You're Favorite Sith Lord

Originally posted by Darth Sexy

No, KOTOR doesn't claim anything like that. Again, you sound like a blubbbering buffoon making a claim and continuing to make up facts for that claim.

This just sums up most of the content of your posts: blatant denial without any substantial argument.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
You haven't made any points and your arguments were still defeated. Quit while you're behind.

Do you ever write anything relevant to a debate?

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Good lord, you are an idiot.

Says the neanderthal who doesn't know the meaning of, substantial argument.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Gosh I love how you spout all of this "sound reasoning" nonsense, yet you can't even form a cogent argument, much less show any ability to debate. Guess what, she achieved nothing close to Revan, nor is her power anywhere close to Revan's. You living in denial doesn't help your argument.

Denial? You don't seem to understand the meaning of the word, or at least how it should be applied in this instance. I'm basing my argument off of the supporting evidence of quotes and feats from Kotor 2.

Whereas you, you're merely denying the credibility of my argument simply because you don't like it, and when I point out the holes in the very few arguments you wish to make, you just go back to denying.

You're the prime example of denial.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Says the jackass who claims that not only can the exile defeat Ulic (humorous), but the exile=Revan (more humorous). Get your head out of your ass.

The Exile's feats put her above Ulic and her feats and the supporting evidence of Kotor 2 quotes, put her on par with Revan.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Wow, yet again you have absolutely no logical points. If someone who has any credibility tells me I need a lesson in concepts, I'll take it seriously. When it's someone who hasn't won a single debate on this forum and who can't for the life of him understand logic, I can just laugh.

Like it matters if you take it seriously. What makes you think your approval has any value to me? You didn't get the gist of my point and I called you out on it, no need to make yourself look like more of a tool.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy

No, his power is obvious. You know what's funny. You are basing the Exile's abilities on 3rd party sources and yet when it comes to Revan's power, it's not "obvious" because of some third party sources. Gotta love the double standards by the stupid people on this forum.

What double standards? You're becoming a bigger idiot than I thought you were.

I was merely pointing out to you, your double standards. Everything relating to Revan's power is based off of the same third party sources on the Exile you're quick to discredit.

The only non third party reference on Revan's power states that he resisted the ds on Malachor 5. So I ask you, how is Revan's power obvious, discounting the 3rd party sources that have praised him?

So I'll say it again, without third part sources we wouldn't be having this discussion. And it is from those same third party sources that the Exile is said to be an equal to Revan.

"I thought that Revan was a single Jedi, but now there's you [the Exile]. With all our martial training, battles and ethics, even our greatest warriors are no match for you."

Originally posted by Thiru

She said it could not be taught, only given yet its pretty much safe to assume sidious learnt it seeing that the visual guide said he learnt the dark side secrets from holocrons
Refuted

She never said it could only be given, she said it had to be experienced to be acquired. Nothing has been refuted, pLus Nihilus powers were complicated by the fact that he was a wound in the force, what Sidious did to the inhabitants of Byss, was a lot less severe.

Originally posted by Thiru
Sorry but she fails, shes fallible, she claims tulak hord uses a lightsaber and the best of the ancient sith, but ancient sith used swords and she never recovered his holocron nor ever saw any of them fight.

How does this discredit anything? Tulak Horde didn't belong to the era of Sith that fought in the Hyperspace war. Two, based on the fact that Tulak Horde canonically belonged to a different generation it can be deduced that in his era lightsabers were used by the Sith. Third, in the comic we only see one generation of Sith, so how the hell can you say the ancients only used swords?

Originally posted by Thiru
As for revan, she personally knew and witnessed everything she did which equates to you being an *******.

Don't be juvenile. Who was arguing against this?

Originally posted by Thiru
This is irrelevant to the fight so ill drop it, but the fact remains she is fallible, she claims he is the greatest saber duelist but did she ever see him fight? Was she there to witness his acomplishments? Simple answer: [b] hell no. So she is speculating[/B]

She was a historian. She would have read something about what other historians (closer to Tulak Hordes era) would have written about him. She wouldn't just be speculating without their being information on Tulak. Otherwise, why talk about some random Sith she has no idea about? It wouldn't make sense. Would you speculate over anything you have no information about?

