Exar Kun & Count Dooku vs. Yoda - Lightsaber Duel

Divide and Conquer? When you are dealing with duelists like Dooku and Kun ,

Um, no. As I've proved in this topic there is not one single shred of evidence that suggest that Exar Kun is any better then Asajji Ventress in lightsaber dueling, and thats being generous, had Exar Kun been replaced by some one like Mace Windu, Anakin, Luke, Kas'im, or any other of the dueling greats (Not Kun) Yoda'd be crushed, however in this case your dealing with a padawan turned Sith Lord who has only been in 2 *real* duels in his life.

But just so where on the same page, lets readdress all the evidence toward Kun's dueling skills

-He's only been in two "real" duels, where he faced life or death situations.

-He's called a Master-swordsman, but then again so what, so is a plethora of other people including Ventress who got owned by Mace Windu. The Master-swordsman title was also given to the likes of Agen Kolar, Sasees Tinn, and Kit Fisto whom all if you recall were killed in 4 seconds by Palpatine, whom is equal with Yoda in all terms what does that translate to? Yoda shits on Master-swordsmen. The unsubstantiated *Master-swordsman* title is irrelevant when pit against people like Yoda or Dooku.

-He has a unique style/saber, big whoop, so did Ventress in Clone Wars vol. 1 but she got owned ,so did Maw and he got pissed on by Neophyte Kyle Katarn, so did Shado Vao and he couldn't beat Darth Talon.

-He stalemated Ulic which means zlich in comparison to Yoda.

So please tell me how a "duelist like Kun" stands next to Yoda?

And for your little joke of divide and get crushed to work that have assume that either Exar Kun or Dooku alone could beat Yoda which is not going to happen.

Divide and conquer is a strategy that only works when your opponent is scared. Somehow I can't imagine Exar Kun saying to himself, "Oh! Oh! Goodness gracious me! I've been separated from my Lord Tyrannus! What am I ever going to do?"

Wow, someone lacks SEVER knowledge of military/combat tactics, do you even understand what "Divide and Conquer" is, you separate and fight them one at a time they don't have to be physically in separate rooms just as long as both combatants aren't being engaged at the same time, which in this dueling situation would require Yoda to leap over(which he'd easily be able to do as he bounced around Sidious with ease) one of the others heads, and side step much like what Dooku was doing in the ROTS novel, Yoda who is better then the both would have no problem with that.

And Yoda is fast enough to dodge the attacks from these to together, as he moves faster then 3 Jedi Masters including Depa Billup whose bladework was on the level of Mace Windu's attacking at once. Also he's able to keep up with Sidious whom was called a "shadow" in the ROTS novel for his speed, the speed the allowed him to as I've said kill 3 "master swordsman" in seconds.

Its utterly ridicules to assume that two people who have ZERO knowledge of each other, one of the pair admittedly ONLY fights by himself and Exar Kun has the combat experience of only two life or death duels, would work together in perfect unison to attack Yoda, or even compliment each other, considering the fact that Dooku doesn't even know what style Kun uses.

Moreover, were not even taking into account BOTH Sith's HUGE ego's, first to assume the arrogant Exar Kun who knows nothing about Yoda would go all out against a tiny little green muppet at the start is also pretty dumb. Second, to assume that Dooku who is even more arrogant then Exar Kun would accept his help is also debatable, followed by the fact that Yoda is his arch nemesis why would he allow someone who has no attachment to Yoda to potentially slay him? Third, why in the hell would Kun accept Dooku's help? When he first heard there were others who claimed the Sith title what did he do? Go out and try to form an alliance with them? No. He tried to kill them no questions asked.

Shit Stain will try to have you believe that the two Sith Lords EXTREME1!!!11 power will be to much for Yoda but what he fails to mention is that all Exar Kun's EXTREME!111!! power was in the force as the narration in DLOTS, TSW and numerous sourcebooks state, and Dooku whose own EXTREMEE!!!1 power which was at its apex on Vjun was soundly bested by Yoda, doubled with the fact that Yoda has faced the EXTREMEME!111 power of the "most powerful Sith Lord ever." in Sidious, took it and damn near won. He is facing no problem in these two.

Besides, Makashi's precision would probably allow it to strategically weave through Jar'Kai, so Dooku and Kun might make a good team anyway.

To bad where using Double bladed saber Kun a style which he only had 6 months to develop and Dooku knows NOTHING about.

