Obesity Socially Contagious

Originally posted by Robtard
I can see how having obese parents can lead to their children being obese too, but blaming your greasy fat gut & ass on your fat peers? Sounds like an excuse.

It is an excuse, doesn't make it less true. No matter what you think you are influenced by your surroundings, some people get caught up in it and become fat because their friends are. Some people would simply use some control and not become fat like their friends.

It's all a matter of willpower but fact remains that when the people you know eat a lot you are more likely to do it to then when all of them eat healthy and regularly.

haha, oh look, we can make remarks that show how simple it must be to loose weight. It cant be difficult to overcome obesity 🙄

Obesity is normally a symptom of overeating, which in itself is normally an eating disorder or symptomatic of other deeper held anxieties or phobias.

I don't think it is going to surprise anyone to say that normal healthy people without eating disorders don't try to gorge on food the way clinically obese people do.

I know it doesn't make any sense at all to people without an eating disorder (and no I don't have one THANKFULLY) but they are not eating because they are hungry. There is dopamine released when one eats, and the gorging obese people do is very much related to getting that fix as a way to avoid other problems in their life.

Are there people who are just fat because of lifestyle? Sure there are. However, I would be willing to wager that most fat people are that way because they use food as an escape from other worldly problems (such as nobody liking them for being fat)

Originally posted by LethalFemme
New study "shows" being obese may be much more than stuffing your face. Apparently having an obese person in your life raises your chances. Now while I agree that there is a possibility that habits of other especially those close to us may rub off on us I also kinda feel that people are just looking for excuses. So what's you thoughts on this?

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20070725/obesity_contagious_070725/20070725?hub=World]

Thanks for posting this because it was on the BBC and I screamed at the television.

What this study shows is that:

1. People and the popular media have a BULLSHIT ability to do science.

2. People that live or play togther are likely to have similar lifestyles.

3. Obesity likely has some genetic link.

I don't know how andy of these conclusions are new information and it certianly doesn't warrant the term "contagious."

This is bullcrap.

Originally posted by Alliance

I don't know how andy of these conclusions are new information and it certianly doesn't warrant the term "contagious."

This is bullcrap.

agreed

to call it "contagious", as in comparing it to communicable diseases, is very dishonest

Originally posted by inimalist
haha, oh look, we can make remarks that show how simple it must be to loose weight. It cant be difficult to overcome obesity 🙄

Obesity is normally a symptom of overeating, which in itself is normally an eating disorder or symptomatic of other deeper held anxieties or phobias.

I don't think it is going to surprise anyone to say that normal healthy people without eating disorders don't try to gorge on food the way clinically obese people do.

I know it doesn't make any sense at all to people without an eating disorder (and no I don't have one THANKFULLY) but they are not eating because they are hungry. There is dopamine released when one eats, and the gorging obese people do is very much related to getting that fix as a way to avoid other problems in their life.

Are there people who are just fat because of lifestyle? Sure there are. However, I would be willing to wager that most fat people are that way because they use food as an escape from other worldly problems (such as nobody liking them for being fat)

There are plenty of people out there that are fat because they eat bad and don't sport enough. They have no problems at all, just lazy and or without enough willpower to stop eating and start doing sport or something like that. Morbidly obese people are usually hugely different, but somebody that is 10 or 20 kilo's overweight? Automatically naming that an eating disorder is as stupid as saying people 100 kilo's overweight can't have one.

Originally posted by Fishy
There are plenty of people out there that are fat because they eat bad and don't sport enough. They have no problems at all, just lazy and or without enough willpower to stop eating and start doing sport or something like that. Morbidly obese people are usually hugely different, but somebody that is 10 or 20 kilo's overweight? Automatically naming that an eating disorder is as stupid as saying people 100 kilo's overweight can't have one.

20 kilos is 40 lbs. I'm not sure if being 40 lbs overweight is what they are talking about, but yes, I would be inclined to think that someone who is 40lbs overweight is 1) not clinically obese (I guess I don't know for sure) and 2) ya, probably more about environment.

ummm, without getting too technical, I will say that bulemics are normally right on the normal weight line or just under, and they have real problems with binging, they just also have a purge stage.

I think that it might be prudent to say that I am not saying that these people all have eating disorders. However, I think in many cases of overweight people, the binge eating will be found to be symptomatic of other issues. I'd be willing to say depression (which laziness and apathy are also symptoms of) or anxiety (depression and anxiety are highly related and co-morbid) would certainly underly the motivations of lazy people. I can get more elaborate, but it is a really tricky subject.

I am not disagreeing with you in the way I think you think I am. I am not saying that these people are not responsable for their actions. I'm not saying that the fast food nation we live in isn't also making people more obese. All I am saying is that there are reasons underlying the descisions people make.

