Originally posted by Black bolt z
The current TV show isn't canon but besides that yes
Originally posted by Omega VisionNo.The completely animated 5-15 minute skits are canon.The current TV show and latest movie are not.They contridict many things in the movies.
Yes it is. It actually has its own branch of canon (along with the previous Clone Wars series and the upcoming Live Action series) known as T Canon which is directly below G Canon (the highest level of canon: the six movies and direct statements made by George Lucas himself)
Originally posted by Black bolt z1. 1. Afraid not.
No...completely falseForce as a crutch?Mace is a normal human with the force and has jumping feats on par with jack.
600 ton?Or 600 pound?Very different.
I'd say more mid.
Mace is the better duelist with a lightsaber but yoda is much better with the force.
2. Not really, since Jack did them while physically carrying large boulders.
3. Actually 700 tons, remembered wrong.
4. Jack is class 100, hypersonic to the point where he can casually block futuristic gatling gun bullets with one hand on his sword among other feats, and he even survived orbital re-entry.
5. Nah.
Originally posted by Black bolt z
No.The completely animated 5-15 minute skits are canon.The current TV show and latest movie are not.They contridict many things in the movies.
Originally posted by NemeBroAfraid so
1. 1. Afraid not.2. Not really, since Jack did them while physically carrying large boulders.
3. Actually 700 tons, remembered wrong.
4. Jack is class 100, hypersonic to the point where he can casually block futuristic gatling gun bullets with one hand on his sword among other feats, and he even survived orbital re-entry.
5. Nah.
Your point?Its obvious jack is physically stronger but he does have jumping feats on par with jack
Scans/video?That a sumo weighed 700 tons....was this sumo the size of a mountain?But like I said its obvious jack is physically stronger.
Ok...Your point
Yah.
Originally posted by Black bolt z1. Nope.
Afraid soYour point?Its obvious jack is physically stronger but he does have jumping feats on par with jack
Scans/video?That a sumo weighed 700 tons....was this sumo the size of a mountain?But like I said its obvious jack is physically stronger.
Ok...Your point
Yah.
2. You do realise it is more difficult to jump while carrying a boulder right?
3. Nah, not gonna search Youtube for hours on end, Scenario I think posted a link with all the episodes and named the episode the feat happened in. No it was not, was larger than any human, but was not a mountain sized... Not that he would have to be mountain sized to weigh that much. Jack is not merely physically stronger, he could kill him physically with his bare hands if he so desired. The sword is just easier.
4. Jack has shown abilities beyond what I can recall Mid Metas being capable of. He has good strength, speed, great durability, prodigious fighting skill in virtually all areas, and a sword that can cut through virtually anything. He takes on planetary threats alone. I'd say High Meta is decent placement for him.
Originally posted by NemeBroYep
1. Nope.2. You do realise it is more difficult to jump while carrying a boulder right?
3. Nah, not gonna search Youtube for hours on end, Scenario I think posted a link with all the episodes and named the episode the feat happened in. No it was not, was larger than any human, but was not a mountain sized... Not that he would have to be mountain sized to weigh that much. Jack is not merely physically stronger, he could kill him physically with his bare hands if he so desired. The sword is just easier.
4. Jack has shown abilities beyond what I can recall Mid Metas being capable of. He has good strength, speed, great durability, prodigious fighting skill in virtually all areas, and a sword that can cut through virtually anything. He takes on planetary threats alone. I'd say High Meta is decent placement for him.
Yes.He still has jumping feats on par with jack.The fact he was carrying a boulder is a moot point.Jumping is jumping.
I just don't believe 700 tons.A human can't weight that much.And I don't doubt he could kill him but I doubt he weighed 700 tons.
Whats his best sword cutting feats?And what planetary(and where it was said they were a planetary threat)threat has he fought?
Originally posted by NemeBro
1. Nope.2. You do realise it is more difficult to jump while carrying a boulder right?
3. Nah, not gonna search Youtube for hours on end, Scenario I think posted a link with all the episodes and named the episode the feat happened in. No it was not, was larger than any human, but was not a mountain sized... Not that he would have to be mountain sized to weigh that much. Jack is not merely physically stronger, he could kill him physically with his bare hands if he so desired. The sword is just easier.