Originally posted by Thiru
The thing is i have, the thing is sidious learning techniques via holocrons which kreia stated that it cannot be learnt pretty much proves her wrong, and due to the fact she has nothing to back her claim of tulak being the greatest saber duelist as she never saw him once nor got his holocrons.

Sidious' draining technique it can be argued wasn't the exact same thing as Nihilus'. Whereas Sidious gradually drew force energy from the inhabitants of Byss, Nihilus breached the connection between life and the force and fed on the DEATH it created. So based on that evidence, they appear to be similar techniques but very different in the way they are applied.

Sidious never actually breached force connections, Like Nihilus did, nor did he feed on the ds energy released form their deaths.

Originally posted by Thiru
Doesn't change the fact revan >>>> exile.

I like how you try to make a point, without the effort of making a point.

Originally posted by Thiru
You also have to remember that it was revans [b] strength in the force which allows him to accomplish his greatest feat of draining malachors dark side energies, And please prove up where it said because she was emotionally unstable, it destroyed her, The last i recall she herself admitted that revan could do that to malachor while it overwhelmed her despite her efforts to repel the dark energies.[/B]

"JEDI MASTER KREIA, Revan's old mentor, is still haunted by guilt, wondering whether it was her teaching that resulted in Revan's fall to the dark side, and begins to search for him. Sensing his last location, she travels to Malachor V, but is unable to shield her emotions, and is completely consumed by the dark side of the Force." --- The Chronicles

Happy! She was emotionally unbalanced, not weak. Kreia seems like someone with a lot of will power, she should have been able to resist Malachor 5's ds energy, if not for the heavy emotions she carried with her going into Malachor.

Originally posted by Thiru
No, from your perspective the exile has slightly better achievements
Equal in greateness, not strength and power.

My point is, as a Jedi she has the showing and quotes to be put on par with Revan.

Originally posted by Thiru
Uh you did, that his "hunger reacts faster than the other force user".

That's your childish assumption. My point is he's got an "ace in the hole", an edge over most force sensitives. Drawing up scenarios is pointless.

Originally posted by Thiru
Oh so me argueing for revan or exar = me being a fanboy, Your an idiot, i dont even like exar kun. How can i be labelled a fanboy when i merely argued on the characters side? ".

You reacted like a fanboy. Drawing up scenarios, listing down techniques and weapons Kun would use to disintegrate Nihilus in an instant. You should at least have recognized the advantage Nihilus has over his opponents. He's one of the few Sith who can defeat his opponents without ever needing to draw his saber.

Originally posted by Thiru
I might as well dispute you a raging hormone fanboy of the exile seeing that you claim she > revan without proof and you use speculation to back your assertions".

No proof? How about the supporting evidence I've listed down time and again? Really, you need to stop disregarding points simply because you don't like them.

Originally posted by Thiru
Nihilus would actually be at a greater disadvantages, seeing that he is always in a weakened state when he hungers".

That's only if you make the assumption that he'll be weakened when he faces any of your heroes. He's weakened when he tried to drain the Exile, and then by long delays before feeding. You'd have to assume both scenarios taking place.

Originally posted by Thiru
I guess luke and sidious would be at a disadvantage too. You cant prove it

I don't really care about Sidious and Luke. You cango ahead and think they're both indestructible except towards each other but the point is, as long as they have a connection to the force they are vulnerable.

Originally posted by Thiru
Common sense would obviously indicate a superior force user would be at an advantage. The fact weather his hunger will react or not is irrelevant

What do you mean superior? A person with force energy equal to or greater than planet draining level? You don't seem to get it, force sensitives are like magnets to Nihilus. The greater the force reserves the more he's "magnetized".

Originally posted by Thiru
Neither does he kill you with a singular technique, he tried to kill kreia with that technique and it didnt work, simply because she is stronger than him in so many aspects of the force
Yet it was stated he cuts off his victims off the force, kills them then feeds on the death it causes,

How old are you? Is this how you argue? Ignore when my arguments is refuted, and hope that I pwn him with constant repetition? I'll say it again, Nihilus never intended to kill Kreia. If Sion and Nihilus wanted her dead they would have killed her easily in her weakened state, when they had her at their mercy.

