Sephiroth vs. Shin Akuma

Started by BlaxicanHydra20 pages

That's the third time you've said you were done. Do you mean it this time?

"i can go through all your 8400 posts and find a typo"

You could go through ALL of my posts and find a typo.. meaning that if you looked through all of my posts you would find at least one in each post. Get busy, then. I want to see if you're right. You've been wrong on all your other accounts so far.

^ I didn't mean find a typo in every post. I meant go through your posts, looking for a typo.

You act like you make no typos and because i made one, you say i have an inablity to spell, does it make you feel superior?

The point i was trying to make is, i can find a typo in your posts too, then say you have an inability to spell just like you did.

So don't go around telling people they have an inability to spell because they spelled one word wrong unless you are Mr. Perfect-no-typo, which i have proven you are not.

I never said anything about typo's.. just not forming complete sentences. Are you "done with me" this time?

This a forum not an essay class, complete sentences are not always made.
Like i said earlier, alot of your posts arent complete sentences either, sometimes they are just one word replies.

Thats why you should not pick on people because they didn't make a complete sentence, it's a forum.. to pick on people for that is either out of desperation, or just being pathetic.

And yes, i am done with you.

Are you officially done with me, or like, sort of done with me?

Originally posted by Terryc250
^ what do u mean? What does the destruction other planets have anything to do with cloud? The supernova doesnt hit cloud it hits other planets.

And what do u mean by he cant take a sword to the shoulder? He took it, pulled it out and continued fighting like it was nothing. Are u trying to say that the sword shouldnt have cut him? Its a legendary sword that cuts basically through anything.

So if the supernova doesn't hit Cloud then why does he get damaged? True, he was able to continue fighting after being stabbed in the shoulder, but the blade pierced him, do you see what I'm saying? If Seph can destroy planets why doesn't he do it in AC? Also how did Cloud and friends beat this planet destroying God you think Seph is?

Originally posted by Terryc250
"Well.. on the one hand you talkabout wierd things like a ghey dumbass who likes reach arounds, but on the other hand you have excellent vocabulary."

There, a couple mispellings AND improper grammer, just cause you said please.

YAY! THAT WAS SAID TO ME!

V2D why bother?

Why not?

Yeah, why not?

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
So if the supernova doesn't hit Cloud then why does he get damaged? True, he was able to continue fighting after being stabbed in the shoulder, but the blade pierced him, do you see what I'm saying? If Seph can destroy planets why doesn't he do it in AC? Also how did Cloud and friends beat this planet destroying God you think Seph is?

The actual supernova comet thing doesnt hit cloud, if it did, then the whole planet would blow up, which is not what sephiroth wanted.

Why would he destroy earth in AC? He didn't want to do it in the game, and even in the movie he stated he wanted to use the planet as a vessel. You got to start reading my previous posts, i said already that it was not his purpose, you apparantly havent even finished the game, or paid attention to the movie.

Also how did Cloud and friends beat this planet destroying God you think Seph is?

i dunno depends how u played? I beat sephiroth by using lots of strong magic, summons, and limit breaks..

Originally posted by Superboy Prime
V2D why bother?

Thats what i'm wondering, because you haven't really got anywhere with what you're trying to prove..

Give me some proof that the single summon supernova is an illusion while the rest are real, and u've got something, if it's just your assumption with no basis of proof at all then you have nothing.

Originally posted by Terryc250
The actual supernova comet thing doesnt hit cloud, if it did, then the whole planet would blow up, which is not what sephiroth wanted.

Why would he destroy earth in AC? He didn't want to do it in the game, and even in the movie he stated he wanted to use the planet as a vessel. You got to start reading my previous posts, i said already that it was not his purpose, you apparantly havent even finished the game, or paid attention to the movie.

i dunno depends how u played? I beat sephiroth by using lots of strong magic, summons, and limit breaks..

You continue to prove your ignorance, and don't accuse me of not playing the game because your a friggin fanboy. So he has the power to destroy a Solar System, but can't kill a small party of people. I also love how you avoided one of my questions, if Supernova never hits Cloud and friends then why do they take damage? f he can indeed release enough energy to destroy solar systems, then why is it he can't release enough to kill Cloud and friends?