4. Jack has shown abilities beyond what I can recall Mid Metas being capable of. He has good strength, speed, great durability, prodigious fighting skill in virtually all areas, and a sword that can cut through virtually anything. He takes on planetary threats alone. I'd say High Meta is decent placement for him.
He's strong but I wouldn't say he's Class 100.
Low Meta is fine for him, that isn't to say he couldn't hang with a lot of Mid or even High Metas.
Originally posted by Black bolt z
YepYes.He still has jumping feats on par with jack.The fact he was carrying a boulder is a moot point.Jumping is jumping.
Jumping 10 feet with 100 pounds on your back is greater than jumping 10 feet with no weights on your back...
I just don't believe 700 tons.A human can't weight that much.And I don't doubt he could kill him but I doubt he weighed 700 tons.
You don't believe that cartoon based on fantasy could have a 700 ton human?
Originally posted by Wei PhoenixJumping 10 feet with 100 pounds on your back is greater than jumping 10 feet with no weights on your back...
You don't believe that cartoon based on fantasy could have a 700 ton human? [/B]
Originally posted by -Pr-No.There are many contridictions to the movie in the current TV show and last movie.It is non-canon.
the two tv shows are as canon as each other, i thought, with the current one taking precedence.
Originally posted by Wei PhoenixIts doesn't matter if jack had weights on his back.Its called a jumping feat.If they both jumped 100 feet then they both have equal jumping feats.Whether or not they had weights is a moot point as it is indiscernible how high they would have jumped without.Jumping 10 feet with 100 pounds on your back is greater than jumping 10 feet with no weights on your back...
You don't believe that cartoon based on fantasy could have a 700 ton human? [/B]
A 700 ton human?No.
Originally posted by amnesia😂
Jack>Windu.That's how it is. Now shut up.
Funny but completely false.
Originally posted by Black bolt z
No.There are many contridictions to the movie in the current TV show and last movie.It is non-canon.
You have nothing to back this up besides your opinion.
Here's the breakdown:
"* G-canon is George Lucas Canon; the six Episodes and anything directly provided to Lucas Licensing by Lucas (including unpublished production notes from him or his production department that are never seen by the public). Elements originating with Lucas in the movie novelizations, reference books, and other sources are also G-canon, though anything created by the authors of those sources is C-canon. When the matter of changes between movie versions arises, the most recently released editions are deemed superior to older ones, as they correct mistakes, improve consistency between the two trilogies, and express Lucas's current vision of the Star Wars universe most closely. The deleted scenes included on the DVDs are also considered G-canon (when they're not in conflict with the movie).
* T-canon, or Television Canon, refers to the canon level comprising the feature film Star Wars: The Clone Wars and the two television shows Star Wars: The Clone Wars and the Star Wars live-action TV series. It was devised recently in order to define a status above the C-Level canon, as confirmed by Chee.
* C-canon is Continuity Canon, consisting of all recent works (and many older works) released under the name of Star Wars: books, comics, games, cartoons, non-theatrical films, and more. Games are a special case, as generally only the stories are C-canon, while things like stats and gameplay may not be; they also offer non-canonical options to the player, such as choosing female gender for a canonically male character. C-canon elements have been known to appear in the movies, thus making them G-canon; examples include the name "Coruscant," swoop bikes, Quinlan Vos, Aayla Secura, YT-2400 freighters and Action VI transports.
* S-canon is Secondary Canon; the materials are available to be used or ignored as needed by current authors. This includes mostly older works, such as much of the Marvel Star Wars comics, that predate a consistent effort to maintain continuity; it also contains certain elements of a few otherwise N-canon stories, and other things that "may not fit just right." Many formerly S-canon elements have been elevated to C-canon through their inclusion in more recent works by continuity-minded authors, while many other older works (such as The Han Solo Adventures) were accounted for in continuity from the start despite their age, and thus were always C-canon.
* N is Non-Canon. What-if stories (such as stories published under the Infinities label) and anything else directly and irreconcilably contradicted by higher canon ends up here. N is the only level that is not considered canon by Lucasfilm. Information cut from canon, deleted scenes, or from canceled Star Wars works falls into this category as well, unless another canonical work references it and it is declared canon."
Stop calling it non-canon.
Originally posted by Black bolt z2. Are you serious?
YepYes.He still has jumping feats on par with jack.The fact he was carrying a boulder is a moot point.Jumping is jumping.
