Originally posted by miss_swann
But the perfect human image conveyed by Hollywood kills young girls. (and the odd boy)
Is it really the entertainment mediums fault for portraying this image, or societies fault for accepting it? The 90 pound girl with salon styled hair wasnt always the image of the western woman, atleast not until people started striving to resemble it.
Ridiculous.
That is what I have to say about that study.
My father is 450 pounds.
My mother, over 200.
5 of my best friends (female) obese.
I'm 5'7 and weigh 160.
Now in todays standards 160 is HUGE. Even though I'm a size 12.
It's sickening.
But anyways. I have been around large people all my life and I'm perfectly fine. Never was obese or nothing. It's all about will power.
And BTW to that little crack about fat chicks.
Are you shitting me? The bigger girls are gorgeous! They have the prettiest skin and the nicest smiles.
And to the other crack about them ordering ever appetizer on the menu. I can honestly tell you that every time I go out with a large person to eat, we don't get appetizers.
Truth be told, it's not so much food it's lack of exercise. Here's my diet.
Morning,
McDonalds Biscuit and Gravy, hashbrown, large coke
Morning Snack
usually a slice or two of pizza
lunch
Double Classic with bacon, mayo lettuce and cheese large with a coke from wendys.
afternoon snack
yogurt with granola and a vanilla frosty
Dinner
Varies. Usually cheese fries with ranch and a deep fried onion
then after dinner I eat a slice of whatever cake I made (I love baking)
I eat like that almost every day. And I've actually lost 10 pounds.
It's because I exercise atleast 3 hours a day. If you exercise you can eat whatever you want
Originally posted by BeautiflDisastr
Here's my diet.Morning,
McDonalds Biscuit and Gravy, hashbrown, large cokeMorning Snack
usually a slice or two of pizzalunch
Double Classic with bacon, mayo lettuce and cheese large with a coke from wendys.afternoon snack
yogurt with granola and a vanilla frostyDinner
Varies. Usually cheese fries with ranch and a deep fried onionthen after dinner I eat a slice of whatever cake I made (I love baking)
I eat like that almost every day. And I've actually lost 10 pounds.
It's because I exercise atleast 3 hours a day. If you exercise you can eat whatever you want
Isn't that slightly unhealthy and fattening? Perhaps you have a high metabolism stopping you getting obese. People with high metabolisms are lucky! (Do you drink green tea?)
Originally posted by miss_swann
Isn't that slightly unhealthy and fattening? Perhaps you have a high metabolism stopping you getting obese. People with high metabolisms are lucky! (Do you drink green tea?)
You would be correct, young lady.
This person has a high metabolism. The exception to the rule.
She is right about one thing...it is the lack of excercise and poor food choices versus simply a total daily coloric intake.
Originally posted by miss_swann
I'm just saying that people moan and wine about all these girls that are "too skinny" and then they make a huge fuss of how good they looked at a premiere. It's ridiculos, they should either advertise skinny girls as the way to go or find equally beautiful fat people.
Originally posted by inimalist
stress is more closely related to obesity than diet or exercise😉
but of course, those of us screaming that people need to stop sitting on the couch eating doritos already knew that
True that cortisol is has been shown to increase subcutaneous and visceral fat deposits. The primary cause of obesity is a very simple and a fundamental equation....(I say that this is simple but this may seem complicated...ask bardock42 if this is complicated compared to what he is doing and he will probably say that my equation is a cake walk compared to what he is studying.)
IF y >x then y -x =w
b +w /3500=n
What all of that means...
y =the total number of calories consumed in a day (24 hour period)
x =the total number of calories burned in a day (the same exact 24 hr period as y )
w =the net change in calories consumed in a day...if w is a positive value, then the body is in a positive nitrogen balance. If the value of w is negative, then the body is in a negative nitrogen balance. So you can say that the sign of w indicates either a positive or negative nitrogen balance.
b is the body weight of the individual at the start of the same 24 hr period as y and x started at. w is divided by 3500 because that is the rounded number of calories in a pound of human body weight. (see http://www.dietbites.com/diet-pound.html for details. Also, that information is common knowledge, imo.)
n = the net change in body weight at the end of the 24 hour period. n varies directly with the nitrogen balance of the body, w .