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
You continue to prove your ignorance, and don't accuse me of not playing the game because your a friggin fanboy. So he has the power to destroy a Solar System, but can't kill a small party of people. I also love how you avoided one of my questions, if Supernova never hits Cloud and friends then why do they take damage? f he can indeed release enough energy to destroy solar systems, then why is it he can't release enough to kill Cloud and friends?

Haha i can see you're getting defensive, i'm ignorant? Just because i do not believe in your base-less "theory" that supernova is an illusion because you have no proof whatsoever, it doesn't mean im ignorant, it just means i dont believe things without real facts.

If you have actually seen the summon, you would see that you are above the earth, in the sky somewhere, and once the supernova hits the sun, the sun expands, causing the heat to harm your party.

If vegeta was able to destroy planets, why couldn't he release enough power to destroy goku?

Originally posted by Terryc250
Haha i can see you're getting defensive, i'm ignorant? Just because i do not believe in your base-less "theory" that supernova is an illusion because you have no proof whatsoever, it doesn't mean im ignorant, it just means i dont believe things without real facts.

If you have actually seen the summon, you would see that you are above the earth, in the sky somewhere, and once the supernova hits the sun, the sun expands, causing the heat to harm your party.

If vegeta was able to destroy planets, why couldn't he release enough power to destroy goku?

Oh, so now you think Cloud and friends can take the heat from the sun, wow, just wow. I say it's either A. An illusion or B. Noncanon because Cloud and friends can be killed by as little as a bullet or swordslash, let alone the heat from the sun. Oh, and sorry if I forgot about how the attack actually works, I haven't played the game in a very long time. Guess what? Vegeta can take planet destroying blasts mane. Frieza took one when he was already half dead, and Vegeta in DBZ right now is MUCH stronger than Frieza. You phail.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Oh, so now you think Cloud and friends can take the heat from the sun, wow, just wow. I say it's either A. An illusion or B. Noncanon because Cloud and friends can be killed by as little as a bullet or swordslash, let alone the heat from the sun. Oh, and sorry if I forgot about how the attack actually works, I haven't played the game in a very long time. Guess what? Vegeta can take planet destroying blasts mane. Frieza took one when he was already half dead, and Vegeta in DBZ right now is MUCH stronger than Frieza. You phail.

They can't take a sword slash from the masamune nope, but they get slashed by normal enemies all the time during the game, they take bullets all the time, in advent children, Cloud took a bullet straight to the head and shrugged it off.

Vegeta can take planet destroying blasts? Frieza pwned him with a finger laser during the Frieza saga. Plz don't say that finger laser has the capability to blow up a planet.

So you're saying when Vegeta first arrived on earth, Goku's body is more tougher then a whole planet? Because before vegeta arrived on earth he blew up that alien planet like nothing.

Ill tell you again, things in video games dont make perfect logic if you compare it with reality, but it does not mean everything that doesn't make perfect lifelike sense is an illusion.

Originally posted by Terryc250
They can't take a sword slash from the masamune nope, but they get slashed by normal enemies all the time during the game, they take bullets all the time, in advent children, Cloud took a bullet straight to the head and shrugged it off.

Vegeta can take planet destroying blasts? Frieza pwned him with a finger laser during the Frieza saga. Plz don't say that finger laser has the capability to blow up a planet.

So you're saying when Vegeta first arrived on earth, Goku's body is more tougher then a whole planet? Because before vegeta arrived on earth he blew up that alien planet like nothing.

Ill tell you again, things in video games dont make perfect logic if you compare it with reality, but it does not mean everything that doesn't make perfect lifelike sense is an illusion.