Originally posted by xxXAcStylesXxx
Um, no. As I've proved in this topic there is not one single shred of evidence that suggest that Exar Kun is any better then Asajji Ventress in lightsaber dueling, and thats being generous, had Exar Kun been replaced by some one like Mace Windu, Anakin, Luke, Kas'im, or any other of the dueling greats (Not Kun) Yoda'd be crushed, however in this case your dealing with a padawan turned Sith Lord who has only been in 2 *real* duels in his life.

-He's only been in two "real" duels, where he faced life or death situations.

-He's called a Master-swordsman, but then again so what, so is a plethora of other people including Ventress who got owned by Mace Windu. The Master-swordsman title was also given to the likes of Agen Kolar, Sasees Tinn, and Kit Fisto whom all if you recall were killed in 4 seconds by Palpatine, whom is equal with Yoda in all terms what does that translate to? Yoda shits on Master-swordsmen. The unsubstantiated *Master-swordsman* title is irrelevant when pit against people like Yoda or Dooku.

-He has a unique style/saber, big whoop, so did Ventress in Clone Wars vol. 1 but she got owned ,so did Maw and he got pissed on by Neophyte Kyle Katarn, so did Shado Vao and he couldn't beat Darth Talon.

So please tell me how a "duelist like Kun" stands next to Yoda?

And for your little joke of divide and get crushed to work that have assume that either Exar Kun or Dooku alone could beat Yoda which is not going to happen.

Wow, someone lacks SEVER knowledge of military/combat tactics, do you even understand what "Divide and Conquer" is, you separate and fight them one at a time they don't have to be physically in separate rooms just as long as both combatants aren't being engaged at the same time, which in this dueling situation would require Yoda to leap over(which he'd easily be able to do as he bounced around Sidious with ease) one of the others heads, and side step much like what Dooku was doing in the ROTS novel, Yoda who is better then the both would have no problem with that.

And Yoda is fast enough to dodge the attacks from these to together, as he moves faster then 3 Jedi Masters including Depa Billup whose bladework was on the level of Mace Windu's attacking at once. Also he's able to keep up with Sidious whom was called a "shadow" in the ROTS novel for his speed, the speed the allowed him to as I've said kill 3 "master swordsman" in seconds.

Its utterly ridicules to assume that two people who have ZERO knowledge of each other, one of the pair admittedly ONLY fights by himself and Exar Kun has the combat experience of only two life or death duels, would work together in perfect unison to attack Yoda, or even compliment each other, considering the fact that Dooku doesn't even know what style Kun uses.

Moreover, were not even taking into account BOTH Sith's HUGE ego's, first to assume the arrogant Exar Kun who knows nothing about Yoda would go all out against a tiny little green muppet at the start is also pretty dumb. Second, to assume that Dooku who is even more arrogant then Exar Kun would accept his help is also debatable, followed by the fact that Yoda is his arch nemesis why would he allow someone who has no attachment to Yoda to potentially slay him? Third, why in the hell would Kun accept Dooku's help? When he first heard there were others who claimed the Sith title what did he do? Go out and try to form an alliance with them? No. He tried to kill them no questions asked.

Shit Stain will try to have you believe that the two Sith Lords EXTREME1!!!11 power will be to much for Yoda but what he fails to mention is that all Exar Kun's EXTREME!111!! power was in the force as the narration in DLOTS, TSW and numerous sourcebooks state, and Dooku whose own EXTREMEE!!!1 power which was at its apex on Vjun was soundly bested by Yoda, doubled with the fact that Yoda has faced the EXTREMEME!111 power of the "most powerful Sith Lord ever." in Sidious, took it and damn near won. He is facing no problem in these two.

To bad where using Double bladed saber Kun a style which he only had 6 months to develop and Dooku knows NOTHING about. [/B]

What's your point? Dooku has seen double bladed sabers in his day. I think he can surmise how it works.. Too bad Styles

Again jackass, just because you say you have proven something doesn't make it so. Tell me, when's the last time we had a powerful force user that was anything but an exceptional lightsaber duelist?

For starters Bane, whom while impressive with a saber when pit against Kas'im and when Kas'm busted out shit he hadn't seen he got his shit pushed in.

Jacen Solo, while again good dueling and seemingly a master of all the mundane force powers when pit against Mara Jade he nearly gets killed.