Secondly, and most importantly Kreia said that the Nihilus and Sion wanted her alive, thinking to humiliate an break her will. They wanted her broken not dead.

Originally posted by Thiru

Uh no, he feeds on the death he causes idiot, you just contradicted yourself

Who denied that? In your sorry excuse for a breakdown you mentioned that Nihilus doesn't kill you instantly and you went to break down the process inaccurately to make an irrelevant point. Nihilus does kill you instantly. He breaches/servers your connection to the force, thereby killing you. He then feeds on the residual dark side energy caused by the breach. Instead of using the word DEATH, I say 'residual dark side' energy (because 'death' is ambiguous).

Originally posted by Thiru
Wow so because he hungers and performs one feat, it means he is superior to the both of them, i guess he would >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sidious too because sidious never planned to do that to the galaxy when he could

Man you don't know how to make a point. I said, Revan and Kun have never been shown to possess the dark side energy required to sever a planets connection with the force i.e. to drain a planets life. Because of this Nihilus possesses a greater reserve of ds energy than either Kun or Revan.

It doesn't matter if you can do as many techniques as they are colours, I'm talking about latent force power here.

Originally posted by Allankles
She never said it could only be given, she said it had to be experienced to be acquired. Nothing has been refuted, pLus Nihilus powers were complicated by the fact that he was a wound in the force, what Sidious did to the inhabitants of Byss, was a lot less severe.

Get this in your head and move on with life. Shes fallible, shes not 100% right

Originally posted by Allankles

How does this discredit anything?

Some one can walk up to me and say the grass is red but does it mean it is really red?

Originally posted by Allankles

Tulak Horde didn't belong to the era of Sith that fought in the Hyperspace war.

Originally posted by Allankles

Two, based on the fact that Tulak Horde canonically belonged to a different generation it can be deduced that in his era lightsabers were used by the Sith. Third, in the comic we only see one generation of Sith, so how the hell can you say the ancients only used swords?

My god your a real idiot

Originally posted by Allankles

Don't be juvenile. Who was arguing against this?

Originally posted by Allankles

She was a historian. She would have read something about what other historians (closer to Tulak Hordes era) would have written about him.

Originally posted by Allankles

She wouldn't just be speculating without their being information on Tulak. Otherwise, why talk about some random Sith she has no idea about? It wouldn't make sense. Would you speculate over anything you have no information about?

Originally posted by Allankles

Sidious' draining technique it can be argued wasn't the exact same thing as Nihilus'. Whereas Sidious gradually drew force energy from the inhabitants of Byss, Nihilus breached the connection between life and the force and fed on the DEATH it created. So based on that evidence, they appear to be similar techniques but very different in the way they are applied.

DESB is the source, dont make me get lightsnake to argue on this one

Originally posted by Allankles

Sidious never actually breached force connections, Like Nihilus did, nor did he feed on the ds energy released form their deaths.

Originally posted by Allankles

I like how you try to make a point, without the effort of making a point.

Originally posted by Allankles

"JEDI MASTER KREIA, Revan's old mentor, is still haunted by guilt, wondering whether it was her teaching that resulted in Revan's fall to the dark side, and begins to search for him. Sensing his last location, she travels to Malachor V, but is unable to shield her emotions, and is completely consumed by the dark side of the Force." --- The Chronicles

Originally posted by Allankles

Happy! She was emotionally unbalanced, not weak. Kreia seems like someone with a lot of will power, she should have been able to resist Malachor 5's ds energy, if not for the heavy emotions she carried with her going into Malachor.

Originally posted by Allankles

My point is, as a Jedi she has the showing and quotes to be put on par with Revan.

Originally posted by Allankles

That's your childish assumption. My point is he's got an "ace in the hole", an edge over most force sensitives. Drawing up scenarios is pointless.

Originally posted by Allankles

You reacted like a fanboy. Drawing up scenarios,

Originally posted by Allankles

listing down techniques and weapons Kun would use to disintegrate Nihilus in an instant.

Originally posted by Allankles

You should at least have recognized the advantage Nihilus has over his opponents.

How i forget this puts him at a disadvantage.

Originally posted by Allankles

He's one of the few Sith who can defeat his opponents without ever needing to draw his saber.

