Pre-retcon Beyonder vs Pre-Retcon Marvel Brother
Pre-retcon Beyonder was beyond even the Living Tribunal. The Marvel Brother,as seen in the Marvel and DC crossover, was well beyond the LT in power. In fact, it was mentioned that the Marvel and DC Brothers did not even notice the power of the Tribunal.
Beyonder has more on panel feats...but in terms of power...who would be most likely to win this fight?
Re: Pre-retcon Beyonder vs Pre-Retcon Marvel Brother
Originally posted by charlemagne9746
Pre-retcon Beyonder was beyond even the Living Tribunal. The Marvel Brother,as seen in the Marvel and DC crossover, was well beyond the LT in power. In fact, it was mentioned that the Marvel and DC Brothers did not even notice the power of the Tribunal.Beyonder has more on panel feats...but in terms of power...who would be most likely to win this fight?
Marvel Brother
Hopefully, it will stay open
Originally posted by Mr Master
Beyonder FTW.The Brothers were momentarily owned by the LT and Spectre,
during which the Brothers were nearly obliterated by Spectre and the LT.
The LT didn't even dare try to mess with the Beyonder.
Mr. Master, I seem to remember an argument between you and Galan about whether or not the Brothers were actually everything in the Multiverse, and the Beyonder was more than the multiverse, or an infinate number of multiverses?
I admit that when it comes to these characters I am well out of my league.
Originally posted by Stupid Rookie
Mr. Master, I seem to remember an argument between you and Galan about whether or not the Brothers were actually everything in the Multiverse, and the Beyonder was more than the multiverse, or an infinate number of multiverses?
The problem with the Brothers is that they were shoved into the Marvel Cosmology
with no regards for continuity, Marvel and DC crossovers always make disasters,
just look at the JLA/Avengers = pathetic.
The Brothers were supposed to be the embodiments of DC and Marvel,
(since when, from where ... who?)
yet they were a single Multiverse each, (Marvel is an Omniverse)
this story took place in Marvel and DC,
yet NO Cosmics or divine beings existed except for the LT and Spectre,
these Brothers were "Supreme"
yet the LT and Spectre Warped the heck out of them by Merging them into One Universe,
this nearly literally obliterated the Brothers,
luckily Access helped the LT and Spectre separate them.
TOAA and I'm sure the Presence would NEVER get owned by anyone,
not even for a pico-second.
Those are the real Supreme Beings.
DC vs Marvel was such garbage,
that exactly 3 Months later they were retconned by Marvel into Two Megaverses,
that the LT manipulates in one hand.
Originally posted by Mr Master
The problem with the Brothers is that they were shoved into the Marvel Cosmology
with no regards for continuity, Marvel and DC crossovers always make disasters,just look at the JLA/Avengers = pathetic.
👆 people written out of character, only thing that was good about the crossover was the art from George Perez.
Brothers easiley it was stated that the Spectre and the Living Tribunal couldent do anything to stop them. As when they fought the Living Tribunal and Spectre were beneath their notecing.
They also represented the entire comapanies of Marvel and DC.
Also as supreme being that actually made the creation in the fist place, it's obvious that they represented both the supreme beings of DC and Marvel, none is above them.
Explanation, the Brothers thought that they fused.
"The Brothers are settiling the contest their own way..."
"...By comming together, fusing all they are so that they can co-exist as one unified being."
At this point they didn't have a idea of that they were forced together, but they actually wanted to fuse.
Even before they did both the Spectre and the Living Tribunal confirmed that there were nothing they could do to stop it.
"...To reality grasp it."
Spectre -- "What transpires here? The universe itself ripples with disturbance. I sense the workings of forces I have never before encountered, power which make me inconsequential by comparasion. Events are being set in motion..."
"...That not even the Spectre can stop"
Living Tribunal -- "The cosmic balance tilts..." "...And for the first time, I cannot right it. But what could exist that is mighty enough to thwart the will of the..." "Of the Living Tribunal"
As they confirmed they cannot stop these beings. Two beings of which powers dwarfed everything they've known in comperasion.
And both of them knew of the TOAA/Presence.
Yet they had never felt this kind of power.
And it was not the Living Tribunal and the Spectre's power which was used against the Brothers, it was the Brothers own power that were causing them to fuse, how? -- Access have tapped into their powers and gave that access to the two cosmic Guardians so that they could merge them so that they wouldent destroy all of Marvel/DC.
The so called "ownage" was the Brothers powers used against them, if you will you could say TOAA's/Presence's own power used against him.
Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Brothers easiley it was stated that the Spectre and the Living Tribunal couldent do anything to stop them. As when they fought the Living Tribunal and Spectre were beneath their notecing.They also represented the entire comapanies of Marvel and DC.
Also as supreme being that actually made the creation in the fist place, it's obvious that they represented both the supreme beings of DC and Marvel, none is above them.
The Brothers got owned momentarily by the LT and Spectre.
The LT and Spectre could never own TOAA and the Presence.
That's the typical DC/Marvel crossover garbage.
Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Explanation, the Brothers thought that they fused."The Brothers are settiling the contest their own way..."
"...By comming together, fusing all they are so that they can co-exist as one unified being."At this point they didn't have a idea of that they were forced together, but they actually wanted to fuse.
Where is it stated the Brothers "wanted to fuse?"
Cause I don't know if you know this but,
that's Access telling the story.
The same guy who in the next issue said he was WRONG!
That the merger was NOT the doing of the Brothers but of the LT and Spectre.
Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Even before they did both the Spectre and the Living Tribunal confirmed that there were nothing they could do to stop it."...To reality grasp it."
Spectre -- "What transpires here? The universe itself ripples with disturbance. I sense the workings of forces I have [b]never before
encountered, power which make me inconsequential by comparasion. Events are being set in motion..."
"...That not even the Spectre can stop"Living Tribunal -- "The cosmic balance tilts..." "...And for the first time, I cannot right it. But what could exist that is mighty enough to thwart the will of the..." "Of the Living Tribunal"
As they confirmed they cannot stop these beings. Two beings of which powers dwarfed everything they've known in comperasion.
And both of them knew of the TOAA/Presence.
Yet they had never felt this kind of power. [/B]
And this is why this just typical DC/Marvel crossover garbage.
Those scenes are depicted and then the Brothers get owned. 😆
Senseless I know.
Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
And it was not the Living Tribunal and the Spectre's power which was used against the Brothers, it was the Brothers own power that were causing them to fuse, how? -- Access have tapped into their powers and gave that access to the two cosmic Guardians so that they could merge them so that they wouldent destroy all of Marvel/DC.
Sorry T, but you're completely wrong on this one.
Access had absolutely nothing to do with the merger of the Brothers.
The LT and Spectre did that on their own.
Access did help the LT and Spectre separate the Brothers safely,
before both Brothers were obliterated.