Bastila, whom is powerful in the force has an very powerful command over it (as evident of her instantaneous Battle Meditation) was easily subdued by Malak, was beaten by Revan 5 times, while these characters are stronger then her theres little evidence to assume she was a beast in saber combat

Master Fay, who Obi Wan in a mission with several other Jedi Masters called the "most powerful of us" whom was strong enough to keep Obi Wan alive from killer wounds and break Ventress mind, she had little to no ability with a saber.

Kyp Durron, who is thrid in the NJO on the force power scale but with a saber...not really.

Jerec who was also strong in the force but even Neophyte Kyle Katarn beat him while he drew power from the Valley of the Jedi and Qu Rahn nearly beat him.

Darth Nihlius whose like saber skills were bested by the Exile, Visass and Mandalore.

Kreia very powerful in the force and knows many Sith powers yet blew with a saber, to the point that the Exile and Sion have diced off her hands.

The seers of the Covenant, all powerful force users who can see far into the future but when pit against their "guardian" Lucien Draay he beat them all at the same time in straight saber combat.

I can go on...

Secondly, what makes Kas'im better than Kun?

In saber ability? Um lets see the fact that he's mastered every style to its highest degree, devoted his life to saber combat, and was said to be possibly the greatest saber duelist ever.

Thirdly, Exar Kun's force potential and abilities were clear from the beginning, so what makes you think he couldn't have excelled at the pace of Anakin?

Because he's no Anakin, he's no literal son of the force and any thinking that he did excel like Anakin is wishful thinking and speculation on your part, doubled with the fact that he had about 2 years less then Anakin to further his skill.

But I guess Exar Kun is an uber powerful force user with average saber abilities,

Did I say they were average? No, your not average when your labled a Master swordsman, but however there seems to be a whole different level of mastery that people like Luke, Yoda, Sidious, Mace and Anakin have attained.

and wtfpwned everyone else.

You mean Crado, Syvlar and Vodo? Wow that accounts for the thousands and thousands in the Jedi Order at the time 🙄

Once again you've proven your constant ability to diminish a character, as the focal point of your argument.

Once again you've proven you have no clue what your talking about.

Gee, how many was Obiwan in before he beat Maul? Oh wait, zero?

Alot actually, including the numerous duels with the powerful Xantros, as a padawan he even killed anther while dueling. Wrong again.

I love the double standards here. So because others have been called master swordsmen, Kun is automatically below everyone else.

NO, I did not say that. I said there's no evidence that puts him on the level of people who have wiped their asses with master swordsmen, people like Anakin, Mace, Yoda and Sidious. That is what you fail to get.

Was Ventress on the level of Kun? Did she have the same raw force abilities? You know, force abilities do translate into saber combat..

As does actual skill, mastery, and combat experience. Ventress in no way has the raw power of Exar Kun but she does apparently have more skill with a blade as she comfortably took on three Jedi at once, held them off while smiling, pissed on Sora Bluq, managed to scar Anakin, and had her skills noted by Sidious himself.

Even Bane himself who had all the raw force power on his side could only compete with the mastery of Kas'im because he memorized ALL his moves and when Kas'im busted out something new he got shitted on.

Same reason why he, like Yoda, were above and beyond everyone in their age. But of course you're too incompetent to realize that the best argument you have is "it would be hard to compare the two" as opposed to "Yoda was in the PT era so he would WTFPWN Kun".[/ QUOTE]

Had I actually EVER said that you'd have a point, I can just as well through around the fan boy crap on you who seems to have a hard on for Exar Kun.

[QUOTE]Except good luck to Yoda dividing the two.

Oh yeah I guess Yoda is completely incapable of flipping over either head, and I guess he's just not faster then either of them.

Um Yoda being better than both translates into him being better than both combined? I know your math is off, but 2>1. Now tell me, what evidence is there that Yoda can separate two combatants of this magnitude? And even if he does(Unlikely), he's not going to be pwning anyone in 10-20 seconds, while the other combatant sits there with his hands in his pants..

Because Kun would die relatively quickly, so there goes your argument.

And when exactly did these master swordsmen get on the level of Kun and Dooku? None of those 3 have shown ANYTHING resembling saber gods..

Neither has Kun, that is why you fail.

And it's utterly ridiculous to assume that they wouldn't be able to adjust. Their styles don't require too much room. One guy on one side, other guy on the other.. How difficult does that sound?

