Superman vs Mangog

Originally posted by h1a8
If there are forces to prevent it then it can. WW's lasso and Superman's aura can protect things.

Even if we accept the ridiculousness that a natural ground in comics can support an infinite weight and that Thor stood up against infinite weight then this would imply that both Thor has infinite strength and that no one is stronger. But since we know of some beings who are stronger then we reach a contradiction. And thus Thor wasn't lifting against infinite force.

Neither was stated in comics as being active. However, there was no catastrophic results on the surface (w/c is ridiculous). It was also never stated that the gravity weapon was preventing Thor from sinking into the ground but guess what? He wasn't sinking. You cannot prove nor disprove either. You're using a double standard in accepting one explanation and denying the other.

The point? I reiterate: It is retarded to use real world computations in comics.

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
did it say that wounder womans laso and superman's aura was protecting things? nah uh it didn't! provide proof that the lasso and superman's aura was protecting things. betcha you can't 😆

nah! thor has infinite strength! accept it! 😆 theres just different levels of infinite strength, same thing with the cosmic cube, ig and lt. they have different level's of infinite power. 😛

gotta love comic logic!

superman's aura protects stuff all the time.

Originally posted by -Pr-
superman's aura protects stuff all the time.

Except that we've never seen his aura protect anything from a very long range when he wasn't in contact with it (unless you've got scans to prove otherwise). He wasn't in direct contact with the planet when he pulled it. He was using either a GL construct or WW's lasso.

Originally posted by -Pr-
superman's aura protects stuff all the time.

when he's lifting it or in direct contact with it i believe.

unless its like tk now and can crawl all the way from space through the lasso and onto the earth

Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Except that we've never seen his aura protect anything from a very long range when he wasn't in contact with it (unless you've got scans to prove otherwise). He wasn't in direct contact with the planet when he pulled it. He was using either a GL construct or WW's lasso.

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
when he's lifting it or in direct contact with it i believe.

unless its like tk now and can crawl all the way from space through the lasso and onto the earth

oh, all right. i hadn't read that far back. yeah, he has to be in direct contact with it on some level.

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
when he's lifting it or in direct contact with it i believe.

unless its like tk now and can crawl all the way from space through the lasso and onto the earth

Beat you to it. 😛

Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Beat you to it. 😛

awwwwww! 🙁

😛

yeah, Superman has to have direct contact. Conner is the one that doesn't need to...

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
did it say that wounder womans laso and superman's aura was protecting things? nah uh it didn't! provide proof that the lasso and superman's aura was protecting things. betcha you can't 😆

nah! thor has infinite strength! accept it! 😆 theres just different levels of infinite strength, same thing with the cosmic cube, ig and lt. they have different level's of infinite power. 😛

gotta love comic logic!

The lasso is magic so that means we can throw real science out of the window. Thus it is moot of how the Earth was protected.

Thor doesn't have infinite strength and neither does the scan prove it.
If Thor had infinite strength then everyone in the MU would have infinite strength. This can be shown by the following logic:

Nefaria stopped Thor's hammer strike thus he has infinite strength.
But Nefaria couldn't stop a 90ton vision from landing on him. Thus 90 tons is infinite. But a fraction of infinity is still infinity. Thus everyone has infinite strength.

Thor struggled "Arggh" to crush coal into a diamond with his infinite strength. Thus it takes infinite strength to crush coal into a diamond.
But since it takes finite strength to do the same then a fraction of this finite strength is still infinity and thus everyone has infinite strength.

Infinite strength implies infinite physical durability. Otherwise one couldn't support infinite force pressing on their body. So since a bullet harmed Thor (and other finite forces) once then the bullet had infinite force on it. But since a bullet has finite force then a fraction of this finite force is still infinite. Thus everyone can exert an infinite force.

I can go on and on with this nonsense.

Originally posted by -Pr-
yeah, Superman has to have direct contact. Conner is the one that doesn't need to...

hey pr

how r u

Originally posted by h1a8
The lasso is magic so that means we can throw real science out of the window. Thus it is moot of how the Earth was protected.

Thor doesn't have infinite strength and neither does the scan prove it.
If Thor had infinite strength then everyone in the MU would have infinite strength. This can be shown by the following logic:

Nefaria stopped Thor's hammer strike thus he has infinite strength.
But Nefaria couldn't stop a 90ton vision from landing on him. Thus 90 tons is infinite. But a fraction of infinity is still infinity. Thus everyone has infinite strength.

Thor struggled "Arggh" to crush coal into a diamond with his infinite strength. Thus it takes infinite strength to crush coal into a diamond.
But since it takes finite strength to do the same then a fraction of this finite strength is still infinity and thus everyone has infinite strength.

