Anthropic Principle (or Anthropic Coincidences) What do you know about them?

Started by Shakyamunison10 pages
Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS
That is a pretty short time, and not even a day in our time. The minute the bird gets to the upper atmosphere it will die with the first grain of sand. 😉

😕 Do I have too read what JIA wrote to understand your post?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
😕 Do I have too read what JIA wrote to understand your post?
✅ or just the part I quoted, it was another one of JIA's bad analogies

Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS
✅ or just the part I quoted, it was another one of JIA's bad analogies

Just tell him that the saints in heaven will look down on the suffering in hell and because they are filled with love, they will ask god to forgive those in hell, and god will let everyone out. 😉

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Just tell him that the saints in heaven will look down on the suffering in hell and because they are filled with love, they will ask god to forgive those in hell, and god will let everyone out. 😉
Or the armies of Hell will march on Heaven because with JIA’s criteria to get in they will be out numbered like 1000 to 1 😈

Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS
Or the armies of Hell will march on Heaven because with JIA’s criteria to get in they will be out numbered like 1000 to 1 😈

If god refuses the saints request, then they will suffer like hell. If they don't care about the suffering in hell, then they are not filled with love and heaven is no different from hell. This is a Gnostic paradox that Christianity has never been able to answer.

Holy balls, too much blue wall of text.

Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS
Or the armies of Hell will march on Heaven because with JIA’s criteria to get in they will be out numbered like 1000 to 1 😈

But I don't have any criteria. Do you mean God's criteria?

Pitt, the flag on your eagle is improperly displayed. It offends me.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
But I don't have any criteria. Do you mean God's criteria?

What you THINK is your god's criteria.

Can't you explain why ID is not an anthropic principle?

Originally posted by Alliance
Pitt, the flag on your eagle is improperly displayed. It offends me.

What you THINK is your god's criteria.

Can't you explain why ID is not an anthropic principle?

Why do you ask me to explain that?

Because you make a thread complaining about how evolution is supposedly an anthropic principle, but then you suggest an ACTUAL anthropic principle to replace evolution.

Originally posted by Alliance
Because you make a thread complaining about how evolution is supposedly an anthropic principle, but then you suggest an ACTUAL anthropic principle to replace evolution.

Where did I say that evolution was an anthropic principle?

Originally posted by Alliance
Pitt, the flag on your eagle is improperly displayed. It offends me.
I didn't notice that before, and that is a pet peeve of mine 😠

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Where did I say that evolution was an anthropic principle?

http://www.straight-talk.net/evolution/anthropic.htm

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
http://www.straight-talk.net/evolution/anthropic.htm
I can't believe they used this quote to support them 😆

"I have deep faith that the principles of the universe will be both beautiful and simple." - Albert Einstein[63]

Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS
I can't believe they used this quote to support them 😆

"I have deep faith that the principles of the universe will be both beautiful and simple." - Albert Einstein[63]

I love using their own information against them. 😂

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I love using their own information against them. 😂
They must have seen the word Faith and got confused as to what he was trying to do 😆

Using this idea as proof of a divine creator is the worst I’ve ever heard, hell if I throw a baseball just a little to the left or to the right I won’t get a strike so there must be a God. 😱

Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS
I didn't notice that before, and that is a pet peeve of mine 😠

😄

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
http://www.straight-talk.net/evolution/anthropic.htm

http://www.straight-talk.net/evolution/anthropic.htm

In summary, scientists have discovered a long list of properties in physics that seem to be prerequisites for life. There is an elegant simplicity in the mathematical equations that express and unlock the laws of the cosmos. Not only are they fine tuned for life to exist, but they have a beautiful mathematical structure and a structure such we can discover that structure.[63]

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
prerequisites for life.

*life as we know it.

If you can't answer my questions and destroy your argument by youself, I'll continue to shoot holes in yours.

Besides, its wholly coincidental that life which formed in a framework, formed to suit that framework. 🙄

Its like saying that its design that we breathe O2 and there is some O2 in the air. No. First of all air isn't mostly O2. Secondly, if there was no O2, we would have never have the ability to be able to use it; we'd die.

You can't use somethign thats not there. But just because its there and we use it, does not mean its magically a logical necessity.

i.e. your argument fails.

In summary, scientists have discovered a long list of properties in physics that seem to be prerequisites for life. There is an elegant simplicity in the mathematical equations that express and unlock the laws of the cosmos. Not only are they fine tuned for life to exist, but they have a beautiful mathematical structure, and a structure such that we can discover that structure.
Chaotic inflation / Numbers game.

"Not only is the universe stranger than we imagine, it is stranger than we can imagine."
-- Sir Arthur Eddington

"God is a comedian playing to an audience too afraid to laugh."
-- Voltaire