Anthropic Principle (or Anthropic Coincidences) What do you know about them?

Started by JesusIsAlive10 pages
Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS
I said that I have never seen you complement anyone that [b]disagreed with your position, he wasn’t saying anything for or against your post just what he personally thought. You said that it doesn’t matter if they agree with you or not but if they stay to the topic at hand and have a well thought-out reply and no I’ve never seen you complement anyone that had an opposing view. [/B]

Neither debbiejoe nor Burning Thought agreed with me nor disagreed with me--they simply followed my simple request in terms of answering the question without trying to be comical, sarcastic, witty, or deliberately obnoxious.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Neither debbiejoe nor Burning Thought agreed with me nor disagreed with me--they simply followed my simple request in terms of [B]answering the question without trying to be comical, sarcastic, witty, or deliberately obnoxious. [/B]
I have done so on many occasions and what I have said is that I have never seen you complement anyone that had an opposing view no matter how well thought-out and on topic it was and so far that still stands. I have and many others have responded to your numerous threads without sarcasm, humor or being obnoxious. If you can show me one time you have ever complemented anyone that disagreed with your view then I will stand corrected.

Also you think that I'm a closed minded person stuck in my belief, which you couldn't be farther from the truth. That is one of the reasons that I like to debate about religion and other topics is that I like to learn about other views and new things. I'm open to new concepts and idea but I also do not take them at face value and question the source and validity of that information. If someone could show me empirical evidence that God does exist I'm very open and would except that new information, but I have not see such evidence of his existence. However you are very closed minded on the subject and from what I see is the only reason that you are here is to convert people to your faith.

Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS
I have done so on many occasions and what I have said is that I have never seen you complement anyone that had an [b]opposing view no matter how well thought-out and on topic it was and so far that still stands. I have and many others have responded to your numerous threads without sarcasm, humor or being obnoxious. If you can show me one time you have ever complemented anyone that disagreed with your view then I will stand corrected.

Also you think that I'm a closed minded person stuck in my belief, which you couldn't be farther from the truth. That is one of the reasons that I like to debate about religion and other topics is that I like to learn about other views and new things. I'm open to new concepts and idea but I also do not take them at face value and question the source and validity of that information. If someone could show me empirical evidence that God does exist I'm very open and would except that new information, but I have not see such evidence of his existence. However you are very closed minded on the subject and from what I see is the only reason that you are here is to convert people to your faith. [/B]

I agree PITT_HAPPENS you have answered many of my posts in keeping with my simple requests.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
I agree PITT_HAPPENS you have answered many of my posts in keeping with my simple requests.
That still doesn't count and many times you have not returned the same favor to me as well. I have asked you question and most of the time all you do is post someone else's view, research or other out dated text. By doing this is doesn't show anything that you understand the question that was asked and is full of much useless information and doesn't answer the direct question that was asked of you or skip over much of the post and respond to only a portion of it.

Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS
The funny thing is that we know how to do it but just don't have the power, resources or raw material to do it. 😉

Simulating a neutron star 😉

http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/515765.stm

Originally posted by King Kandy

A neutron star in labaratory does not hold a candle to the sun (which by the way hangs on nothing). Go God!

Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS
That still doesn't count and many times you have not returned the same favor to me as well. I have asked you question and most of the time all you do is post someone else's view, research or other out dated text. By doing this is doesn't show anything that you understand the question that was asked and is full of much useless information and doesn't answer the direct question that was asked of you or skip over much of the post and respond to only a portion of it.

I use my time wisely and efficiently. It is a balancing act: I respond with many of my own thoughts and I defer to other's thoughts (especially if I cannot improve on them).

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
A neutron star in labaratory does not hold a candle to the sun (which by the way hangs on nothing). Go God!

Not the point, fool.

The point is that you said we cannot create a star. Then it was said that infact we CAN, were we to have enough resources at our disposal... And then you switched the topic.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Not the point, fool.

The point is that you said we cannot create a star. Then it was said that infact we CAN, were we to have enough resources at our disposal... And then you switched the topic.