Originally posted by inimalist
Are there people who are just fat because of lifestyle? Sure there are. However, I would be willing to wager that most fat people are that way because they use food as an escape from other worldly problems (such as nobody liking them for being fat)

I would think that most people should know all of the information that you post...other than the chemical things that happen.

Grehlin also plays a role in satiety.

There may be over a 100 different chemical factors involved with eating and satiety.

However,

eating a lot of food is half of the puzzle...physcial activity is the other half. If these same "fat" people had to work in their field for 5 hours a day after milking the cows, feeding the livestock, and picking up the chicken eggs, do you think they would be as fat? Do you think they would have as much time to eat as much? What about our ancestors who had to take down giant buffalo with just spears?

Here is an image of what half the problem is:

Well, at least the cat is drinking bud light. 😄

Originally posted by inimalist
20 kilos is 40 lbs. I'm not sure if being 40 lbs overweight is what they are talking about, but yes, I would be inclined to think that someone who is 40lbs overweight is 1) not clinically obese (I guess I don't know for sure) and 2) ya, probably more about environment.

ummm, without getting too technical, I will say that bulemics are normally right on the normal weight line or just under, and they have real problems with binging, they just also have a purge stage.

I think that it might be prudent to say that I am not saying that these people all have eating disorders. However, I think in many cases of overweight people, the binge eating will be found to be symptomatic of other issues. I'd be willing to say depression (which laziness and apathy are also symptoms of) or anxiety (depression and anxiety are highly related and co-morbid) would certainly underly the motivations of lazy people. I can get more elaborate, but it is a really tricky subject.

I am not disagreeing with you in the way I think you think I am. I am not saying that these people are not responsable for their actions. I'm not saying that the fast food nation we live in isn't also making people more obese. All I am saying is that there are reasons underlying the descisions people make.

That's true of course there are reasons, I just thought you were saying that every fat person out there had some kind of eating disorder which I related to bulimia or something similar. Which I really do not agree with, but if that's not what you meant then never mind.

Originally posted by dadudemon
eating a lot of food is half of the puzzle...physcial activity is the other half. If these same "fat" people had to work in their field for 5 hours a day after milking the cows, feeding the livestock, and picking up the chicken eggs, do you think they would be as fat? Do you think they would have as much time to eat as much? What about our ancestors who had to take down giant buffalo with just spears?

I think this is central to the issue

regardless of the excersize component, many people don't have anything fufilling to do in their life. We have created a society that tries to cater to people rather than have them earn. While we have, for the first time in human history, created an abundance of food and other wealth, there is almost no need for most people to be alive.

This lack of necessity in people's life might be a cause for depression and self loathing in people. Basically, we have finally come to a point where our afluence has left us with nothing left (personally) to conquor. Which biologically is the only thing that our bodies have been set up to do

Originally posted by Fishy
That's true of course there are reasons, I just thought you were saying that every fat person out there had some kind of eating disorder which I related to bulimia or something similar. Which I really do not agree with, but if that's not what you meant then never mind.

Maybe it would be best to say that, in my opinion, people who are fat are driven by some internal motivation to use food as an escape from reality. Even if that reality is just the realization that there is no use for any particular individual.

It may just be habits and influence. If you are a guy, and you constantly hang around buff guys, your habits will most likely change, and you will eventually work to be buff like they are.

If you are a girl who has really hott freinds, likewise, you may be pressured into getting yourself into shape, going with them to salons, etc. to get yourself "done" as often as possible, looking as good as your freinds do, or as close as you can.

Peer Pressure, basically. Whatever your group of peers do, you are most likely to do.

If you have a goal to get fit, buff, jacked, or whatever, and you have freinds who just lay around all day, playing video games, or watching sports on tv, the motivation for you to work out will be lower. You will feel the urge to spend more time with your freinds, since the working out will come off as boring (doing it alone).

Having freinds who do take care of thier bodies, inpires competition within you to look as good as they do.

I think it all comes down to that.

I'm going to an all you can eat pizza buffet.

Who wants to come and expand with me?

i'm going to an all you can eat pussy buffet.

Originally posted by Schecter
i'm going to an all you can eat pussy buffet.

welll...you are what you eat...you big ol' pussy.

you know what you just walked into, right dick?

Huh? Is he an @sshole, is that it? What'd I win?

Originally posted by Schecter
you know what you just walked into, right dick?

nah...left dick.

Great, now when I am standing in line at the grocery store and I see some jaba the hutt in front of me scooping ice cream out of a tub with her hand and into her mouth she will be able to complain about how "its all her friends fault, or her genetics fault" instead of her own.

Originally posted by dadudemon
nah...left dick.

tell another bad joke like that and ill stomp a kitten

Originally posted by Schecter
tell another bad joke like that and ill stomp a kitten

I wonder what "ill stomping" is. Is that gangsta speak?

Edit-(Maybe you should "ill stomp" the weasel in your sig instead?)