Super Buu vs Thanos

Originally posted by Evil_Ash
I'm somewhat leaning towards Super Buu...

He's pretty much indestructible. Plus, can't he just absorb Thanos?

Now how in the hell do you absorb an Eternal? And the most powerful one at that granted power ups by himself, magic, science, technology and Death herself? I'm no Thanos fan but I know Thanos beats the smack out of Superboo. THanos' Telepathy would make boo subject to a depowering. people forget telepathy also controls involuntary actions too. Thanos shuts off Boo's healing power and forces him to split with his absorbed powers, he then plays blast the boo piece as he turns each and every particle of boo into micro ash.

Alright, I just re-read the entire Freeza saga. Not only did I never see Goku stand in place while people punched through him, I also missed where it was said that Butta could travel at C, or anywhere near it. He claimed that his speed was unmatched throughout the universe - but that obviously wasn't the case as Goku humiliated him, and Freeza later showed speed rivalling that of a Super Saiya-jin Goku.

And we know that a Super Saiya-jin Goku couldn't travel at the speed of light, because it took him considerable time to try to make it to a spaceship as Namek exploded. Namek is larger than the Earth, sure, but even if it was seven times the size of Earth, Goku could have circled the planet in a SINGLE SECOND if he could have travelled at C.

C >>>>> Goku > Freeza > Butta 😐.

Originally posted by illadelph12
So, wait a minute, you guys are saying that in the cartoon I watched with my own two eyes, that when characters are being punched from mid air and hitting the ground smashing through hills, mountains, etc, that it's only class 40-50 ton strength being exhibited, and that it's their "chi", not the characters physical impact with the object (as is clearly depicted on screen), that causes the destruction? I can see that for when they power up and it rips apart a valley, but I'm talking about clearly depicted collateral damage shown from when Goku gets punched through a cliff, brings the whole thing down, then flies out and re-engages in combat. That's a 40-50 ton blow?

Then your also saying that a character that can take an unknown weight class punch (because the amount of force exhibited in a characters punch is not always clearly stated, regardless of how much they can lift, it doesn't say "Superman punches Grundy with 1.5 million tons per sq inch force uppercut" in the caption) is more physically durable than a character that can take a planet shattering blast to the chest like it was a tennis ball? And on top of that, your saying that even if a character has no strength feats of their own, if they're depicted trading blows with a character with immense "lifting" strength, that their "physical" strength class and durability is greater than a Z fighter who has also taken the same non stated class punches?

I'm sorry, but I'm not really buying that ya'll.

40-50 tons of punching force is not launching a humanoid with enough force to travel a kilometer and still have enough inertia to go through a mountain range or cliff face and cause it to collapse as has been clearly depicted on screen in numerous episodes. Comparable lifting feats or not, it's clear that a Z Fighter and their opponents physical striking force exerted is greater than the 40-50 ton range.

I'm not a rookie. That's not working on me guys.

This post speaks volumes

Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
This post speaks volumes

I have seen grown men get thrown many feat just by getting hit by a two thousand pound car skidding on it's breaks going maybe 30 ish. I think 50 ton range, by someone moving fast with the intent on hitting something should be able to send someone flying thru a mountain if that person is tuff enough for the impact not to splatter them. Am i wrong?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I have seen grown men get thrown many feat just by getting hit by a two thousand pound car skidding on it's breaks going maybe 30 ish. I think 50 ton range, by someone moving fast with the intent on hitting something should be able to send someone flying thru a mountain if that person is tuff enough for the impact not to splatter them. Am i wrong?

Through a mountian? Absolutely not
Unless that mountian was made of dominos

Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
Through a mountian? Absolutely not
Unless that mountian was made of dominos

Molly Hayes can punch through a mountain with 3 ton strength... 😖hifty:

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I tend to disagree. It depends on the density of the humanoid being tossed around. We know a bullet can pierce very thick stuff if it has enough force behind it, mainly becuz of it's relative size to what ever it's piercing. A human being would be much like a bullet to a mountain with enough force behind them, especially if they were dense enough, as is the DBZ fighters.