You really aren't reading my posts are you? Seph can get cut by a normal sword, as shown when he got stabbed by Cloud with the Buster Sword(which is only big, there is nothing to suggest there is anything it's magic or Legendary like Masamune). As for Cloud taking a bullet to the head, are you talking about the end of AC? Cause Cloud died and was revived by Aeris. Also, I just found a way to crush your Supernova argument. During the fight Seph can use it more than once, right? Well, how is it that every time he uses it it's the same amount of planets being destroyed? If the move was real wouldn't those planets be gone? Exactly, it's either an illusion or it's not even canon. Oh, and dude, Vegeta at the end of DBZ is far stronger than he was when he fought Frieza, duh. Frieza survived Namek's explosion despite already being blown in half, with one arm, and after taking a debilitating blast from Goku. Vegetaa and Goku are now stronger than Frieza in their normal forms, let alone their SSJ levels.

I hate discussing gameplay mechanics.

But you just can't stop yourself from crushing those who believe gameplay is good for debates, huh? You jackass! thumbsupdur

I win. There is no semi intelligent argument he can come up with to disprove me.thumbsup

Originally posted by Superboy Prime
He merely described gameplay mechanics. If that made you have a hard-on fine by me, but it takes more than that to convince me, sorry.
Explain to me then why you'd say Squall can become invincible with Heroes if it's just a gameplay mechanic. This is basically like saying the Storm of the Heavenly Dragon is an impossible move that only occurs in-game, and that's also like saying Hayabusa's speed in-game is also an impossible factor since he doesn't move quite as fast in cutscenes, and it's as if saying he can't run on water since he's only done it in gameplay. In addition that's like stating Bahamut Zero's Terra Flare and Eden's summon are bs game mechanics since they don't utterly destroy the area where the battle's taking place or even the party in gameplay, when these attacks are obviously enough to nuke an area on the planet. The fact that Cloud and the party do not get vaporized by the Supernova is quite obviously the bs gameplay mechanic, not the summon itself.
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
So if the supernova doesn't hit Cloud then why does he get damaged? True, he was able to continue fighting after being stabbed in the shoulder, but the blade pierced him, do you see what I'm saying? If Seph can destroy planets why doesn't he do it in AC? Also how did Cloud and friends beat this planet destroying God you think Seph is?
He gets damaged because it's a destructive attack. Dude, every single attack done by an enemy in a Final Fantasy game (Hell, any kind of game, Tekken, Street Fighter, Legend of Zelda, Ninja Gaiden, Kingdom Hearts, Halo etc.) will not cause a scratch on the player. Typically game designers aren't interested in making cuts and bruises appear on the main characters when they get slashed in spots on their bodies. They simply lose health points and die when their HP reach 0. The answer to the question why doesn't Sephiroth destroy planets in AC is because he wasn't Seifer Sephiroth, and the reason S.S. did not do the Supernova summon is because he was stopped before hand. How am I convinced by this? In FFX, The Final Aeon's overdrive is a friggin meteorite that it catches and throws at the party, devastating the entire area they're battling on. You would think that in a cutscene they would at least die by the attack. It doesn't happen in gameplay where durability is commonly bullshit. Discounting S.S's Supernova is ignoring all other summons in the Final Fantasy verse.
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
You continue to prove your ignorance, and don't accuse me of not playing the game because your a friggin fanboy. So he has the power to destroy a Solar System, but can't kill a small party of people. I also love how you avoided one of my questions, if Supernova never hits Cloud and friends then why do they take damage? f he can indeed release enough energy to destroy solar systems, then why is it he can't release enough to kill Cloud and friends?
These questions of your's are getting repetitive. Dude, do you really think that just because Sephiroth lost to the party he isn't capable of killing them? Pretty much in all situations where the protagonist(s) are fighting the main villain their chances of victory are much lower than that of the main villain's. The damage deal and why they seem to not get hurt, destroyed, etc. have been addressed. It hits them, and they lose a shit load of damage points as expected. When the Supernova is near you see the entire party turning red as an indication that their actually is a huge ball of plasma coming at them. We know the bs durability + damage points deal.
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
You really aren't reading my posts are you? Seph can get cut by a normal sword, as shown when he got stabbed by Cloud with the Buster Sword(which is only big, there is nothing to suggest there is anything it's magic or Legendary like Masamune). As for Cloud taking a bullet to the head, are you talking about the end of AC? Cause Cloud died and was revived by Aeris. Also, I just found a way to crush your Supernova argument. During the fight Seph can use it more than once, right? Well, how is it that every time he uses it it's the same amount of planets being destroyed? If the move was real wouldn't those planets be gone? Exactly, it's either an illusion or it's not even canon. Oh, and dude, Vegeta at the end of DBZ is far stronger than he was when he fought Frieza, duh. Frieza survived Namek's explosion despite already being blown in half, with one arm, and after taking a debilitating blast from Goku. Vegetaa and Goku are now stronger than Frieza in their normal forms, let alone their SSJ levels.
Bahamut Zero nukes the battlefield from space several times in-game and the battlefield still seems fine. Final Aeon nukes the area where he's fought in numerous times yet said battlefield seems perfectly fine in-game. Eden can nuke an area of some other planet countless times with that planet only to seem new again so that Eden can nuke it again. The planet S.S. destroys just appear again for the same reason, so that the summon can be performed again. Parties don't get destroyed or cut, vaporized, etc. so that they can keep on fighting. All of these things are the actual bs in gameplay and not the summons in Final Fantasy which are obviously not.

