Superman vs Mangog

Started by -Pr-53 pages

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
i can post his 1st appearance (probably most of his appearances if i'm not lazy) and its up to you to decide if its spite or not...

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/3553/thor15520.jpg
http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/1278/thor15408.jpg
http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/7717/thor15420.jpg
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/3513/thor15511.jpg
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/8235/thor15512.jpg
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/7684/thor15512q.jpg
http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/2290/thor15513.jpg
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/305/thor15514.jpg

how old is that?

Originally posted by -Pr-
how old is that?

I can see where this is going...🙄

Originally posted by -Pr-
how old is that?

What does it matter?

Mangog wins.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
What does it matter?

i just wondered if there was anything more recent, that's all.

Originally posted by -Pr-
i just wondered if there was anything more recent, that's all.

There is. Though that appearance isn't particularly impressive. He's just fighting random Asgardians.

Thor 249-250 comes to mind, his return.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
There is. Though that appearance isn't particularly impressive. He's just fighting random Asgardians.

Thor 249-250 comes to mind, his return.

that's all i asked.

those are nice scans, but even thor has come a long way since then.

what feats does the guy have? is there a respect thread?

Originally posted by -Pr-
that's all i asked.

those are nice scans, but even thor has come a long way since then.

what feats does the guy have? is there a respect thread?

pretty old, his most recent and last appearance i think was when RKT used is rune magic on mangog turning him to nothingness.

anyway, here's the next part. i'll post the rest of the arc once i finish uploading.

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/5420/thor15618.jpg
http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/8777/thor15601.jpg
http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/8744/thor15602.jpg
http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/2414/thor15603.jpg
http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/8821/thor15604m.jpg
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/1461/thor15605.jpg
http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/9881/thor15608.jpg
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/3237/thor15609.jpg
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/8590/thor15610.jpg
http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/9184/thor15611.jpg
http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/3488/thor15615.jpg
http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/4154/thor15616.jpg
http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/6689/thor15617.jpg

Why is it that all Thor fans/supporters all post scans from the lates 70-90? HELLO!!! We are in the 21st Cen

here's the rest of this fight

http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/7122/thor15719.jpg
http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/5159/thor15702j.jpg
http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/8452/thor15705.jpg
http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/7365/thor15706.jpg
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/8174/thor15707.jpg
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/5558/thor15708.jpg
http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/2012/thor15709.jpg
http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/8384/thor15710.jpg
http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/3392/thor15711.jpg
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/5850/thor15712.jpg
http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/2492/thor15715.jpg
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/8087/thor15716.jpg
http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/6066/thor15717.jpg
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/6972/thor15718.jpg

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Why is it that all Thor fans/supporters all post scans from the lates 70-90? HELLO!!! We are in the 21st Cen

if you didn't notice, i said i'd be posting mangog's appearances from his first ever onward...

here's mangog's next appearance

http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/5980/thor19818.jpg
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/7597/thor19512.jpg
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/6982/thor19513.jpg
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/9572/thor19718.jpg
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/7991/thor19719.jpg
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/3708/thor19720.jpg
http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/6825/thor19721.jpg
http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/4408/thor19800fc.jpg
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/2880/thor19801.jpg
http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/6672/thor19802.jpg
http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/1522/thor19803.jpg
http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/8065/thor19804.jpg
http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/6125/thor19805.jpg
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/3843/thor19806.jpg
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/5267/thor19807.jpg
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/4368/thor19808.jpg
http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/3301/thor19809.jpg
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/7263/thor19814.jpg
http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/4809/thor19815.jpg
http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/2702/thor19816.jpg
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/3017/thor19817.jpg

edit.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
stop making stuff up. 17,000 is too low for starters, and the velocity isn't constant since not only does the air get thinner but once you get nearer to orbit earth's grip on you isn't as strong.

your math is arbitrary since it's just guessing, just stick with the fact that thor has done the same thing to harold jaekolson, whom is far stronger than lobo (and he was ko'd) so....... you can call it even if "teh steel doors" are that important to you. though they shouldn't be given superman's strength amirite? or is steel a problem for him iyo?

thor and superman on average are pretty much the same strength wise, whatever feat you want to bring up, thor has one just like it.

give it a rest.

No! In the absence of all air resistance escape velocity is about 17,000 miles per hour. This is one of the first physics problems everyone must be able to do when they learn about gravitational potential energy (first semester physics).

Right now I'm doing serious research and so far have made several discoveries. This research deals with real projectile motion (using wind resistance, atmosphere pressure, variable gravity, etc.) This is very complicated stuff. I'll post a little something a little later giving those who are very much mathematically inclined an approximate of how much force it takes to send a humanoid being into low orbit.