If your going to assume that they will inclose on Yoda from different angles then you can't just assume Yoda WOULDN'T simply jump over ones head and then be fighting that foe individually, and if its Kun then he dies relatively quickly.

Oh right, their huge ego.. And yet Yoda's ego doesn't play a part in this..Ahhh the double standards.

Ahh Yoda's huge ego that you have no evidence of, yup that'll definitely be his un.doing 🙄 even though when he went to fight the most powerful Sith Lord ever he went with 'reverence' with 'gratitude' yup sure sounds like that arrogant ego was getting in the way.

And yet. Name me an uber powerful force user who was shit with a saber? Secondly, Dooku's abilities aren't on the level of Kun..

In the force, no. In sabers HELL YES.

What's your point? Dooku has seen double bladed sabers in his day. I think he can surmise how it works.. Too bad Styles

One like Kun's...one wielded like Kuns...nope.. Too bad Shit Stain.

Cry me a river homo. I'll refute your crap in a few hours..

Whatever Shit Stain, unlike you I have a life and can't be on the net all night, so whatever little garbage you spew will be pissed on tomorrow.

Sure dumbshit, please try to convince everyone that you have a life and aren't online all day, unlike me(supposedly). You make me giggle like giddy schoolgirl with your half assed retorts.

Originally posted by xxXAcStylesXxx
For starters Bane, whom while impressive with a saber when pit against Kas'im and when Kas'm busted out shit he hadn't seen he got his shit pushed in.

Jacen Solo, while again good dueling and seemingly a master of all the mundane force powers when pit against Mara Jade he nearly gets killed.

Bastila, whom is powerful in the force has an very powerful command over it (as evident of her instantaneous Battle Meditation) was easily subdued by Malak, was beaten by Revan 5 times, while these characters are stronger then her theres little evidence to assume she was a beast in saber combat

Master Fay, who Obi Wan in a mission with several other Jedi Masters called the "most powerful of us" whom was strong enough to keep Obi Wan alive from killer wounds and break Ventress mind, she had little to no ability with a saber.

Kyp Durron, who is thrid in the NJO on the force power scale but with a saber...not really.

Jerec who was also strong in the force but even Neophyte Kyle Katarn beat him while he drew power from the Valley of the Jedi and Qu Rahn nearly beat him.

Darth Nihlius whose like saber skills were bested by the Exile, Visass and Mandalore.

Kreia very powerful in the force and knows many Sith powers yet blew with a saber, to the point that the Exile and Sion have diced off her hands.

I can go on...

Because he's no Anakin, he's no literal son of the force and any thinking that he did excel like Anakin is wishful thinking and speculation on your part, doubled with the fact that he had about 2 years less then Anakin to further his skill.

You mean Crado, Syvlar and Vodo? Wow that accounts for the thousands and thousands in the Jedi Order at the time 🙄

Once again you've proven you have no clue what your talking about.

As does actual skill, mastery, and combat experience. Ventress in no way has the raw power of Exar Kun but she does apparently have more skill with a blade as she comfortably took on three Jedi at once, held them off while smiling, pissed on Sora Bluq, managed to scar Anakin, and had her skills noted by Sidious himself.

Even Bane himself who had all the raw force power on his side could only compete with the mastery of Kas'im because he memorized ALL his moves and when Kas'im busted out something new he got shitted on.

Oh yeah I guess Yoda is completely incapable of flipping over either head, and I guess he's just not faster then either of them.

Because Kun would die relatively quickly, so there goes your argument.

Neither has Kun, that is why you fail.

If your going to assume that they will inclose on Yoda from different angles then you can't just assume Yoda WOULDN'T simply jump over ones head and then be fighting that foe individually, and if its Kun then he dies relatively quickly.

Ahh Yoda's huge ego that you have no evidence of, yup that'll definitely be his un.doing 🙄 even though when he went to fight the most powerful Sith Lord ever he went with 'reverence' with 'gratitude' yup sure sounds like that arrogant ego was getting in the way.

One like Kun's...one wielded like Kuns...nope.. Too bad Shit Stain. [/B]

This wasn't even a challenge. GO back to the drawing board Molly.

Well...I belive, that back there, on Geonosis, Dooku had priority of taking the designes for the Death Star to his master Sidious. The priority was never destroying the Jedi or something...They were just on his way...
Why else would he be in a hangar anyway...

