Originally posted by Badabing
I thought he was 300 lbs with the adamantium????
Originally posted by brainchild81
You thought right Then somebody writing it f*cked up. Wolvie weighs 300 w/the skeleton & 200 w/out. Another thing about the graveyard fight.... Why would Wolvie start off avoiding punches & then just stand there jinzin?
you think Chris Claremont's a **** up when it comes to Wolverine?
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For the GY fight, why did Spidey? It was just part of his strategy. After Spidey landed that first punch Wolverine probably realized how easy it was to take, it's not like he hasn't done this sort of thing before. Once when he was fighting an upgraded Lady Deathstrike he let her stab him in the heart because he knew that it would be faster for him to let her to that so he could be on his merry way, than for the two to slug it out all day.
There's a reason everyone thought that Logan weighed three hundred pounds with the skeleton.....
Because...well...that's what's been official for as long as I can remember. Unless, for some reason, that's been retconned to four hundred ninety-five pounds....
I dunno, I mean, everyone on the forum thought so. Marvel.com says so. Wiki agrees. Marvel Directory lists exactly the same information.
But, of course, they're all wrong and Jinzin's right. As usual.
Originally posted by Soljer
There's a reason everyone thought that Logan weighed three hundred pounds with the skeleton.....Because...well...that's what's been official for as long as I can remember. Unless, for some reason, that's been retconned to four hundred ninety-five pounds....
I dunno, I mean, everyone on the forum thought so. Marvel.com says so. Wiki agrees. Marvel Directory lists exactly the same information.
But, of course, they're all wrong and Jinzin's right. As usual.
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uh, I really don't get why you're being so harsh here, I'm just stating what was referenced in a comic book.
Like I said.. Somebody f*cked up.
Originally posted by jinzin'Cause he was the type of moron that was admittedly fighting "slow & stupid" & his dumbass was wearing himself out punching a guy with metal bones in the skull instead of the meaty parts, ballz, throat, eyes etc. Spidey has used gutshots b4. He KOed Kraven w/one saying "I just whumped you w/a whump that once staggered the /Hulk" seconds b4 Kravy passed out
Nope, he stated the skeleton to weigh 300. you think Chris Claremont's a **** up when it comes to Wolverine?
😐For the GY fight, why did Spidey?
Originally posted by jinzin😆 Did he say "Here it comes" that time too? Did he do that badass menacing "X pose" also?
It was just part of his strategy. After Spidey landed that first punch Wolverine probably realized how easy it was to take, it's not like he hasn't done this sort of thing before. Once when he was fighting an upgraded Lady Deathstrike he let her stab him in the heart because he knew that it would be faster for him to let her to that so he could be on his merry way, than for the two to slug it out all day.
Either CC fu*ked up or somebody else writing did. I'm quite sure you've also read in other places that the skeleton was 100lbs right?
Originally posted by brainchild81it a rhetorical question.. 😬
Like I said.. Somebody f*cked up.'Cause he was the type of moron that was admittedly fighting "slow & stupid" & his dumbass was wearing himself out punching a guy with metal bones in the skull instead of the meaty parts, ballz, throat, eyes etc. Spidey has used gutshots b4. He KOed Kraven w/one saying "I just whumped you w/a whump that once staggered the /Hulk" seconds b4 Kravy passed out
Originally posted by brainchild81
😆 Did he say "Here it comes" that time too? Did he do that badass menacing "X pose" also?
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I don't think I've ever argued that the first hit that Spiderman landed wasn't a genuine wallop. Spidey clearly tagged Wolvie there, and I have never argued that Wolverine can't be hit by Spiderman but since you want to pick all those other occasions apart when Wolverine looks good and cling onto the graveyard fight like grim death as some sort of proof that Wolverine can't touch Spidey I'm inclined to tell you why that's wrong and generally disengenuine proof to be using.
Again I said after the INITIAL HIT... that is after the first time Spidey hit Wolverine, Wolverine decided to switch up his gameplan, you ask me why and all I can give you is speculation, so I did. And now you're laughing at me cause you don't understand? Okay well here's what I think.
It's stupid to think that Spiderman can't be hit by Logan when he has been time after time.
It's stupid to think that there's ANY monumental speed gab between the two when everything Spiderman has done with his sheer speed (excluding agility induced feats) has been reproduced by Logan himself.
It's stupid to assume that because Spiderman holds back his punches that somehow equates to him holding back his agility, reflexes, and spider sense.
It's stupid to think that Wolverine can't contend with Spidey when Spidey HAS gone all out with Logan an Logan stalemated him while Logan has NEVER gone all out on Spidey.
It's reaching to think that Wolverine would say "here it comes" was anything BUT a reference to Spiderman's oncoming offensive when he was already on the offensive well before he said that.. yeah.. "here it comes...two minutes ago, when I forgot to say that before..".....😐
His guard is up, then it's down for no apparent reason, and he isn't even trying to claw his way to safety.