If total daily intake calories y is > total number calories burned during the day x then the excess will be stored as fat w in the body b . IF you are stressed out, there are several factors involved in fat storage, just one of them is elevated cortisol levels due to stress.
If there isn't a positive nitrogen balance, then no matter how stressed they are, they will not gain weight...they could, however, change the ratio of muscle and fat through the lack of exercise and a diet that does not contain what the body needs for a good muscle to fat ratio.
Your statement should read, "stress is a factor in obesity, not just a poor diet and exercise habits."
Originally posted by dadudemon
Your statement should read, "stress is a factor in obesity, not just a poor diet and exercise habits."
indeed it should
clearly diet and exercise play a roll, but for most people it wont be the cause.
I'm going to go out on a hypothetical limb, and if you want to clean up this statement so that it is entirely empirically accurate feel free, but most people who are obese are not obese only because they eat too much or do not exercise. Sure there are some, but those who are genetically determined, those who suffer from other psychological problems that manifest in eating disorders, those who environmental factors (both pollution and socialization) and those who suffer from a stressful or difficult life will greatly outnumber them.
When I get home from work I will post part of a recent interview that was done on a Podcast called "the skeptics guide to the universe". I don't just want to parrot what the guy is saying, but really, diet and exercise play little if any roll in the current obesity epidemic. Sure they could be a cause of any individuals obesity, but they are not what is driving the "epidemic".
Originally posted by debbiejo
American menus encourage obesity also. And people look for those large portions or they feel ripped off.
from the interview I will post later:
the timelines of the obesity epidemic do not relate at all to the timelines of the rise of fast food.
They do however relate very well to the timeline of the anti-smoking campaign.
the law of unforseen consequences
Originally posted by inimalist
from the interview I will post later:the timelines of the obesity epidemic do not relate at all to the timelines of the rise of fast food.
They do however relate very well to the timeline of the anti-smoking campaign.
the law of unforseen consequences
Haha, yeah. When the smokers were smacked in the mouth, they turned to their fat oppressors and said, "Don't worry - your day is coming."
Originally posted by botankus
Haha, yeah. When the smokers were smacked in the mouth, they turned to their fat oppressors and said, "Don't worry - your day is coming."
actually it is correlating quitting smoking with weight gain
which is pretty well documented
basically, when a large portion of the population gives up smoking, a large portion of the population gets fat.
I might have made a mistake....here is something on nitrgoen balance...nitrogen balance, if I am not mistaken....has to do with muscle gain and loss...
Originally posted by inimalist
indeed it shouldclearly diet and exercise play a roll, but for most people it wont be the cause.
I'm going to go out on a hypothetical limb, and if you want to clean up this statement so that it is entirely empirically accurate feel free, but most people who are obese are not obese [b]only
because they eat too much or do not exercise. Sure there are some, but those who are genetically determined, those who suffer from other psychological problems that manifest in eating disorders, those who environmental factors (both pollution and socialization) and those who suffer from a stressful or difficult life will greatly outnumber them.When I get home from work I will post part of a recent interview that was done on a Podcast called "the skeptics guide to the universe". I don't just want to parrot what the guy is saying, but really, diet and exercise play little if any roll in the current obesity epidemic. Sure they could be a cause of any individuals obesity, but they are not what is driving the "epidemic". [/B]
Dude, sorry, I might have come off as arrogant with how I cleaned up your statement. I apologize if it did come off as arrogant and that was not my intention...I hold your opinions and views on things in high regard and my intention was only to provide additional information, not to demean you.
Indeed, eating and exercise are not the only parts to a healthy body; they are but 2 slices of the health pie.
Let me explain better.
A healthy body is obtained and maintained through 5 different dimensions.
1. Resistance training. (Weight lifting etc.)
2. Cardio Vascular Training. (Treadmill, Elliptical Machine, jogging, Boxing etc.)
3. Flexibility training. (Stretching to keep you limber...it can be things like Yoga and Pilates or just simply a 15-minute stretch in the morning. Stretching can play a role in maintaining good joint mobility as you get older...etc.)
4. Nutrition. (Your diet is a large part of your health.)
5. Psychological state. (This is a big one, stress, anxiety, etc. can affect your health greatly and be counter productive to the first four.)
Some people like to add a sixth one, which is spiritual, but I feel that it should be lumped into psychological.