Right go on.

Originally posted by Allankles

No proof? How about the supporting evidence I've listed down time and again? Really, you need to stop disregarding points simply because you don't like them.

Because a kotor character stated exar kun is the most powerful sith lord who ever lived. I think it was tsuvam tam who said that,

Originally posted by Allankles

That's only if you make the assumption that he'll be weakened when he faces any of your heroes. He's weakened when he tried to drain the Exile, and then by long delays before feeding. You'd have to assume both scenarios taking place.

Originally posted by Allankles

I don't really care about Sidious and Luke. You cango ahead and think they're both indestructible except towards each other but the point is, as long as they have a connection to the force they are vulnerable.

Originally posted by Allankles

What do you mean superior? A person with force energy equal to or greater than planet draining level? You don't seem to get it, force sensitives are like magnets to Nihilus. The greater the force reserves the more he's "magnetized".

Fantastic logic . I guess bastila is miles ahead of dooku in pure power seeing that she has battle meditation which can influence thousands of people while dooku cant.

I also guess a mere night sister is miles ahead of vader seeing that they have lightning and drain which vader doesnt.

I guess he would annihilate luke because luke never demonstarted anything like draining a planet.

Go and debating allankes

Originally posted by Allankles

How old are you? Is this how you argue? Ignore when my arguments is refuted, and hope that I pwn him with constant repetition? I'll say it again, Nihilus never intended to kill Kreia. If Sion and Nihilus wanted her dead they would have killed her easily in her weakened state, when they had her at their mercy.

And ill let you know again idiot, he cuts his victims off the force, kills them and then feeds on the death it causes as visas stated, ill concede the kreia point but i doubt you even know what im trying to interpret.

Again cutting one off the force is part of his technique, And as various sources show, you cant cut a superior force user off the force

Originally posted by Allankles

Secondly, and most importantly Kreia said that the Nihilus and Sion wanted her alive, thinking to humiliate an break her will. They wanted her broken not dead.

Originally posted by Allankles

Who denied that? In your sorry excuse for a breakdown you mentioned that Nihilus doesn't kill you instantly and you went to break down the process inaccurately to make an irrelevant point. Nihilus does kill you instantly. He breaches/servers your connection to the force, thereby killing you.

Originally posted by Allankles

He then feeds on the residual dark side energy caused by the breach. Instead of using the word DEATH, I say 'residual dark side' energy (because 'death' is ambiguous).

Originally posted by Allankles

Man you don't know how to make a point. I said, Revan and Kun have never been shown to possess the dark side energy required to sever a planets connection with the force i.e. to drain a planets life. Because of this Nihilus possesses a greater reserve of ds energy than either Kun or Revan.

Originally posted by Allankles

It doesn't matter if you can do as many techniques as they are colours, I'm talking about latent force power here.

I think that the quotes from Kreia about Revan's power are a little out of date (but still valid as much as other 3rd party sources) She knew at best Darth Revan and when he was her padawan. She had no contact with Revan and powerful he became in kotor which ended in him becoming more powerful than he was when he was Darth Revan. Being that she was not actually there i see her quotes about comparing Revan to the exile are based on the Revan she last saw which is god knows when since we don't know the last time Kreia saw Revan.

Originally posted by Allankles
[B]And Revan being neither 800 years old and not knowing virtually every Sith technique, would have knowledge equivalent to whom? A jedi historian/chronicler? To say that the knowledge of rituals (which don't even apply to personal power), would make someone powerful is merely an unsubstantiated assumption.

Stop being an idiot. I said the exact same thing in my post. The Sith were incompetent to make Bane look good and to give him reason to kill them. In the real world however, this is classified under lazy writing and is one of the reasons for my dissatisfaction with POD.

Originally posted by Allankles
This just sums up most of the content of your posts: blatant denial without any substantial argument.

Like it matters if you take it seriously. What makes you think your approval has any value to me? You didn't get the gist of my point and I called you out on it, no need to make yourself look like more of a tool.

Aww yet again, I call you a tool, you repeat it back to me. Tell me, do morons ever know when they've lost? Apparently not.