I think that he could fight Yoda more time, but he just couldn't risk the designes falling in to Jedi hands...

Sorry for my bad English and a lack of SW knowledge, and perhaps even overlooking some posts which maybe alredy stated that.

Tell me, when's the last time we had a powerful force user that was anything but an exceptional lightsaber duelist?

I just want to note that, next time some talk about Revan's lightsaber abilities, i will throw this to his (or her) face. If you disagree, discuss with Darth Sexy...

What exactly does that mean Kamhal?

I am using you own words. I think i was quite especific.

Ok I still don't know what that means. Revan's lightsaber abilities are unknown, period. Not strong, not weak, unknown.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Ok I still don't know what that means. Revan's lightsaber abilities are unknown, period. Not strong, not weak, unknown.

He looked confident enough to deal with the entire Jedi Strike Team single-handedly with just his Light Saber and was swinging it around with impressive speed and style which shows that he was damn good with it, as evident from a video in KOTOR.

However you are right that we need to know more about his Saber Combat skills to judge him properly in this case.

What i said was simple: you said that all the especially powerful jedi or sith were exceptional lightsaber duelists. I said that i would use this argument of yours to justify that Revan was good with his saber. As simple as this.

No, I never said that. I said find me someone who is powerful in the force who is NOT a good lightsaber duelist. With my line of reasoning, Revan must be good, because he was the best in the order of tens of thousands. However, I can't substantiate how good he is.

Uh yea, Kas'im had to bust out something Bane has never seen before, so thanks for proving my point in cases where unique style does matter. And Bane trained for what, a year or two and was able to hold his own against the greatest lightsaber duelist in the galaxy? I can't understand if you're arguing for me or against me.

Maybe there was something you didn't get about Bane training every night for about a year or two with Kas'im in hardcore lightsaber duels that left them both drenched in sweat. Aside from that as stated the ONLY reason Bane was able to keep up with Kas'im was because as the novel:

"Over the course of his training Bane had seen every possible sequence, series, move, and trick with the double bladed lightsaber, and he knew how to counter and nullify them all." - PoD pg 243

Well would you look at that once again the source material proves you wrong. Bane for all his extreme power in the dark side of the force (he filled a large library with lightning the first time he ever attempted it, he demolished a 20 story building with a force wave, he killed his father with no training with his rage alone while sleeping) he would have gotten WTFpwned by Kas'im had it not been for the previous advantage.

By your shitty ass logic, Obi Wan is on Anakins level cause they trained for hours upon hours together and knew each other inside and out.

That clearly answers the "Show me an uber force user who didn't have uber dueling skills" crap. Try again, shit stain.

Didn't Jacen Solo go apeshit on the Vong during the war?

Oh you mean AFTER he tapped into the living force. Try again Shit Stain.

Uh powerful in the force? You mean she had one technique under her belt, and the rest made her mediocre AT BEST? Great example Molly. And the BM isn't instantaneous.

Oh you mean like the Republic didn't start winning immediately after she choose to aid them, and where given a cut scene to show it. Try again, Shit Stain.

Beaten by Revan 5 times? Good lord, the concept that game play mechanics aren't canon, eludes you. YOu don't know how many times he beat her.

Cause maybe just maybe where given separate cutscenes showing Basitila rise from a defeat given to her by Revan. Try again, Shit Stain.

Wonderful evidence. "This person called this person".. Thank god you're not training to be a lawyer.

Whats funny is: your such a horrid debater but you are actually training to be a lawyer. God I feel bad for your whore mother all that cock sucking for nothing.

Tell me: how many dicks did she have to blow for you to get into the Texas U?

He's actually quite skilled with a saber, just not on the level of Luke.

Oh you mean like where he couldn't take down two Vong Warriors...

Um Jerec wasn't strong in the force , unless you are going to consider the Valley of the JEdi as his natural force abilities.

Proof of that? Considering he lead several powerful Dark Jedi, was hunted by High Inquisitor Tremayne for his power and the Emperor even valued his power. PLUS he gets the VotJ to boost him yet still gets beat by Neophyte Kyle Katarn. Try Again, Shit Stain

See above

Oh yeah Kreia who got her hand diced off by Sion in one slash then got the other diced off by the Exile, who displays no real dueling talent what so ever and in all her scenes in battle almost always goes with a force attack. And when she does use her saber she gets her hands diced off. That proof enough of her lack of skill. Try again, Shit Stain

Plus the Covenant examples still stand.