Originally posted by Guilty Gear
Explain to me then why you'd say Squall can become invincible with Heroes if it's just a gameplay mechanic. This is basically like saying the Storm of the Heavenly Dragon is an impossible move that only occurs in-game, and that's also like saying Hayabusa's speed in gameplay is also an impossible factor. In addition it's also like stating Bahamut Zero's Terra Flare and Eden's summon are bs game mechanics since they don't utterly destroy the area where the battle's taking place or even the party in gameplay, when these attacks are obviously enough to nuke an area on the planet. The fact that Cloud and the party do not get vaporized by the Supernova is quite obviously the bs gameplay mechanic, not the summon itself.
He gets damaged because it's a destructive attack. Dude, every single attack done by an enemy in a Final Fantasy game (Hell, any kind of game, Tekken, Street Fighter, Legend of Zelda, Ninja Gaiden, Kingdom Hearts, Halo etc.) will not cause a scratch on the player. Typically game designers aren't interested in making cuts and bruises appear on the main characters when they get slashed in spots on their bodies. They simply lose health points and die when their HP reach 0. The answer to the question why doesn't Sephiroth destroy planets in AC is because he wasn't Seifer Sephiroth, and the reason S.S. did not do the Supernova summon is because he was stopped before hand. How am I convinced by this? In FFX, The Final Aeon's overdrive is a friggin meteorite that it catches and throws at the party, devastating the entire area they're battling on. You would think that in a cutscene they would at least die by the attack. It doesn't happen in gameplay where durability is commonly bullshit. Discounting S.S's Supernova is ignoring all other summons in the Final Fantasy verse.
These questions of your's are getting repetitive. Dude, do you really think that just because Sephiroth lost to the party he isn't capable of killing them? Pretty much in all situations where the protagonist(s) are fighting the main villain their chances of victory are much lower than that of the main villain's. The damage deal and why they seem to not get hurt, destroyed, etc. have been addressed. It hits them, and they lose a shit load of damage points as expected. When the Supernova is near you see the entire party turning red as an indication that their actually is a huge ball of plasma coming at them. We know the bs durability + damage points deal.
Bahamut Zero nukes the battlefield from space several times in-game and the battlefield still seems fine. Final Aeon nukes the area where he's fought in numerous times yet said battlefield seems perfectly fine in-game. Eden can nuke an area of some other planet countless times with that planet only to seem new again so that Eden can nuke it again. The planet S.S. destroys just appear again for the same reason, so that the summon can be performed again. Parties don't get destroyed or cut, vaporized, etc. so that they can keep on fighting. All of these things are the actual bs in gameplay and not the summons in Final Fantasy which are obviously not.
So you really think Seph uses the heat of the sun against the party, who can be killed by bullets or swords. Gameplay does a lot of bullshit stuff, fact. Why do you think we judge by feats, cutscenes, and other canon sources? Really I have neither the time nor the patience to adress every point in this word quilt of a post.