Originally posted by Allankles

How does this discredit anything? Tulak Horde didn't belong to the era of Sith that fought in the Hyperspace war. Two, based on the fact that Tulak Horde canonically belonged to a different generation it can be deduced that in his era lightsabers were used by the Sith. Third, in the comic we only see one generation of Sith, so how the hell can you say the ancients only used swords?

My point is, as a Jedi she has the showing and quotes to be put on par with Revan.

You reacted like a fanboy. Drawing up scenarios, listing down techniques and weapons Kun would use to disintegrate Nihilus in an instant. You should at least have recognized the advantage Nihilus has over his opponents. He's one of the few Sith who can defeat his opponents without ever needing to draw his saber.

No proof? How about the supporting evidence I've listed down time and again? Really, you need to stop disregarding points simply because you don't like them.

I don't really care about Sidious and Luke. You cango ahead and think they're both indestructible except towards each other but the point is, as long as they have a connection to the force they are vulnerable.

How old are you? Is this how you argue? Ignore when my arguments is refuted, and hope that I pwn him with constant repetition? I'll say it again, Nihilus never intended to kill Kreia. If Sion and Nihilus wanted her dead they would have killed her easily in her weakened state, when they had her at their mercy.

Originally posted by Allankles
What double standards? You're becoming a bigger idiot than I thought you were.

"I thought that Revan was a single Jedi, but now there's you [the Exile]. With all our martial training, battles and ethics, even our greatest warriors are no match for you."

Can i say wtf owned?

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
When the hell did I ever say they ONLY used swords? I've stated that they COULD have used lightsabers and then switched to swords as a matter of preference.

What kind of an idiot are you? This was in response to Manslayer.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
No you don't have a point because not only do the quotes NOT put her on par with Revan, quotes are 3rd party sources. I have Revan's feats as evidence of my argument that the exile is nowhere near Revan, while you have debateable 3rd party sources. Way to go dumbass.

And I have the Exiles' feats that put her on par with Revan. Post some of these feats and I'll be glad to demonstrate. Don't just write "I have Revan's feats", I too "have" Revan's feats. Way to go, not making a point as usual.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Actually there are many that could accomplish this Nihilus fanboy. Stop repeating my insults back to me, it makes you look retarded.

Now there are many who could accomplish what Nihilus could do? Whatever, all that matter is that Revan and Kun can't.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
YOu haven't listed any evidence. You have absolutely no concept of how logical debating works, nor the intricacies of canon policy. You're just making a fool out of yourself.

How about quotes, accomplishments, relatable and equal feats? How about you just shut up, if you aren't going to make a point. Repeating the same irrelevant bs time and again doesn't do anything to my argument. You have to refute it, with a better argument, or you're just becoming more of an idiot and wasting your own time (as I am mine replying to this garbage).

I already compared an contrasted their feats pages ago, as well as listed the third party quotes that supported my argument, and then mentioned that the Exile backed up the quotes with impressive combat feats.

Lastly, there are no intricate canon policies to me. If you find them intricate that's a product of your limited capacity to think for yourself.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Except they are indestructible and they are #1 and #2 in the star wars universe. Furthermore they can disconnect/hide from the force so they're not really vulnerable.

Didn't I already say I don't care what you think. They are both force sensitives that rely heavily on the force. As long as they have a connection they'd be vulnerable. They can hide in the force, but it is impossible to disconnect from the force and reconnect at will. If you disconnected from the force, you'd have no force power to reconnect with. Furthermore, if your disconnected the breach has to be healed by someone else with a connection to the force.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
You don't HAVE an argument, don't you get that? You never did? You spout the same nonsense over and over again and wonder why you get laughed at and maintain 0 credibility.

And the irrelevant bs continues. If I had a penny for every time you didn't make a point I'd be a millionaire. How the hell can you call yourself a debater when you don't debate. It's pointless, talking to you It doesn't help when all you do is use blatant denial to make a point.

Revan's power is founded on third party quotes, the same third party quotes that state the Exile was equal to Revan. The fact that Canderous called Revan the greatest single warrior of his era, and then went on to revise that statement when he met the Exile speaks volumes.

"I thought that Revan was a single Jedi, but now there's you [The Exile], with all our training, battles and ethics even our greatest warriors are no match for you."

