Originally posted by Creshosk
Which is why he has problems with people with skill in the comics. If he was as uber as the Spider-Man side thinks he is he'd never have problems with people with skill let alone repeat problems with those people.
every chracter got his bad days, you mean like spider-man got his ass beat up by daredevil? or black cat? or king pin Lol? OR SCORPION? or punisher, or kraven? and thats all in hand 2 hand fights ..... wolverine defeated martial artists like daredevil, shang chi , silver samurai, deadpool,mister x who is a telepath by the way and still wolverine was able to beat a man that new every move he was about to make.... every character got bad days but overall wolverine is one of the best fighters in marvel universe and his skills are at the level of super human abilities , he was able to beat wendigo and caliban with only his fists
Originally posted by Jack HarknessYou're calling people idiots and stating people have half a brain for thinking what's happened in comics has validity.. you're not exactly exempt from your own judgments here. 😐
Wow some great comebacks froma guy who sounds like a 7 year old.On ignore? Good it just shows how childish you are.
Originally posted by WEBS&CLAWSThe only problems is usually the morons think that it's childish. Which is ironic since they;re the ones trolling on a message board. I mean we're not supposed to feed the trolls right? So if you ignore them you can't respond to their childish bids for attention.
you are right just ignore that jack even his nick name tells you who he is ... just a jack ***
Originally posted by Jack Harkness
Yet your the one that swears to god Wolverine can beat everyone. I am tired of this convo, apart from your Logan obsession your an OK guy so I don't enjoy telling you facts that upset you. Please don't reply, a good argument is like a drug, you can't say no.
Listen I don't swear that Logan can beat EVERYONE, I just think he CAN be a majority of people in melee combat, because either, there's good reasoning to think that, or he's already done it.
You don't really tell me any facts that upset me, you haven't really stated any facts at all, you just place your judgment over the character his feats and his fans and for some reason you think that your opinion of those things takes precedence over how the character is presented.. all the while making insults.
You, need to practice what you preach.
Originally posted by jinzinNah. It's not like that @all. Where's the contradiction? Getting up & smiling are 2 different things. What'chu talkin' about Jinzin?
It doesn't convince me other anything other than the idea that Spiderman was trying to knock him out and that Spiderman THOUGHT it was working. Either way it's nothing more than him boasting himself up since it's also immediately contradicted afterwards "I'm hitting him hard enough to wreck cars, I can't get him to stop smiling" The contradiction has always bothered me to be honest.It's basicaly like Spiderman's saying, it's working...
then.
it's not working...
Originally posted by jinzinNah. KOed is KOed. Pretty much is just.....pretty much. That wasn't a fight IIRC, but I'd still like to see it again.
Keeled over on the ground going uhhhhnnnn or something he was pretty much out.
Originally posted by brainchild81
Nah. It's not like that @all. Where's the contradiction? Getting up & smiling are 2 different things. What'chu talkin' about Jinzin?
Nah. KOed is KOed. Pretty much is just.....pretty much. That wasn't a fight IIRC, but I'd still like to see it again.
at the most base level of what Spiderman said, he makes a positive statement about his attack, then it's immediately followed by a negative statement.
Spiderman's comment about I can't even get him to stop smiling resenates to me that he thought his attack was damn near useless...
Jinzin be honest, him taking no attacks was pure bull. You can't sit there and say it makes snese that he smiles and showed no damage from there when you have saw what punches he throws, holding back or not.
Also the speed thing is rubbish, he was in fear and didn't know what to do. Logan also has no real super speed like Spidey does.
Originally posted by Jack Harkness
Jinzin be honest, him taking no attacks was pure bull. You can't sit there and say it makes snese that he smiles and showed no damage from there when you have saw what punches he throws, holding back or not.
Originally posted by Jack Harkness
Also the speed thing is rubbish, he was in fear and didn't know what to do. Logan also has no real super speed like Spidey does.
Yes, he does. It's been stated a couple of times and he has loads of feats that put him well into Spidey league.
Originally posted by Jack Harkness
Not when Spidey has gone all out, when he is going 100 percent he is not near Peter.But how does it make sense?? You still ignore the fact that it makes no sense in taking them. The factor shouldn't do anything, nothing should.
The only thing Parker has on Logan is agility and thats only because of his strength, in terms of sheer speed you can't just blab off that Parkers so much faster that Wolverine's not near him.. prove it, because they've reproduced the exact same leagues of speed feats.
Adamantium skeleton and a healing factor that heals damage damn near as quickly as it's produced.. there's no reason he shouldn't.... what part of it doesn't make sense?
What part of it matters? it's a fictionalized media, you're just nitpicking what you don't like despite it being a comic FACT.
Spiderman having spider powers from radiation makes no sense, but I don't see you complaining about that..
Originally posted by jinzin
The only thing Parker has on Logan is agility and thats only because of his strength, in terms of sheer speed you can't just blab off that Parkers so much faster that Wolverine's not near him.. prove it, because they've reproduced the exact same leagues of speed feats.Adamantium skeleton and a healing factor that heals damage damn near as quickly as it's produced.. there's no reason he shouldn't.... what part of it doesn't make sense?
What part of it matters? it's a fictionalized media, you're just nitpicking what you don't like despite it being a comic FACT.Spiderman having spider powers from radiation makes no sense, but I don't see you complaining about that..
Him being a mutant doesn't make sense either, you are not understanding the difference.
Yet it is stated EVERYWHERE that they are not close, and the writers have him do stuff he shouldn't to appease the fans, which is wrong and stupid.
It is different, receiving blows can heal yes but it doesn't change the fact on how the body takes it. A blow to the head is a blow to the head, whether it can heal or not, the brain still took the punishment and he should be out straight away.
Originally posted by Jack HarknessWould you stop with the double standard already?
Him being a mutant doesn't make sense either, you are not understanding the difference.Yet it is stated EVERYWHERE that they are not close, and the writers have him do stuff he shouldn't to appease the fans, which is wrong and stupid.
It is different, receiving blows can heal yes but it doesn't change the fact on how the body takes it. A blow to the head is a blow to the head, whether it can heal or not, the brain still took the punishment and he should be out straight away.
Do you want me to go into explaining how cancer works? Or how the radiation should have simply killed the spider out right? If you're going to use real world anatomy of a normal human in the fight then be consistant about it. Wolverine's healing factor means that his anatomy is not that of a normal human. He has consistantly taken punches from Spider-Man. So why should he not be able to?
Seriously what's with the showing favor to one side and not the other on REASONING. Are you biased? Is that it?
Wolverine is to be held to different standards of reasoning and logic than the rest of the comicverse? Its always been a part of him that a fully healed and rested wolverine can take massive punishment in the form of concussive blows. From his first appearence. to him becoming a mutant and with the X-Men.. and so on. The only time he doesn't take haavy punches well is usually when he's already messed up and dealing with other things.