We cannot create a star. I was simply going along with what you posted, but I was not being strict in terms of nitpicking with what you posted. Read carefully: man has not created a star with the intensity or capability of the sun in our solar system, nor have we hung it into space with the wisdom, skill, and precision of Almighty God. We definitely do not keep any star in space by our power and might.

Does that sound like switching the topic King Kandy?

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
I use my time wisely and efficiently. It is a balancing act: I respond with many of my own thoughts and I defer to other's thoughts (especially if I cannot improve on them).
You missed the point of what I said.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
We cannot create a star. I was simply going along with what you posted, but I was not being strict in terms of nitpicking with what you posted. Read carefully: [b]man has not created a star with the intensity or capability of the sun in our solar system, nor have we hung it into space with the wisdom, skill, and precision of Almighty God. We definitely do not keep any star in space by our power and might.

Does that sound like switching the topic King Kandy? [/B]

And what is a star? Yes we have created one on a smaller scale of what a star is and what it does and if we had the recourses, material and power we could indeed create a star. There is noting really to it by "hanging" it in space, it is called a geocentric orbit and we do it all the time with satellites. Creating the Earth or a planet would be harder than creating a star.

Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS
When I think of complex thing forming at random it always makes me think or crystals and especially snow flakes. You have the same material coming from the same place but they all form differently and in very complex and intricate patterns. No one designed these and they form this way naturally.

I don't see how the snow flake analogy refutes a designer.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
We cannot create a star. I was simply going along with what you posted, but I was not being strict in terms of nitpicking with what you posted. Read carefully: [b]man has not created a star with the intensity or capability of the sun in our solar system, nor have we hung it into space with the wisdom, skill, and precision of Almighty God. We definitely do not keep any star in space by our power and might.

Does that sound like switching the topic King Kandy? [/B]


Yeah, we don't have the power and resources... I agree with you there... However you were making it out to be an issue of knowledge.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
I remember using the Anthropic Principle to cling to agnosticism for a long time. Then it was just like, "Oh, right. That doesn't really justify anything. If the forces weren't as they are, we wouldn't be here to talk about it."

If you were using it to "cling" to agnosticism, then your beliefs mattered little from the beginning.

Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS
You missed the point of what I said. And what is a star? Yes we have created one on a smaller scale of what a star is and what it does and if we had the recourses, material and power we could indeed create a star. There is noting really to it by "hanging" it in space, it is called a geocentric orbit and we do it all the time with satellites. Creating the Earth or a planet would be harder than creating a star.

We have not created a star nor can we. How would you power your so-called star (you cannot use the sun's energy because that would be cheating)? Do you understand what I am asking? We cannot even create one and God has created billions (all powered by God).

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
We have not created a star nor can we. How would you power your so-called star (you cannot use the sun's energy because that would be cheating)? Do you understand what I am asking? We cannot even create one and God has created billions (all powered by God).

Cheating, WTF 😆

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Cheating, WTF 😆
😱 hug

Originally posted by King Kandy
Yeah, we don't have the power and resources... I agree with you there... However you were making it out to be an issue of knowledge.

It is an issue of knowledge. If we had the knowledge we would be able to locate the resources and put it all together.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
It is an issue of knowledge. If we had the knowledge we would be able to locate the resources and put it all together.

We gain knowledge, we do not have "Absolute Knowledge" at our disposal.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
We have not created a star nor can we. How would you power your so-called star (you cannot use the sun's energy because that would be cheating)? Do you understand what I am asking? We cannot even create one and God has created billions (all powered by God).
Do you understand what a star is? In simple terms it is a ball of gas which consists of most hydrogen and helium for the most part that is under a constant state of nuclear reaction. Size is not really a factor because even in terms of stars our sun is just a speck compared to others. A sun is self creating, if you gather enough mass the gravity of the mass will cause a nuclear reaction which will start the fireball to put it simply.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
It is an issue of knowledge. If we had the knowledge we would be able to locate the resources and put it all together.
Where are we going to get the "resources", we would need more mass than Jupiter to make a sun close to ours? We have the knowledge with is basic physics we don't have the resources to make it happen.