Second, when compared and contrasted the Exile's feats matchup well (if not surpass) Revan's own.

You denying this supporting evidence based on your preference alone doesn't mean shit. Writing "you don't have an argument" again and again is meaningless, if you don't back it up with a substantial arguments.

Originally posted by Thiru
Can i say wtf owned?

Blind fanboyism much? All your boy does is deny the content of arguments, he doesn't come up with any of his own.

Because of this, a blind, quadriplegic with downs syndrome could hang with him in a debate, simply because his posts lack substance.

Calling people idiots and making claims they don't know "intricacies" of canon, does not an argument make.

But you can carry on cheerleading, there's obviously nothing I can do to change your reasoning.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy

Wow.. Yea, at the time, even the greatest warriors arent a match for you. This isn't talking about overall, or ever, it's talking about the present. The fact that this quote says nothing about the exile being Revan's equal makes you look incompetent.

How does this argument address the reference to Revan? Or don't you understand the significance of the comparison here?

Canderous is admitting (for the first and only time) that the Exile is equally as exceptional a Jedi as Revan. I don't care about the warriors Canderous is talking about (whether past, present or future).

Boy, you don't know how to make a point.

Proofs that Revan owns the exile:

"The Force flows through you like no student we have ever seen"- Vrook Lamar

And guess what, master VANDAR, the grand master of the jedi order stated that the exile was an AVERAGE jedi, which the ability to easily create bonds. Also, wasn't kreia the same person who said that Tulak Horde would own all the jedi? In case you haven't notice kreia seems a bit bias in his statements about almost everybody around. And she loves the exile. Also, this "greatest student" doesn't need to be "strongest in the force" or whatsoever. Besides, it's widely known that Revan had several masters, so in some way, Revan had no master. Perhaps the only one who can be called master from revan was zhar, as far as we understand from KOTOR, so this quote means nothing.

By the way, let's not forget who were the 2 greatest jedis of the order during the mandalorian wars: Revan and Malak. The exile was merely a general as any other jedi knight around, not even noticed until guys like Revan and Malak came out of scene.

Also, I doubt the exile can beat Revan when she was defeated by Sion in Koriban and only won in Malachor due to mental attrition when Sion himself was 1 of the sith lords in the Sith Academy (stated by Sion himself) when Revan killed Master Uthar, the head of the academy and so a stronger sith then sion, together with his apprentice Yuthura, at the same time, after single-handed killed 2 tentareks. I also recall that Revan went through the entire academy and i don't remember that sion could do a thing to him... Ah, and by the way, notice how Malak was the sith lord, darth bandon his apprentice (stated as been chosen from all the siths of the academy by malak himself; again sion was not the choice) and Uthar was the Head of the academy. All of them were technically, let's say, superior to a "regular" sith lord like sion. So, technically, even darth bandon could probably give a hell of a time to the exile (he is noticed to have killed several jedis from the exile's league).

Also, what Canderous, this OLD war veteran canderous said was that the exile, in a way like revan was before, was also a worthy warrior for the mandalorians. But canderous, the young, proud, strong and soldier skull-crusher canderous, the one on his prime, stated that revan was the SINGLE greatest WARRIOR the galaxy had ever met. And wasn't the exile a jedi from the Mandalorian Wars too?

Ah, and revan bliended Adjunta Pall with his sheer force power, defeated the legendary Yusanis, Mandalore the Ultimate, Malak, Calo Nord and Bandon, etc. Ah, and he killed a captain/admiral/man on his ship with a force choke in, guess what, 2 seconds (literally). Impressive? I think so.

So Exile>Revan? 😆

^ owned again.

Revan doesnt > the exile kamhal, Revan >>> the exile

Originally posted by Allankles
Blind fanboyism much? All your boy does is deny the content of arguments, he doesn't come up with any of his own.

Because of this, a blind, quadriplegic with downs syndrome could hang with him in a debate, simply because his posts lack substance.

Calling people idiots and making claims they don't know "intricacies" of canon, does not an argument make.

But you can carry on cheerleading, there's obviously nothing I can do to change your reasoning.

