Originally posted by Badabing
A week later and this is still an issue? 😂Thor lost this one fight. It's not like Mole Man beat him. durhulk
It's what happened in the fight that makes it implausible.
I'm just sick of how Marvel makes Thor job to Hulk - just like Hulk fans must be tired of how Wolverine gives him so much trouble.
Originally posted by roughriderA lot of readers are tired of high tier characters getting jobbed out and low tier characters getting stroked.
It's what happened in the fight that makes it implausible.I'm just sick of how Marvel makes Thor job to Hulk - just like Hulk fans must be tired of how Wolverine gives him so much trouble.
Originally posted by Badabing
A lot of readers are tired of high tier characters getting jobbed out and low tier characters getting stroked.
qft, especially when they get talked up in their comics as planet-wreckers and insane threats, then do something piddly against inferior opponents. It's one of the worst parts of being the type of hyper-aware comic fans that most on KMC are, myself included to some extent.
Originally posted by Digithe thing is writers don't write comic book characters to be debated in a vs forum...so to them, the portrayal of a character is much more fluid and they'll modify depending on the necessities of a storyline. ie a character will be as powerful or weak as the plot deems necessary.
qft, especially when they get talked up in their comics as planet-wreckers and insane threats, then do something piddly against inferior opponents. It's one of the worst parts of being the type of hyper-aware comic fans that most on KMC are, myself included to some extent.
Originally posted by roughrider
It's what happened in the fight that makes it implausible.I'm just sick of how Marvel makes Thor job to Hulk - just like Hulk fans must be tired of how Wolverine gives him so much trouble.
Thor jobs to everyone. We should be use to it by now. Though I must say, it's gotten old. I'd much rather he were portrayed how he was during the Golden Age of comics. As a higher tier character.
Originally posted by Starscream M
the thing is writers don't write comic book characters to be debated in a vs forum...so to them, the portrayal of a character is much more fluid and they'll modify depending on the necessities of a storyline. ie a character will be as powerful or weak as the plot deems necessary.
Yup, exactly.
Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis
It comes off way less fluid for me and way more inconsistent.
Yup, exactly.
Originally posted by DigiBatman or Cap taking down the JLA or Avengers with prep, I can handle. Batman or Cap holding their own with Superman or Thor, not so much.
qft, especially when they get talked up in their comics as planet-wreckers and insane threats, then do something piddly against inferior opponents. It's one of the worst parts of being the type of hyper-aware comic fans that most on KMC are, myself included to some extent.
Originally posted by Starscream MWhen Wolverine stabs Thanos and Batman makes DS bleed with a kick, I start having a problem with writers.
the thing is writers don't write comic book characters to be debated in a vs forum...so to them, the portrayal of a character is much more fluid and they'll modify depending on the necessities of a storyline. ie a character will be as powerful or weak as the plot deems necessary.
Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis👆
It comes off way less fluid for me and way more inconsistent.
lovely book...especially when the combined Atlas and Avengers couldn't even harm the Hulk or when Thor commented that he could not actually control his portals...meh
although yeah the only good feat by Thor these days was the doom destrtoyer one. but after all that's the only one involving CURRENT thor
Originally posted by Warlord
lovely book...especially when the combined Atlas and Avengers couldn't even harm the Hulk or when Thor commented that he could not actually control his portals...mehalthough yeah the only good feat by Thor these days was the doom destrtoyer one. but after all that's the only one involving CURRENT thor
Wait, Thor said he couldn't control his own portals?
...facepalm
Seriously, I don't get what the hell is going on at Marvel at times. Seems to me like they're more than content to make him a low/mid herald at best.
Originally posted by Badabing
Hulk & Thor from Avengers vs Atlas #3.
So Thor is more than capable of soloing Hulk in past fights on his own, but put him in a team fight and he's just fodder?
Marvel and their damn sliding scale with the Hulk - one day he can take on all the Avengers, the next day one little mutant with claws gives him all kinds of heck. 🙄
To keep this consistent with past showings, they should have the Surfer appear and take Hulk out, no sweat (as usual), then have Thor get pissed that Surfer deprived him of victory, and he makes Surfer see stars with Mjolnir. Then Thor can go back to getting his arse handed to him by Hulk.
I don't think this kind of stuff went on when Stan 'n' Jack were in charge.
People relax. That fight was absolutely fine. I even liked it. Honestly, Hercules could have done what Hulk did if he was drawn so ridiculously big (I swear at one point his arm was longer than Captain America's body.).
Hulk comes in out of the chronovirus while Thor is being consumed by it (He had literally just transformed from Blake and was then caught in it.) and we see him pop out with Thor in a choke. He gets him by surprise and holds him there for literally a single panel (The first large panel.). Thor was fine, the next panel he was conversing with Iron Man after he came in. Thor then teleports them to Norway and Hulk sucker punches him. He and Namora disappear then until the very end. Standard "One guy vs. More powerful team" rules. Hulk battles it out against Iron Man, Giant Man, and Bob. Thor gets him back in the end. He hurts him with a blow across the face and also restrains him with one arm for a panel by surprise.
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And Thor said he could not control his portals yet because they were plucked back from the past. Way, way in the past. They were plucked from like Avengers #8 after they had just fought Kang. That was like September 1964. I'm not sure whether or not Thor already mastered that technique by then but really, who cares?
This was actually a pretty good issue. I liked it. Jeff Parker is doing well even in Falls of the Hulk. If Hulk fans can admit that this doesn't show Hulk as being stronger than Thor then I don't see the problem.