Spidey's hitting him too hard? It didn't seem to stop him from counter attacking Hulk.
Too fast? He was stationary hitting the same area over and over again. Logan was smiling at him, he wasn't helpless, but he certainly wasn't fighting back. Flailing his arms in front of him would have been enough to cause a break in the action.
Spiderman was also hammering away at him during the training fiasco, didn't stop logan from reacting then did it?
Spiderman has NOT beating Logan in a fight.
Spiderman HAS used webs on Logan, when Logan's had his claws out they HAVEN'T successfully held him.
Spiderman HAS gone all out on Logan, Logan has NEVER gone all out on Spiderman.
Logan HAS tagged Spiderman.
Logan HAS knocked SPiderman out.
Logan HAS taken everything Spiderman could dish out physically and shrugged it off like nothing happened.
Originally posted by brainchild81
Either CC fu*ked up or somebody else writing did. I'm quite sure you've also read in other places that the skeleton was 100lbs right?
I'm sorry but "other places" doesn't quite cut it for me.
Marvel directory? Psshhhhh they list Sabretooth's physical strength ABOVE friggin TIGER SHARKS, tiger sharks for god sakes, the guy's tossed around Hulk!
Wikipedia? the same wikipedia that said that African Elephant's population was growing en'masse?
When it comes to all things Wolverine, I'll take Byrne's, David's, or Claremonts writing to hold far more weight in knowing what they are talking about than "other places"
I can't believe you think Claremont's a **** up when it comes to writing Wolverine... OMFG.... 😂
1st off, chill the fawk out. It's not that serious. There are are lot worse things I can do than laugh. This ain't life & death stuff. We go way back so don't be so touchy. 2nd, Wolvie had the claws up when he said that stuff & he still had them out after he got tagged. He didn't put them away until Spidey stopped his crawler assualt. Spidey used the Spidey sense & went around his guard. I've seen quite a few fights where somebody gets tagged good & the arms fall to the side & stop working properly. 3rd Spidey had already tagged him & was still swinging @ him b4 the "here it comes statement" IIRC. By your logic, why didn't he say that immediately after the 1st connection? 4. He was trying to get up. He didn't because Spidey didn't let him. Wolvies "reaction" in the training fiasco was to go into the fetal position & scream "GOD THAT HURTS" wasn't it? That's what happens when Spidey goes for the body instead of going for the face. It hurts. Spidey ain't been KOed outside of a training fiasco & the only time he went all out he was also scared shitless & fighting "slow & stupid"(even though he didn't seem scared at all in a previous encounter IIRC). My "other places" question wasn't rhetorical. Please answer it & stop being so defensive for a sec. Have you seen it elsewhere? This is THE 1st time I've ever heard anything about the bones weighing 300lbs. I've heard it was 100 multiple times. I had believed this to be common knowledge about him. I'm not coming @ you for this so relax. I'm just saying CC or whoever got it wrong. Seriously man, it's 100lbs. I'll look for it in a comic. Where exactly did this CC 300lbs thing come from? What issue?
P.S. I didn't mention MD or wiki to begin with mane 😄
Originally posted by brainchild81
1st off, chill the fawk out. It's not that serious. There are are lot worse things I can do than laugh. This ain't life & death stuff. We go way back so don't be so touchy.
Originally posted by brainchild81
2nd, Wolvie had the claws up when he said that stuff & he still had them out after he got tagged. He didn't put them away until Spidey stopped his crawler assualt.
Proves nothing, do I really need to start rattling off the thousands of times he's had them out without any intention of using them? Like, seriously, if I do you know less about the character than I give you credit for.
Originally posted by brainchild81there was no around, it was a straight shot.
Spidey used the Spidey sense & went around his guard.
Originally posted by brainchild81
I've seen quite a few fights where somebody gets tagged good & the arms fall to the side & stop working properly.
Originally posted by brainchild81Because that's not when he decided to start letting spiderman hit him... 😐
3rd Spidey had already tagged him & was still swinging @ him b4 the "here it comes statement" IIRC. By your logic, why didn't he say that immediately after the 1st connection?
Originally posted by brainchild81says you which you can't prove one bit, he may have been trying to keep himself up but he wasn't trying to get up in the sense of getting Spiderman to stop hitting him which he could and WOULD have if that's what he was doing.
4. He was trying to get up.
Originally posted by brainchild81
He didn't because Spidey didn't let him. Wolvies "reaction" in the training fiasco was to go into the fetal position & scream "GOD THAT HURTS" wasn't it? That's what happens when Spidey goes for the body instead of going for the face. It hurts.
Originally posted by brainchild81
Spidey ain't been KOed outside of a training fiasco & the only time he went all out he was also scared shitless & fighting "slow & stupid"(even though he didn't seem scared at all in a previous encounter IIRC).
Yes he has, when Wolverine kicked him the nutsack.
