Mixed Genre & Comic Tier Reference Guide

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
First off, no. Those are NOT NUKES. 😐 They're EXPLOSIONS. A nuke, or atomic bomb blast, is the blast created by an [b]atom bomb. mariofacepalm

Also, Bowser survives being in a black hole in Mario Galaxy. 😐 Goku would be destroyed. haermm
...durlaugh Omg, please tell me you're not actually going to argue that? [/B]

How old are you?

The blast alone had the power equal to that of a nuke or atomic bomb.

Again, show me someone taking all of what Goku took in a fight and still stand and WIN.

I dont care about someone flying in black hole. Learn what the word BEATING mean.

Originally posted by -Pr-
that's not THAT impressive, tbh.

Show me someone taking ALL of this in one fight and still stand.

Originally posted by carver9
Show me someone taking ALL of this in one fight and still stand.

superman has taken planets exploding, for instance. that > most of what you described combined.

hell, even DOS would stack up well against what you just mentioned.

thor and surfer have some nice durability feats too.

Originally posted by carver9
How old are you?

The blast alone had the power equal to that of a nuke or atomic bomb.

Again, show me someone taking all of what Goku took in a fight and still stand and WIN.

I dont care about someone flying in black hole. Learn what the word BEATING mean.

Uhuh. Nothing impressive. 😐

How about Superman and Thor have taken WORSE in a fight, still stood, and won. 😐 Bowser's taken worse, and lost, but wasn't KO'd 😐

Beating: Something that is FAR less dangerous than a black hole, especially when administered from a DBZ character.

Originally posted by -Pr-
superman has taken planets exploding, for instance. that > most of what you described combined.

hell, even DOS would stack up well against what you just mentioned.

thor and surfer have some nice durability feats too.

Two different types of durability feats. Superman, Thor, and Surfer might have taken those things but when they get into fist cuffs they seem to get koed.

You cant blunt force trama to them tanking blast.

Originally posted by carver9
Two different types of durability feats. Superman, Thor, and Surfer might have taken those things but when they get into fist cuffs they seem to get koed.

You cant blunt force trama to them tanking blast.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Was gonna ask you the same question, you can't differentiate between. "big boom1!1" and "Nuke1!11". 😐

Uhuh. Nothing impressive. 😐

How about Superman and Thor have taken WORSE in a fight, still stood, and won. 😐 Bowser's taken worse, and lost, but wasn't KO'd 😐

Beating: Something that is FAR less dangerous than a black hole, especially when administered from a DBZ character.

Show me Superman or Thor taking all of that in a fight.

Blunt force trama; look it up.

Please dont let me name all of the fist that has dropped them.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
No they don't. And when they do its because the beings they fight are vastly stronger than the likes of Frieza who's physical strength isn't even superior to Colossus's if even equal at all.

Naah, how about Wolverine being stronger than frieza.

Originally posted by carver9
Two different types of durability feats. Superman, Thor, and Surfer might have taken those things but when they get into fist cuffs they seem to get koed.

You cant blunt force trama to them tanking blast.

they get into fisticuffs against beings that hit with the kind of strength they possess. you think just because doomsday never shattered a planet on panel that he can't do it? he was strong enough to nearly kill a superman that could lift millions of tons. superman's durability is comparable to his strength. that means doomsday's strength must be impressive if he's going to beat him.

durability is durability. it doesn't change unless you have a specific weakness to something.

a planet exploding is blunt force trauma as well as energy release.

Originally posted by carver9
Naah, how about Wolverine being stronger than frieza.

Originally posted by carver9
Show me Superman or Thor taking all of that in a fight.

Blunt force trama; look it up.

Please dont let me name all of the fist that has dropped them.

Blunt force Trauma, high energy impact over a large surface area. Not unlike being crushed in a blackhole, except that a blackhole is a million times stronger than Freiza, minimum. By no exaggeration.

Please don't make me name the millions of comic book characters above the entire DBZverse? 😐

An atomic blast or a nuke is a type of explosion, not a measure of power. different atomic or nuclear blasts can have different levels of power.