Infinite strength implies infinite physical durability. Otherwise one couldn't support infinite force pressing on their body. So since a bullet harmed Thor (and other finite forces) once then the bullet had infinite force on it. But since a bullet has finite force then a fraction of this finite force is still infinite. Thus everyone can exert an infinite force.

I can go on and on with this nonsense.

we all know the lasso is magical but as far as i'm aware of it can

1. make people tell the truth
2. make people follow or obey wonder woman
3. is unbreakable
4. am i forgetting anything?...oh yeah right! according to you it can now project protective shields and surround any object it its wrapped around and protect it from harm! WOW I DIDNT KNOW THAT!... 😛
does anybody else know that?

and again, your trying to use real world logic in comics. lets use some of it shall we. flash can move at the speed of light, but a lot of his villains have no superspeed yet they can tag flash very often, this must mean that everyone who has hit flash has lightspeed speed.

superman has insane durability can can tank planet busting punches yet is knocked out by a gas station, this must mean that gas station explosions in dc has more force than a planet busting explosion. superman has also been hurt by lesser characters, hell even batman got to hurt superman. this must mean that batman and every other villain whos hurt superman has strength comparable to superrmans...

i can go on with such garbage using your logic

Originally posted by guy222
hey pr

how r u

hey man. im ok, waiting to get paid. hows things?

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
we all know the lasso is magical but as far as i'm aware of it can

1. make people tell the truth
2. make people follow or obey wonder woman
3. is unbreakable
4. am i forgetting anything?...oh yeah right! according to you it can now project protective shields and surround any object it its wrapped around and protect it from harm! WOW I DIDNT KNOW THAT!... 😛
does anybody else know that?

and again, your trying to use real world logic in comics. lets use some of it shall we. flash can move at the speed of light, but a lot of his villains have no superspeed yet they can tag flash very often, this must mean that everyone who has hit flash has lightspeed speed.

superman has insane durability can can tank planet busting punches yet is knocked out by a gas station, this must mean that gas station explosions in dc has more force than a planet busting explosion. superman has also been hurt by lesser characters, hell even batman got to hurt superman. this must mean that batman and every other villain whos hurt superman has strength comparable to superrmans...

i can go on with such garbage using your logic

the gas station was a much weaker superman.

Gas station explosions are probably more powerful than a bullet, or a falling wooden mast.

Probably.

Originally posted by -Pr-
hey man. im ok, waiting to get paid. hows things?

the gas station was a much weaker superman.

indeed

Originally posted by Spire
Gas station explosions are probably more powerful than a bullet, or a falling wooden mast.

Probably.

of course it is, it has the force of a planet busting punch...

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
of course it is, it has the force of a planet busting punch...

At the very least.

However I do think a sledgehammer or getting knocked off a build by Thing ranks slightly higher, if not completely higher.

If Thor beat Mangog in a str8 up fight, then Superman can too. If he used plot devices, Then Superman would have to too.

Originally posted by Spire
At the very least.

However I do think a sledgehammer or getting knocked off a build by Thing ranks slightly higher, if not completely higher.

i think he sledgehammer ranks the highest

Originally posted by h1a8
The lasso is magic so that means we can throw real science out of the window. Thus it is moot of how the Earth was protected.

Thor doesn't have infinite strength and neither does the scan prove it.
If Thor had infinite strength then everyone in the MU would have infinite strength. This can be shown by the following logic:

Nefaria stopped Thor's hammer strike thus he has infinite strength.
But Nefaria couldn't stop a 90ton vision from landing on him. Thus 90 tons is infinite. But a fraction of infinity is still infinity. Thus everyone has infinite strength.

Thor struggled "Arggh" to crush coal into a diamond with his infinite strength. Thus it takes infinite strength to crush coal into a diamond.
But since it takes finite strength to do the same then a fraction of this finite strength is still infinity and thus everyone has infinite strength.

Infinite strength implies infinite physical durability. Otherwise one couldn't support infinite force pressing on their body. So since a bullet harmed Thor (and other finite forces) once then the bullet had infinite force on it. But since a bullet has finite force then a fraction of this finite force is still infinite. Thus everyone can exert an infinite force.

I can go on and on with this nonsense.

Originally posted by h1a8
The lasso is magic so that means we can throw real science out of the window. Thus it is moot of how the Earth was protected.

However, based on your own argument, the "magical nature" of the lasso ALSO makes the pulling feat moot as its "magical nature" means we cannot use real world science in estimating the amount of force needed to pull the planet due to the fact that the "magical nature" of the lasso may have also negated the other fundamental forces that may have been affecting the Earth at the time.

Meaning that if magic protected the Earth's surface from the effects of them pulling the planet (w/c takes a WHOLE LOT more than actually pulling it), then it may have also negated the gravitational forces in play on the planet. Having a magical variable in the equation throws out your whole "computation" altogether.

Check and mate...