assumption is based on a caption box saying "Yeah, right..."?

I guess the caption box which says "Yeah, right..." wasn't a direct reference to the previous caption box which says "...I definitely won't be bothering you again."

I mean it makes much more sense to think the "yeah, right" meant something other than this: ...I definitely won't be bothering you again. Yeah, right...

mmm

mhmm

YEAH RIGHT! durlaugh

biscuits

And you think I didn't consider that maybe that was the possibility? Of course I did, but when the writer confirmed my view in this interview I stuck by it.

When it cuts back to Banner who is trying to remember what happened he says, "Yeah, right...and then I woke up." Meaning he doesn't think he's remembering the fight correctly.

Your acting as if I making this shit up and had you attempted to do a bit of research and instead of talking out of your ass, you'd know that I wasn't pulling this shit out of thin air.

Originally posted by Badabing
Okay, now that I've got that out of the way let's take a look at the latest Thor/Hulk fight. Thor had Hulk down, beaten and then did what most heroes do...He started talking! Seriously, telling Hulk to "yield" and "the better man has won"?

Fact is Thor showed mercy and it came back and bit him. If Thor doesn't start his "hero dialogue" then the fight looks a lot different. Aside from Rage's hypothetical, dream sequence, alternate reality, clouded memory, mumbo jumbo reasoning, it's plain CIS that happens to most heroes. See Superman. Sorry Rage. biscuits

And this all coming from me, a known Hulk fan.

Ha.

I could break this down but I won't. I'll leave you with some dignity.

Can someone post scans of this latest damn fight, so we can see what happened in there that makes it questionable? Whether this is a faulty memory by Banner, like Wolverine suddenly getting a memory from his Ultimate counterpart a few years ago...

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
And you think I didn't consider that maybe that was the possibility? Of course I did, but when the writer confirmed my view in this interview I stuck by it.

I could break this down but I won't. I'll leave you with some dignity.

It's all in good fun. durfist

Originally posted by Badabing
😂

It's all in good fun. durfist

Of course it is, but just watch what you say about Thor. You mess with him and you have to answer to me. sneer

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

Meh...this is nothing. If this is a fight that just happened, then that wasn't the real Thor but Ragnarok. If this was in the past, it's totally screwed around in Banner's mind because Hulk grabbed mjolnir and beat Thor with it, which is an impossibility.

Originally posted by roughrider
Hulk grabbed mjolnir and beat Thor with it, which is an impossibility.

Rulk did the same.

Rulk used a plot device though. A weak one but it was still a plot device.

Originally posted by Starscream M
Rulk did the same.

Rulk isn't Hulk, and used a loophole to do it in zero gravity. Hulk has never, ever, lifted mjolnir and used it.

Originally posted by roughrider
Rulk isn't Hulk, and used a loophole to do it in zero gravity. Hulk has never, ever, lifted mjolnir and used it.

I didn't even notice it was in his hand. I was looking at the bottom of the second page pretty hard picturing how they were swinging and saw the hammer was in his left hand so I just assumed it was in his left hand the whole time. And when he grabs Thor's fist it looks like he snatched the hammer out of his left hand.

If Hulk managed to grab mjolnir out of Thor's hand while they were tussling, the hammer would immediately fall out of his hand to the ground. Even Red Norvell's fake (but enchanted) mjolnir did that to Professor Hulk, pulling his hand flat down to the ground to Hulk's suprise.

Hulk didn't grab Mjolnir out of Thor's hand..Thor is still holding Mjolnir and Hulk just grab Thor's hand..so basically..he didn't lift Mjolnir..

Originally posted by Slaanesh
Hulk didn't grab Mjolnir out of Thor's hand..Thor is still holding Mjolnir and Hulk just grab Thor's hand..so basically..he didn't lift Mjolnir..

My previous Red Norvell example still applies. Once the hammer is out of Thor hand, it should fall straight to the ground. Only Odin, Bor, Beta Ray Bill or Captain America have shown the ability to lift and wield it. Hulk, never. So that's a false memory we see above, or it's the fake mjolnir wielded by the fake Thor, Ragnarok.

Hell, that's one detail the Hulk VS. animated DVD got right, and it was heavily skewed to favour Hulk's power.

But it didn't fall to the ground. Hulk was using the Dutch rudder technique.

Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis
But it didn't fall to the ground. Hulk was using the Dutch rudder technique.

I will repeat, slowly, in single syllables:

When - it - comes - out - of - Thor's - hand - it - falls - to - the - ground.
Hulk - can - not - lift - it - or - wield - it.
O - K?