Just imagine if instead of the truck hitting the person, it just flies into the mountian. Trust me, its not going to get very far
Mt raineer here in washington state is humungous
Short of being an egg, it would literally require a nuclear missile to break the mountian apart, and they'red still be lots of mountian left

Storm has punched through a mountain/iceberg... 😖hifty:

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Storm has punched through a mountain/iceberg... 😖hifty:

you mischevious man
😆

You guys are hilarious. 😆

Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
Just imagine if instead of the truck hitting the person, it just flies into the mountian. Trust me, its not going to get very far
Mt raineer here in washington state is humungous
Short of being an egg, it would literally require a nuclear missile to break the mountian apart, and they'red still be lots of mountian left

Youa ren't thinking in terms of density of the object that is going thru the mountain or the speed, density, and purpose that the hitting object has. A super dense humanoid would literally be like a bullet shooting thru a door. It's not the force alone pushing the object thru, it's the density and momentum the object has and picks up becuz of it's density and projectory. it's well within reason for someone who can lift 100k to be able to punch a super dense person thru a mountain. Remember, hitting strength is usually greater than lifting strength.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Youa ren't thinking in terms of density of the object that is going thru the mountain or the speed, density, and purpose that the hitting object has. A super dense humanoid would literally be like a bullet shooting thru a door. It's not the force alone pushing the object thru, it's the density and momentum the object has and picks up becuz of it's density and projectory. it's well within reason for someone who can lift 100k to be able to punch a super dense person thru a mountain. Remember, hitting strength is usually greater than lifting strength.

Your absolutely right
I just dont think you realize how massive a mountian truely is. I am fortunate enough to live in a state with a nice landscape. If you even stand at the foot of the mountian, unable to see the summit, in awe of its sheer massiveness and then try to concieve a mere 50 ton object passing through this massive piece of earth, its simply not going to take place. A mountian is a truely, truely, truely massive object.

Um, nvr, you are aware that by increasing the velocity you also increase the force exerted, so the punches wouldn't land with 40-50 tons of force.

And also, for the punch to launch a being of roughly 300-400 lbs 1 km with enough force to level a mountain range...

Do the math guys. You and I both know your argument doesn't add up. So either they move really fast in order to exert enough force to pull this off (launching a 300-500 pound humanoid with enough velocity to crumble a mountain), they're strong enough to exert the force necessary, or they're insanely dense (meaning they'd have immense physical durability considering the way they've been shown to destroy landscapes by being launched by a 40-50 ton force punch into the earth). And if they are this dense, in order to move as quickly as they do considering how heavy they'd have to be in order to pull that off, they'd have to be immensely strong to maneuver so heavy a frame so quickly.

Either that or they are simply stronger than you guys are willing to give them credit for.

No one pointed out to me where in the manga Goku was 'punched through.' Nor where it said Butta could go lightspeed...

Also; I don't think I ever said they were class fifty/fourty/whatever.

Just significantly weaker than Superman/Hulk/Thor/Et cetera.

Soljer, whats your sig from? I seen that all over the place lately

Is this manga or anime Goku we're talking about? I've only seen the English dubbed cartoon on Toonami (I live in California) so I'm talking about Anime Goku. Is there that big a disparity in their feats (manga vs anime)?

Originally posted by Soljer
No. The surfer destroyed the planet.

And Thanos mentioned the Surfer's energy discharge being responsible for the black hole. Try actually READING the comic next time, rather than just looking at the pretty pictures.

No The Surfer did NOT destroy the planet, the both of them did that!

Surfer's energy was responsible for the Black Hole, And? What does that have to do with combat?

Super Buu wins by looking at Thanos.

Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
Soljer, whats your sig from? I seen that all over the place lately

Ask Quickshot - he made it for me. I really have no idea, I just think it looks cool.

To Ill - I'm referring to the Manga. I, and the majority of fans, consider it to be the primary source material.

There have been arguments (which you may have beared witness to) whether you should take the anime or manga as 'canon' over one another, but, unless otherwise specified, ANYTHING I say relating to DBZ is derived from the Manga - not the anime, and ESPECIALLY not Toei/Funimation's anime.

Originally posted by Soljer
Ask Quickshot - he made it for me. I really have no idea, I just think it looks cool.

To Ill - I'm referring to the Manga. I, and the majority of fans, consider it to be the primary source material.

There have been arguments (which you may have beared witness to) whether you should take the anime or manga as 'canon' over one another, but, unless otherwise specified, ANYTHING I say relating to DBZ is derived from the Manga - not the anime, and ESPECIALLY not Toei/Funimation's anime.

Oh, ok. That explains it. We're talking about 2 totally different characters (kind of). Like Cartoon Supes (S:AM, JL, JLU) vs. Comic Supes.

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I always thought it was the guy form Assassin's Creed in your sig.