I just don't believe 700 tons.A human can't weight that much.And I don't doubt he could kill him but I doubt he weighed 700 tons.
Whats his best sword cutting feats?And what planetary(and where it was said they were a planetary threat)threat has he fought?
There's no way you can actually be serious. 😐
3. I don't really care what you believe. What was stated>>>You.
4. Aku. 😐 Aku wiped out the dinosaurs on Earth when he was in a weaker form.
He cut through Adamantium, as it was called.
Originally posted by Omega VisionHe also jumped hundreds of feet with 10-20 pound boulders.
To be fair the sumo thing was an extremely high showing akin to Superman's book lifting feat in FC: SMB, IE not something that should be used to determine a realistic average. He also failed to lift a boulder that was at most one ton in the second Scotsman episode, instead tossing the man he was competing against.He's strong but I wouldn't say he's Class 100.
Low Meta is fine for him, that isn't to say he couldn't hang with a lot of Mid or even High Metas.
I think he is probably barely class 100, since he did not actually lift the sumo.
Why? Jack can jump hundreds of feet while carrying boulders, he is hypersonic to a not unimpressive degree, he survived orbital re-entry, and his sword is indestructible and can cut through virtually anything. Mid Meta at least.
Originally posted by Omega VisionSome contridictions are anikan not being made a master in the third movie and he is a TV show.Another is anikan makes reference to the last encounter between him and douku being in AotC and in the new TV show they encountered multiple times.Thats just two.
I ask again: name the contradictions.You have nothing to back this up besides your opinion.
Here's the breakdown:
"* G-canon is George Lucas Canon; the six Episodes and anything directly provided to Lucas Licensing by Lucas (including unpublished production notes from him or his production department that are never seen by the public). Elements originating with Lucas in the movie novelizations, reference books, and other sources are also G-canon, though anything created by the authors of those sources is C-canon. When the matter of changes between movie versions arises, the most recently released editions are deemed superior to older ones, as they correct mistakes, improve consistency between the two trilogies, and express Lucas's current vision of the Star Wars universe most closely. The deleted scenes included on the DVDs are also considered G-canon (when they're not in conflict with the movie).
* T-canon, or Television Canon, refers to the canon level comprising the feature film Star Wars: The Clone Wars and the [b]two television shows Star Wars: The Clone Wars
and the Star Wars live-action TV series. It was devised recently in order to define a status above the C-Level canon, as confirmed by Chee.* C-canon is Continuity Canon, consisting of all recent works (and many older works) released under the name of Star Wars: books, comics, games, cartoons, non-theatrical films, and more. Games are a special case, as generally only the stories are C-canon, while things like stats and gameplay may not be; they also offer non-canonical options to the player, such as choosing female gender for a canonically male character. C-canon elements have been known to appear in the movies, thus making them G-canon; examples include the name "Coruscant," swoop bikes, Quinlan Vos, Aayla Secura, YT-2400 freighters and Action VI transports.
* S-canon is Secondary Canon; the materials are available to be used or ignored as needed by current authors. This includes mostly older works, such as much of the Marvel Star Wars comics, that predate a consistent effort to maintain continuity; it also contains certain elements of a few otherwise N-canon stories, and other things that "may not fit just right." Many formerly S-canon elements have been elevated to C-canon through their inclusion in more recent works by continuity-minded authors, while many other older works (such as The Han Solo Adventures) were accounted for in continuity from the start despite their age, and thus were always C-canon.
* N is Non-Canon. What-if stories (such as stories published under the Infinities label) and anything else directly and irreconcilably contradicted by higher canon ends up here. N is the only level that is not considered canon by Lucasfilm. Information cut from canon, deleted scenes, or from canceled Star Wars works falls into this category as well, unless another canonical work references it and it is declared canon."
Stop calling it non-canon. [/B]
Originally posted by NemeBroI am
2. Are you serious?There's no way you can actually be serious. 😐
3. I don't really care what you believe. What was stated>>>You.
4. Aku. 😐 Aku wiped out the dinosaurs on Earth when he was in a weaker form.
He cut through Adamantium, as it was called.
I want proof that he weighs 700 tons.Show me proof.
Ok.I take a panetary threat to be something that can destroy the planet.Wiping out the worlds dinosaurs are within the grounds of heralds.
And was it really as strong as adamantium?Marvel adamantium?If so what proof?