And that was before he saw Wolverine go to claw city infront of his eyes.
Originally posted by brainchild81
My "other places" question wasn't rhetorical. Please answer it & stop being so defensive for a sec. Have you seen it elsewhere?
Originally posted by brainchild81
This is THE 1st time I've ever heard anything about the bones weighing 300lbs. I've heard it was 100 multiple times. I had believed this to be common knowledge about him. I'm not coming @ you for this so relax. I'm just saying CC or whoever got it wrong. Seriously man, it's 100lbs. I'll look for it in a comic. Where exactly did this CC 300lbs thing come from? What issue?P.S. I didn't mention MD or wiki to begin with mane 😄
X-men 6 or 7
Originally posted by jinzinYou say you aren't making this personal, but you obviously are taking it that way mane. I laugh @ shit I see on here all the time. You are right about not insulting me(never said or implied you did), but perhaps you are too easily insulted. If I've done anything out of line I apologize
Oh what the **** ever, I'm am a FAR cry from treating this like it's life or death, I haven't even made this personal; I mean did I even insult you in that post.
But, when two members on this forum who I've shared a lot of time with and had a variable amount of respect for , perhaps even consider friends to some extent treat me like I'm some sort of an annoyance or a joke, I'm gonna get offended, so don't tell me how I need to react to being offended.
Originally posted by jinzinI thought it was a hook. Somebody should post that shit again.
Proves nothing, do I really need to start rattling off the thousands of times he's had them out without any intention of using them? Like, seriously, if I do you know less about the character than I give you credit for.there was no around, it was a straight shot.
Originally posted by jinzin😆 Maybe you ARE trying to insult me. I guess that was your revenge. Let's call it even. Wolvie's also been KOed by rifle stroke b4 just like many normal humans would right? 😄 maybe this was another low end feat.
again, proves nothing. Normal humans don't get up at a full sprint after an 11 story fall, Normal humans can't take a punch from someone who can lift a mountain range and keep fighting, Normal humans don't surive plane crashes and come out of the resulting infernos swinging full bore at their arch nemesis... Yet all these things Logan DOES do, if you're seriously trying to argue that his arms COULDN'T work properly than it's you that's the joke here.
Originally posted by jinzin"I try to convince him to stay down. He starts to get the message" That reeeeealy leads me to believe he was trying to get up.
Because that's not when he decided to start letting spiderman hit him... 😐says you which you can't prove one bit, he may have been trying to keep himself up but he wasn't trying to get up in the sense of getting Spiderman to stop hitting him which he could and WOULD have if that's what he was doing.
Originally posted by jinzinI don't remember Spidey being KOed from that. Could be wrong though. I've been exposed to certain botanical substances since birth. Someone should post it again.
No one said that Spiderman couldn't cause him pain, the point is that he was able to physically guard himself from spidey's assault, if he was helpless in the gy fight to react physically, why not the training scenario.. unless of course, he wasn't helpless..Yes he has, when Wolverine kicked him the nutsack.
And that was before he saw Wolverine go to claw city infront of his eyes.
Originally posted by jinzinIt's no big deal. I'm used to being right all the time 😄 & whoever fu*ked it up in the book should be doing the apologizing
crap you're right, Chris did the first several and since the arc for ish 7 starts in issue 2 I didn't think he'd jump ship so quick...I owe you an apology on that point brainchild, sorry.
Originally posted by brainchild81
You say you aren't making this personal, but you obviously are taking it that way mane. I laugh @ shit I see on here all the time. You are right about not insulting me(never said or implied you did), but perhaps you are too easily insulted. If I've done anything out of line I apologize I thought it was a hook.
Maybe I am easily insulted, usually I don't care one way or the other, but when it comes from people who I again, respect and/or think of as a friend, well then I tend to TAKE it a bit more personal.
Originally posted by brainchild81Fairly certain it was dead center straight.
If I've done anything out of line I apologize I thought it was a hook. Somebody should post that shit again.
Originally posted by brainchild81
😆 Maybe you ARE trying to insult me. I guess that was your revenge. Let's call it even. Wolvie's also been KOed by rifle stroke b4 just like many normal humans would right? 😄 maybe this was another low end feat.
Or maybe he wasn't trying to use his arms make a break in the action.
Originally posted by brainchild81
"I try to convince him to stay down. He starts to get the message" That reeeeealy leads me to believe he was trying to get up.
It doesn't convince me other anything other than the idea that Spiderman was trying to knock him out and that Spiderman THOUGHT it was working. Either way it's nothing more than him boasting himself up since it's also immediately contradicted afterwards "I'm hitting him hard enough to wreck cars, I can't get him to stop smiling" The contradiction has always bothered me to be honest.
It's basicaly like Spiderman's saying, it's working...
then.
it's not working...
Originally posted by brainchild81
I don't remember Spidey being KOed from that. Could be wrong though.
Keeled over on the ground going uhhhhnnnn or something he was pretty much out.