Originally posted by Superherovandalso he can instill fear into him. give him a pyschological edge so he can spread it by word of mouth. ds would lie to manipulate.
unless you can prove that circumstance is a lie it stands. DS usually doesn't lie cause he doesn't have to. Why lie to an underling that he could own with one look?
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Big problem with this. Unlike Thor, Darkseid isn't an idiot. And he's shown that he is willing to throw honor to the wind if he absolutely has to. Or it suits his purposes. He 'likes' to be thought of as honorable, he isn't honorable per say.So basically, you assume Darkseid will just fight H2H and possibly lose, when it's easily within his power to win if he uses even 1/5 of his powers. This is horseshit. And about SBP surviving the OE, NO ****ING WAY. The fact that Superman survives or deflects it at all is massive PIS. And that alone, is proof of the massive jobber aura Superman has.
If Darkseid starts losing H2H, even assuming he chooses to fight that way in the first place, what's stopping him from destroying the armor, OEing SBP, matter-transmuting him, mindraping him, blasting him with red-sunlight, teleporting him to the end of the universe, stealing his powers, etc, etc, etc?
The fact that it's even being argued that Darkseid can lose if he goes all out is an joke. dur
And there have been to many instanes of Supes dealing with the OE to write them off anymore. Even Tron(who originally put the rules in place) said that once something happens a certain number of times, it no longer falls under the heading of PIS under forum rules.
Originally posted by quanchi112Not really. He believes every word that he says about how his world is a paradise. Why would lie about that kinda stuff to an underling? If the underling badmouthed him. he be destroyed a split second later no matter where on the planet he was.
so he can instill fear into him. give him a pyschological edge so he can spread it by word of mouth. ds would lie to manipulate.
Originally posted by starking
But it doesn't, help your point. Your trying to use an AVATARS showing, to determine Seid's physical abilities. The argument is pointless, really.
Originally posted by darthgooberDid he specify, how many times it doesn't count as pis? Three bad showings against Supes(maybe two actual), shouldn't contradict, a character's history.
Even Tron(who originally put the rules in place) said that once something happens a certain number of times, it no longer falls under the heading of PIS under forum rules.
Originally posted by quanchi112
u dont even know what is real and what isnt. u know nothing of ds. if u cant tell me what is real ds u cant tell me what is an avatar unless its stated in some book by someone other than mr proganada darkseid.
Originally posted by darthgooberBut it's still kinda...pointless though. It doesn't matter how his character, is portrayed. You did say Sbp, can defeat Ds in h2h right? But we can't use draw conclusions, off an avatar's performance.
How am I trying to determine his physical abilities based off of his avatar? I already told you that I'm just using it as a basis for his personality.
it is something he prefers not to do, however, as the avatar is so much weaker than his true form. it can even be beaten in battle, if the opponent is strong enough. this is ur proof. he says he prefers not to do it meaning he doesn do it that often. he says it meaning his true form can even be beaten in true form if his opponent is strong enough. hahahahahahahahah
Originally posted by starking
Did he specify, how many times it doesn't count as pis? Three bad showings against Supes(maybe two actual), shouldn't contradict, a character's history.
Originally posted by starking
But it's still kinda...pointless though. It doesn't matter how his character, is portrayed. You did say Sbp, can defeat Ds in h2h right? But we can't use draw conclusions, off an avatar's performance.