3 gods vs 6 top tiers.

Originally posted by UniOmni
To Superheroavndlasomesuch

Why would it be a bad thing to not have decisive battles?

Isn't the actual fun in the vs forum in the actual debating of the characters?

And for anyone who's read comics a day in the life, decisive battles don't exist!

Comics exist for the underdog appeal mostly.

It shouldn't be this hard to tell.

And to Nvr - BB has no feats of his own, yet you admit he's got battle feats?

What makes Superman a top tier to you then Nvr?

Because he can see across the universe?

Or his bilingual tongue?

BB has plenty of feats that make him a top tier, and his lack of low showings pushes him to the elite top tier (imo).

He's got enough to beat WW.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
So then basically, me not including PIS is part of your descision to try and come for me? Why don't you just rewrite our forum rules for us.

I'm not "coming for you". You are not worth that kind of effort.

But when I see you lying, I correct you. And when I see you debating in what I believe to be a dishonest manner, yeah, I disagree with you.

Whatever your forum rules might be, logic dictates a certain way of debating, and it isn't yours.

yeah but basically you exclude that showing from affecting your decision which is essentially PIS. the thing with DS is he's lost to Supes maybe 3-4 times but he's shown himself capable of higher feats so much more that it kinda shows how that isn't an accurate showing of his capabilites. I mean for instance imo Supes first real victory over DS was in OWAW but in the same story line DS owns Supes in 2 hits. which one affects my decision more? His victory but only because he's shown that level many times.

Originally posted by Desaad
I'm sorry, hypocrisy? I'm not sure you are using the term in the correct context, or else you could explain how me sticking with the way I've debated since I started debating is hypocritical?

Ok, hypocrisy was the wrong word. I apologize. 😮 But you're still wrong. SM vs. FL is part of forum rules for PIS. It clearly states that PIS cannot be used for debates.

no the thing is desaad is well knowledged and isnt biased in any way. now u want to call him a hypocrit becuz hes attacking darkseid to u in some way. he sees ds as what he is. he isnt biased towards him.

Originally posted by quanchi112
no the thing is desaad is well knowledged and isnt biased in any way. now u want to call him a hypocrit becuz hes attacking darkseid to u in some way. he sees ds as what he is. he isnt biased towards him.

I apologized for calling him a hypocrite. 😒 I make no such consideration for you.

Originally posted by Desaad
I'm not "coming for you". You are not worth that kind of effort.

But when I see you lying, I correct you. And when I see you debating in what I believe to be a dishonest manner, yeah, I disagree with you.

Whatever your forum rules might be, logic dictates a certain way of debating, and it isn't yours.

Originally posted by Superherovandal
yeah but basically you exclude that showing from affecting your decision which is essentially PIS. the thing with DS is he's lost to Supes maybe 3-4 times but he's shown himself capable of higher feats so much more that it kinda shows how that isn't an accurate showing of his capabilites. I mean for instance imo Supes first real victory over DS was in OWAW but in the same story line DS owns Supes in 2 hits. which one affects my decision more? His victory but only because he's shown that level many times.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I call whiskying IM away a few times as wins. Also beating the shit out of Highfather. He knocked the **** out of WW with one hit in Rock of ages. He pwned Firestorm and Orion with a wave. He WTF pwned Earth Angel Supergirl who was able to beat Despero then pwn the other bad gods.

When did he "beat the shit" out of Highfather?

He didn't knock WOnder Woman out with that one punch, just to be clear. Yeah, it was a good feat for him, but not a clean win.

Firestorm and Orion, yes.

When did he defeat Earth Angel Supergirl? And, of course, the Despero she faced wouldn't have been the team wrecker we saw in Virtue and Vice, more in line with the one who was scared stiff of Secret!

geeze can you guys just please lay off the insults its just a debate. nvr insults aren't allowed in a debate and it kinda lessens your side.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
I apologized for calling him a hypocrite. 😒 I make no such consideration for you.

Originally posted by Superherovandal
geeze can you guys just please lay off the insults its just a debate. nvr insults aren't allowed in a debate and it kinda lessens your side.

Originally posted by quanchi112
but supes wins have come in a row. ds may not be what he was once. supes may be growing in power to the writers. most recently supes has owned ds so it isnt piss. its called a win streak.

Originally posted by Desaad
When did he "beat the shit" out of Highfather?

He didn't knock WOnder Woman out with that one punch, just to be clear. Yeah, it was a good feat for him, but not a clean win.

Firestorm and Orion, yes.

When did he defeat Earth Angel Supergirl? And, of course, the Despero she faced wouldn't have been the team wrecker we saw in Virtue and Vice, more in line with the one who was scared stiff of Secret!

Originally posted by Superherovandal
it is pis imo when DS forgets half his powers or how to use the ones he does use properly.

Originally posted by Superherovandal
[B]yeah but basically you exclude that showing from affecting your decision which is essentially PIS.

No, I exclude it from SOLELY influencing my decision.

It still factors in, but the fact that he has a greater number of much higher showings precludes me from giving that one the weight of being his defining showing.

For instance, if I were comparing him to other heroes, I might say that they were about evenly matched, by Firelord does have that very low Spiderman showing bringing down his average, so I'd have to give the other hero the win, slight though it may be.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
When He shows that he is as strong and fast and skilled as her< i'd believe you. he hasn't. One lasso on his antenne and he's done. Or a super lasso not. At any rate, Superman is top tier cuz he does rediculous dumb shit every other day. I dont' agree with it, but he does it. I'm basically saying it's either feats or battles. But not both. The forum seems to choose when one is important and when not.

So the buck stops with Diana?

BB has thrown down with the top tiers in Marvel and looked like their peer, and has been consistently presented as such.

He fights Gladiator, he fights Hulk, he fights Thor he fights Namor and yet he's not top tier?

He wipes out Apoc( a classic midtier/low end top tier) in an alternate universe, but he's not top tier.

He takes on a sentient pocket universe(and was about to destroy it), but he's not top tier.

Hell, in the alternate universe, he's taken on Celestials!(Lost, but he went there).

And he's got the best win/loss ratio in Marvel next to Sentry.

Your hate knows no bounds.

Originally posted by Desaad
When did he defeat Earth Angel Supergirl? And, of course, the Despero she faced wouldn't have been the team wrecker we saw in Virtue and Vice, more in line with the one who was scared stiff of Secret!

desaad i have a question for u. do u feel in hunter and prey that the ds that fought doomsday was an avatar? or the real ds? im curious to get ur opinion on this matter.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
IN what you believe to be a dishonest manner. LMAO. Oh so now it's based on what you believe. And as i said, I'm so far above you in real life, I'd say you aren't worth me lying to. Trust me.

😱

I really don't know what to say to this.

How old are you?

If I say something that is incorrect, just correct me. others have done it. I have corrected others. Try it and try not to be condescending becuz you feel that you are some authority. I see nothign special. You can't even use good logic to place DS power lvl. Nuff said. Since you don't think i'm worth that kind of effort.

Feel better now that you've gotten that off your chest?

I don't care whether you "see anything special". I'm not here to impress you, or anyone else.

Do you realize that I have had to correct nearly every post of yours in which you post "factual" information? Doesn't that indicate something to you?

Just be honest. Then I won't have anything to "get on your case" about, and you won't have to deal with me again.

Fair?