With that said, yes Thor sent someone into orbit which proves his strength is at least in the millions of tons. But Superman not only did it to a character that weighs 3 times more but he sent Lobo through 2 highly durable and highly thick metal walls of an advanced alien ship. Punching someone into orbit where they still have enough velocity in the end to go through two thick and stronger than steel metal walls is some truly sick 'shyte'.

Originally posted by rotiart
Where does the tons come into the math? If at a tangent you have to hit 11km/s to hit escape velocity.

Please show me any kind of an equation. Btw if you can I'll be pulling out my physics and calculus books to double check your math. All I'm asking is for you to show that a object going into orbit has some type of correlation with lifting weight.

Are you considering lbs of thrust like for a rocket when calculating your "math"
or be honest and say you pulle the number out of the air... And while high, you have no idea what his strength is

heck I'll even do the math. Provide the equation with the variables and constants you applied

If would have to pull out more than your calculus texts to understand the math of real projectile motion. It is some very complicated stuff. Differential Equations is a must! I will see if I can accommodate you though. Maybe I'll send an attachment to you of some of the math (rough approximation stuff).

Originally posted by D_Dude1210
The problem with you is that you STILL don't realize that the fact that the GL ring/Magic is present means that there is an unknown number within the equation that may/can affect ANY/ALL variables, and thus the true number can't be quantified.
These things never happened. It is fantasy. That means the only thing that exists is what the writer portrayed or the stuff that can be deduced from this portrayal. Saying that there could have been unknown variables present is false since they aren't portrayed, mentioned, or can be deduced. Even so, F=MA is always true no matter what is going on. That is because it takes A FORCE to accelerate any massive object. F=MA is the minimum of the force. Think about it. Can someone accelerate an object without using any force on it?

If I'm wrong then I challenge you to make up an mysterious variable (or force) that shows that it took less than MA to move the planet. Explain the variable or force carefully and use good reason to show that it is possible to move a planet at acceleration A using less than MA force on it.

Sigh. You completely fail to understand my post. You saying that with 200 quintillion tons, Superman SHOULDN'T be sinking??

"Common sense". Riiiiight...

It is not common sense. Who knows what the properties of that ground was. What is common sense is that no destructible surface is able to hold infinite weight.


Superman WAS in team (him and GL), and you completely failed to disprove my analogy... :-/

Also, because Superman SAYS so makes it true, correct? Well, the alien says infinite.... see the fallacy of your argument?


The thing is that the alien's comment leads to a contradiction. Superman's comment doesn't. Now if it didn't then it is ok to take what the alien said as the truth.

If Superman was in team (as in the pulling) then how would he feel Starbreaker's pull vs. just feeling the plain inertial resistance of the Earth?

Originally posted by h1a8
No! In the absence of all air resistance escape velocity is about 17,000 miles per hour. This is one of the first physics problems everyone must be able to do when they learn about gravitational potential energy (first semester physics).

Right now I'm doing serious research and so far have made several discoveries. This research deals with real projectile motion (using wind resistance, atmosphere pressure, variable gravity, etc.) This is very complicated stuff. I'll post a little something a little later giving those who are very much mathematically inclined an approximate of how much force it takes to send a humanoid being into low orbit.

from www.newworldencyclopedia.org

escape velocity = 11.2km/s or 6.96m/s neglecting air resistance

6.96m/s roughly = to 25,000m/hr
11.2km/s roughly = to 40,000km/hr

from www.physlink.com

escape velocity = 11.1km/s neglecting air resistance

11.1km/s roughly = to 40,000km/hr

either these guys are lying or your making things up

that's a double standard, you can't just give superman's "infinite magic book" (with help i must add) lifting feat a pass and say thor's feat where a kronan used a scientific devise to simulate "infinite weight" is bs.

if the two weights were equal (cause nobody knows just how much stress these two feats placed the heroes under), it'dbe fair to assume thor's was more "impressive" since it was on his lonesome.

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
f=ma
True

and

a=change in velocity/t

True but this is the wrong equation of 'a' to use since we don't know time and do know the distance of acceleration (not what you think). We must use a= (Vf^2 -Vi^2)/(2d) where d is the distance Superman's arms accelerate in the delivery the blow. Vf is the final velocity obtained at the end of the punch swing and Vi is the initial velocity at the beginning of the swing (which is 0). Now this is a collision/momentum problem which proves that it takes even more force so we neglect it and assume that it took Superman about 2 meters to accelerate Lobo to escape velocity (I guess your 11 100m/s).
So F=ma
= m(Vf^2-Vi^2)/(2d)

= 725.75kg(11,100^2m^2/s^2-0)/(2*2m)

= 22 354 914 375N

=2 512 792tons of force (So in the millions of tons)

But adding in air resistance and the fact that Lobo went through two thick and highly durable metal walls makes the feat totally astronomical.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Why is it that all Thor fans/supporters all post scans from the lates 70-90? HELLO!!! We are in the 21st Cen
Because they are canon to his character. You don't read Thor anyways.