The bomb that was dropped on hiroshima was about 15kt, which is nothing compared to the 25mt bombs we have today.

http://media.smashingmagazine.com/cdn_smash/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/nuclear-bomb.gif

And if BEATING someone is more impressive than taking the damage a black hole can take... well the person who holds such a position really isn't worth talking to imo.

As Jubilee could beat several hand ninja back when she had her pafs. Nothing really impressive there.

The gravitational forces of not one but two black holes? Now that is some impressive damage soak.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
How about I just go look for a scan of Thor fighting Rulk, Hulk, Thanos, Surfer, Juggernaut, ect, All MILES above Freiza in physical strength?

Blunt force Trauma, high energy impact over a large surface area. Not unlike being crushed in a blackhole, except that a blackhole is [b]a million times stronger than Freiza, minimum. By no exaggeration.

Please don't make me name the millions of comic book characters above the entire DBZverse? 😐 [/B]

Thor got stomped by Rulk. Thor didnt go through anything CLOSE to what Goku went through during his fight with Frieza, Thor got stomped by Juggernaut, Thanos two shotted him.

Goku has tanked similar blast.

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb6/Enteithegreat/Kang%20the%20Conqueror/ConquersEarth8.jpg
http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb6/Enteithegreat/Kang%20the%20Conqueror/ConquersEarth9.jpg
http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb6/Enteithegreat/HoloblastWMThor.jpg

Goku has tanked these blast without any problem.

http://s388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/?action=view&current=ThorvsInitiative01Siege1.jpg
http://s388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/?action=view&current=ThorvsInitiative02.jpg

Originally posted by -Pr-
they get into fisticuffs against beings that hit with the kind of strength they possess. you think just because doomsday never shattered a planet on panel that he can't do it? he was strong enough to nearly kill a superman that could lift millions of tons. superman's durability is comparable to his strength. that means doomsday's strength must be impressive if he's going to beat him.

durability is durability. it doesn't change unless you have a specific weakness to something.

a planet exploding is blunt force trauma as well as energy release.

Goku has fought against beings that possess his same strength and withstood EVERYTHING that they threw at him.

I'm not saying that they are weak but when they are fighting PEERS, they cant stand up on their feat like Goku can when he is fighting his peers.

Thor got stomped by Rulk. Thor didnt go through anything CLOSE to what Goku went through during his fight with Frieza, Thor got stomped by Juggernaut, Thanos two shotted him.

Goku has tanked similar blast.

Rulk >>>> Freiza.

No comment on juggernaut, but Thanos hit Thor more than twice,and Thor only went down to one knee.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Point to some Frieza strength feats putting him above Logan. vin

Show me some Doomsday, Darkseid, Thanos, strength feats? 😛

Originally posted by carver9
Goku has fought against beings that possess his same strength and withstood EVERYTHING that they threw at him.

I'm not saying that they are weak but when they are fighting PEERS, they cant stand up on their feat like Goku can when he is fighting his peers.

that would make his durability more impressive than his strength.

if they were his peers, they would be able to hurt him. them not being able to implies that they aren't his peers.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Thor was holding back, came back and stomped Rulk so hard Rulk admitted he'd have died if Hulk didn't intervene.

Rulk >>>> Freiza.

No comment on juggernaut, but Thanos hit Thor more than twice,and Thor only went down to one knee.

Show me some Rulk strength feat.

And the only reason Thor had the advantage over Rulk was due to all the crap rulk went through before and after fighting Thor.

Originally posted by -Pr-
that would make his durability more impressive than his strength.

if they were his peers, they would be able to hurt him. them not being able to implies that they aren't his peers.

NOOOO, both combatants tank said things while fighting. Its not a one siding thing, I'm just bringing up Goku. Frieza took just as much, if not more.

Originally posted by carver9
NOOOO, both combatants tank said things while fighting. Its not a one siding thing, I'm just bringing up Goku. Frieza took just as much, if not more.

if they're tanking each other's moves, then both their durability stats are better than their strength. that would mean they possess substandard strength.

comic books are generally the opposite.

who won the fight? and how?