Originally posted by Allankles

Didn't I already say I don't care what you think. They are both force sensitives that rely heavily on the force. As long as they have a connection they'd be vulnerable. They can hide in the force, but it is impossible to disconnect from the force and reconnect at will. If you disconnected from the force, you'd have no force power to reconnect with. Furthermore, if your disconnected the breach has to be healed by someone else with a connection to the force.

And in certein cases offence is the greatest defence, Kuns amulets, revans storm lightning, vaders force crush, banes force wave. Etc

Originally posted by Thiru
^ owned again.

Revan doesnt > the exile kamhal, Revan >>> the exile

Lol so your a master debator in your own little world of denial

Who said anything about being a master debater? I'm pointing out that your boy Saxy doesn't debate. Look at Karmhal over there, at least he comes up with arguments extremely flawed arguments, but arguments nonetheless. (I'll address your arguments shortly karmhal).

Originally posted by Thiru
Sorry, luke can disconnect himself from the force at will and reconnect and yet he is still able to use the force, This is called the fallanasi technique

And in certein cases offence is the greatest defence, Kuns amulets, revans storm lightning, vaders force crush, banes force wave. Etc

Again, how can you connect youself to the force after completely being disconnected/blinded to it? Are you forgetting Ulic, the Exile, the Kotor Jedi council? Unless someone helps you reconnect ala the Exile, you'd obviously have no power to reconnect to the force.

I don't beleive the fallanasi technique involves a disconnect but a suppression of force presence. Could explain how you can connect to the force without a force connection?

Originally posted by Allankles

And I have the Exiles' feats that put her on par with Revan. Post some of these feats and I'll be glad to demonstrate. Don't just write "I have Revan's feats", I too "have" Revan's feats. Way to go, not making a point as usual.

How about quotes, accomplishments, relatable and equal feats? How about you just shut up, if you aren't going to make a point. Repeating the same irrelevant bs time and again doesn't do anything to my argument. You have to refute it, with a better argument, or you're just becoming more of an idiot and wasting your own time (as I am mine replying to this garbage).

I already compared an contrasted their feats pages ago, as well as listed the third party quotes that supported my argument, and then mentioned that the Exile backed up the quotes with impressive combat feats.

Lastly, there are no intricate canon policies to me. If you find them intricate that's a product of your limited capacity to think for yourself.

Didn't I already say I don't care what you think. They are both force sensitives that rely heavily on the force. As long as they have a connection they'd be vulnerable. They can hide in the force, but it is impossible to disconnect from the force and reconnect at will. If you disconnected from the force, you'd have no force power to reconnect with. Furthermore, if your disconnected the breach has to be healed by someone else with a connection to the force.

And the irrelevant bs continues. If I had a penny for every time you didn't make a point I'd be a millionaire. How the hell can you call yourself a debater when you don't debate. It's pointless, talking to you It doesn't help when all you do is use blatant denial to make a point.

Revan's power is founded on third party quotes, the same third party quotes that state the Exile was equal to Revan. The fact that Canderous called Revan the greatest single warrior of his era, and then went on to revise that statement when he met the Exile speaks volumes.

Second, when compared and contrasted the Exile's feats matchup well (if not surpass) Revan's own.

Originally posted by Allankles
How does this argument address the reference to Revan? Or don't you understand the significance of the comparison here?

Canderous is admitting (for the first and only time) that the Exile is equally as exceptional a Jedi as Revan. I don't care about the warriors Canderous is talking about (whether past, present or future).

Boy, you don't know how to make a point.

That's just the point. YOu don't care about facts, but what suits you. Canderous is talking about the present while the exile quote is also in the present. SEeing as how Revan was the superior tactician and single handidly took the war to the Mandalorians, and had the Exile as a general, there is NOTHING that suggests the exile is anywhere near Revan's equal. Again, you look like a fool bringing up nonsense.

Originally posted by Allankles
Who said anything about being a master debater? I'm pointing out that your boy Saxy doesn't debate. Look at Karmhal over there, at least he comes up with arguments extremely flawed arguments, but arguments nonetheless. (I'll address your arguments shortly karmhal).

Again, how can you connect youself to the force after completely being disconnected/blinded to it? Are you forgetting Ulic, the Exile, the Kotor Jedi council? Unless someone helps you reconnect ala the Exile, you'd obviously have no power to reconnect to the force.