Please do, you've proven my case more.

Shit Stain response: Lawlz like you be in denialllzz!!11

Yet 6 months still made him the most powerful force user /saber duelist in the galaxy, so he was at the very least, very powerful.

There you go. And even still that only accounts for Dark Side users, as the quote is:

"Darkest power in the galaxy."

Don't you hate it when the source material proves you wrong.

BTW Shit Stain if your going to try and manipulate the sources at least be somewhat good at it like Nai.

And I rest my case.

What case? You have to have an argument that revolved around more then: "Nuh Uh!11!!!!"

Wait, because she took on 3 Jedi, and Kun never had to, she's suddenly better with a blade? OMg what a master debater..

No genius she has far more sources to back up her dueling ability then Kun does and in these forums where more sources regarding prowess > vague unsubstantiated quotes and fanboyish bullshit.

Right, just like Dooku and Kun are INCAPABLE of having cohesion...Right..

Ahhhh..Denial

Right, because he actually went into the fight with the most powerful sith lord, cocky as hell. I guess you missed the movie, but I'm not surprised that another obvious thing went over your head.

Oh and that would be evident by the fact that he thought he would win? OMG what COCKYNESSS!!!111! How dare he be confident in his abilities, Or what your other source be? Sidious calling him arrogant? LOL. The ROTS novel proves you wrong.

This wasn't even a challenge. GO back to the drawing board Molly.

I'll do that Shit Stain, when you form a coherent, valid response.

Is it always this way between Darth Sexy and Styles?

Yup.

Originally posted by xxXAcStylesXxx
Maybe there was something you didn't get about Bane training every night for about a year or two with Kas'im in hardcore lightsaber duels that left them both drenched in sweat. Aside from that as stated the ONLY reason Bane was able to keep up with Kas'im was because as the novel:

"Over the course of his training Bane had seen every possible sequence, series, move, and trick with the double bladed lightsaber, and he knew how to counter and nullify them all." - PoD pg 243

Well would you look at that once again the source material proves you wrong. Bane for all his extreme power in the dark side of the force (he filled a large library with lightning the first time he ever attempted it, he demolished a 20 story building with a force wave, he killed his father with no training with his rage alone while sleeping) he would have gotten WTFpwned by Kas'im had it not been for the previous advantage.

By your shitty ass logic, Obi Wan is on Anakins level cause they trained for hours upon hours together and knew each other inside and out.

That clearly answers the "Show me an uber force user who didn't have uber dueling skills" crap. Try again, shit stain.

Oh you mean like the Republic didn't start winning immediately after she choose to aid them, and where given a cut scene to show it. Try again, Shit Stain.

[quoteWhats funny is: your such a horrid debater but you are actually training to be a lawyer. God I feel bad for your whore mother all that cock sucking for nothing. [/quote]
See, now if a competent debater(or human being for that matter), like Escape or Advent called me a terrible debater, I'd take offensive and step up my game. But with you, I can make shit up in a foreign language and it would still be beyond anything you've come up with on this forum.

Tell me: how many dicks did she have to blow for you to get into the Texas U?

[quoteOh yeah Kreia who got her hand diced off by Sion in one slash then got the other diced off by the Exile, who displays no real dueling talent what so ever and in all her scenes in battle almost always goes with a force attack. And when she does use her saber she gets her hands diced off. That proof enough of her lack of skill. Try again, Shit Stain[/quote]
Kreia got her hand sliced off by Sion? Gee, she had two hands after that first level, and Sion bows to her on nearly every level. Great example dumbass.

"Darkest power in the galaxy."

Don't you hate it when the source material proves you wrong.

BTW Shit Stain if your going to try and manipulate the sources at least be somewhat good at it like Nai.

No genius she has far more sources to back up her dueling ability then Kun does and in these forums where more sources regarding prowess > vague unsubstantiated quotes and fanboyish bullshit.

Good lord, I haven't seen someone this dumb since Numan was lurking around here.. Way to go Molly..

Dooku held his own against Yoda.
Against Tyranus AND Kun, Yoda would have to hold HIS own...

It would be a close fight but at the end Yoda would die...
Kun isn't that weaker then Mace, and in Yoda and Jango vs. Dooku and Windu, there were clearly more votes for the team 2.