DC Comics: The Final Crisis!

Originally posted by Digi
Astute observation.

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Fair enough. Though I also saw Validus getting held in check last issue by some chick's hair (ala Medusa). I'm fairly sure Johns is simply writing to fit the storyline, power levels be damned. To an extent, I can empathize with a writer's need to do that, but if he has to nerf so many supposed team-wreckers, he could have easily just brought 1-2 less of them along for the story.

Current Validus isn't particularly strong though, is he? At least not compared to the PC levels.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Current Validus isn't particularly strong though, is he? At least not compared to the PC levels.

That said, there's no telling which Validus this actually is.

Originally posted by Vally Doosh
Post Zero Hour Validus is about normal Kryptonian/Daxamite level. IIRC, he was always portrayed equal to Mon-El.

That said, there's no telling which Validus this actually is.

Then he was definitely taken down for the story.

And nerfing characters because you're clueless as to how to write them is no excuse in my view. Not after Ostrander's Spectre series or Morrison's Big 7 JLA.

Originally posted by Vally Doosh
And nerfing characters because you're clueless as to how to write them is no excuse in my view. Not after Ostrander's Spectre series or Morrison's Big 7 JLA.

Alright, I'll admit Johns sometimes badly screws up in relative power levels.

QFT on the above. But he did do justice to Anti-Monitor and the Sin Corp. Except during the whole lethal force thing. Does SBP/SMP count or no?

Originally posted by Vally Doosh
And nerfing characters because you're clueless as to how to write them is no excuse in my view. Not after Ostrander's Spectre series or Morrison's Big 7 JLA.

I don't think it was because he was clueless as to how to write Validus, I think it was more because he needed to focus on other things.

Yeah chief, I'm not talking about Validus.

Though it wouldn't surpise me if GJ really was clueless about Validus.

Originally posted by Vally Doosh
Yeah chief, I'm not talking about Validus.

Though it wouldn't surpise me if GJ really was clueless about Validus.

Who's been getting such a major nerf then? D:

I agree about Johns generally not giving a sh*t about powerlevels and focusing mostly on the story.

Which isn't so bad,as a Martian Manhunter fan,I have very little concern for power consistency.

i have a question..

prime HV went straight through supes..but in the JLA vol 2..i see amozo HV hit supes and his body process that HV as a source of energy..

so..my question is..what the f**k was that about??

Primes heat vision is absurdly powerful would be the answer.

Originally posted by Slaanesh
i have a question..

prime HV went straight through supes..but in the JLA vol 2..i see amozo HV hit supes and his body process that HV as a source of energy..

so..my question is..what the f**k was that about??

Drama. Different writers.

Originally posted by Slaanesh
i have a question..

prime HV went straight through supes..but in the JLA vol 2..i see amozo HV hit supes and his body process that HV as a source of energy..

so..my question is..what the f**k was that about??

Phantom Zone Zod's heat vision also went straight through Superman's shoulder in "For tomorrow"

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Phantom Zone Zod's heat vision also went straight through Superman's shoulder in "For tomorrow"

He just has a hole in that shoulder.

have superman ever show too process HV as a source of energy other than in the JLA comic??i guess it depend on the writer huh..

chris kent was able to hurt zod in last son. at the very least, it seems that kryptonians hv can hurt each other...

Originally posted by Slaanesh
have superman ever show too process HV as a source of energy other than in the JLA comic??i guess it depend on the writer huh..

not that i can recall...

Is anyone else really noooooooot looking forward to the next crisis or is it just me lol.

Originally posted by GGS
Is anyone else really noooooooot looking forward to the next crisis or is it just me lol.

There won't be another crisis ever because this is the FINAL Crisis. Not ever again. No more crisis. Thank God.

...On the plus side, I'm looking forward to DC's Catastrophe On 52 Earths. 😱

Originally posted by Slaanesh
have superman ever show too process HV as a source of energy other than in the JLA comic??i guess it depend on the writer huh..

I had a thought...what if superman was able to process the HV because it was a copy of his heat vision?(since amazo was using a copy of supermans HV)...but to each other kryptonians have unique bio energy HV...so although they are resistant to heat....because it is processed from there own bodies...it can hurt them...that might be why we have not seen it before...and i could see alternate earth supermen having different bio energy HV......but a copied power might just work.