Mixed Genre & Comic Tier Reference Guide

Started by Creshosk307 pages

Originally posted by amnesia
Gee golly, I'm only joshing.
Yeah well I still don't like being punched in the balls by the story I'm enjoying. 131

Oh snap, how did I not notice this thread was here for two years?

Looks exciting.

How come the list isn't updated?

I remember making a Superman vs Goku thread when I first joined, and it got closed just because it was a 'Superman vs Goku' thread. So this is cool. Two of my favorite characters can finally duke it out.

BTW, Goku SSJ2 or SSJ3 is enough to be in high herald department.

Kid Buu would be even higher, but not godlike, so dunno where he'd go.

Originally posted by Placidity
Oh snap, how did I not notice this thread was here for two years?

Looks exciting.

How come the list isn't updated?

I remember making a Superman vs Goku thread when I first joined, and it got closed just because it was a 'Superman vs Goku' thread. So this is cool. Two of my favorite characters can finally duke it out.

BTW, Goku SSJ2 or SSJ3 is enough to be in high herald department.

Kid Buu would be even higher, but not godlike, so dunno where he'd go.

it hasn't been here that long. 😛

Originally posted by illadelph12
I nominate the Crystalline Entity (from Star Trek: TNG) for Mid Herald. It can travel at multiples of warp speed (overtaking the Enterprise with ease while the ship was traveling at Warp 6), can convert large quantities of matter into energy for consumption (it devours all life on planets similar to Galactus), and it's gigantic in mass (The Enterprise, which is the size of a city, is dwarfed by the Crystalline Entity).

Downsides are that it's shaped like a gigantic snowflake without any appendages and is pretty much just a gigantic grazing animal. It's kinda similar to a sun-eater, but rather than eating suns it eats organic life.

Originally posted by -Pr-
seconded.
Oh look, a mod-nod...
Originally posted by amnesia
Nod or something.
Originally posted by Creshosk
fourtheded.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Fifthededededed.
mmm lulz.

I'll nod Crystalline Entity as well.

Originally posted by Creshosk
That's what canon refers to continuity.

What's canon for the manga is not necessarily canon for the anime and vice versa. they are essentially different universes.

The characters especially the bad guys say a lot of things. A good chunk of them turn out to be false.

Janemba Movie Vegeta starts off dead. But, he's alive during the end of the Buu saga. How did Goku and Vegeta both die after the Buu Saga?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VX1E-lqZZz8

Nope. Janemba does NOT fit into the anime timeline.

Yet both are canon.Or at least thats what delph told me.You can specify at the beginning if you want to use the anime as canon or not.

Thats true.Not 100% sure how thats relevant here...

Originally posted by Creshosk
That's what canon refers to continuity.

What's canon for the manga is not necessarily canon for the anime and vice versa. they are essentially different universes.

The characters especially the bad guys say a lot of things. A good chunk of them turn out to be false.

Janemba Movie Vegeta starts off dead. But, he's alive during the end of the Buu saga. How did Goku and Vegeta both die after the Buu Saga?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VX1E-lqZZz8

Nope. Janemba does NOT fit into the anime timeline.

He was dead during buu saga.Remember he blew himself up....I thought king yema let him leave so he could battle buu.But he was IIRC dead.
Originally posted by NemeBro
1. Better.

2. Why? He's hard to kill, and decent with a lightsaber. That's it. Wow, real varied powerset thar.

3. Yes, all of it, the planet is dead. Show me Nihilus being KOed. 🙂 Nihilus had to be weakened three times before the Exile, Mandalore, and Visas could finally kill him. The Exile was tooling Sion herself, and then talked him to death. Also, in cut content, Nihilus KNOCKED SION OUT.

4. What? I'm serious, you cannot prove he has any substantial Force abilities beyond his pain related immortality.

Very powered with the force,the ability to take nearly any damage thrown at him...in the most canon source for him(the game)you can only kill him by convincing him to let himself die.

Tooling sion?I know I haven't played the game in a while but I don't remember that at all.Video?

Hunting the jedi to extinction with only him and a handful of assassins.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
So could someone explain to me the debate over the Star Wars character's placement?

Is the premise of high placement basically immortality?

I'm not using immortality but to the point that eh can't be KO'd short of disintegration.Really I can't see anyone below mid herald killing him.

Originally posted by Badabing
Terrible, I know. biscuits

I'm a bit proactive for a few reasons. First, so the crap stops before it can gain momentum. Second, it cuts down on warnings/bans. For all my talking smack, I've only had to give out maybe 5 official warnings so far this year. In my opinion, it's my job as a mod to help maintain the forums w/o resorting to getting people in trouble.

I'm a bit more dickish in the cross genre threads because it would get shut down if problems occurred.

Like 2 weeks ago you said 3.You've been speeding up.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Yeah well I still don't like being punched in the balls by the story I'm enjoying. 131
I'm sure marwash does.
Originally posted by Placidity
Oh snap, how did I not notice this thread was here for two years?

Looks exciting.

How come the list isn't updated?

I remember making a Superman vs Goku thread when I first joined, and it got closed just because it was a 'Superman vs Goku' thread. So this is cool. Two of my favorite characters can finally duke it out.

BTW, Goku SSJ2 or SSJ3 is enough to be in high herald department.

Kid Buu would be even higher, but not godlike, so dunno where he'd go.

I nod goku SS2 for high herald.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
I'm not using immortality but to the point that eh can't be KO'd short of disintegration.Really I can't see anyone below mid herald killing him.
Meh.

There's a series called Baccano! wherein a group of characters have been granted immortality by an elixir from a demon. They cannot be killed by any conventional means, bar being devoured by another immortal.

They'd still only make low meta, if even that, in the grand scheme of things.

Looking at the comic low heralds; Sersi can survive disintegration and must have her atoms scattered to be killed and she has telekinesis sufficient to wash away the Brooklyn Bridge, mid-to-high level telepathy, super strength sufficient to knock out Hercules, super durability, stamina, flight, energy beams, teleportation. And that's all without mentioning her transmutation powers.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Yet both are canon.Or at least thats what delph told me.You can specify at the beginning if you want to use the anime as canon or not.

Thats true.Not 100% sure how thats relevant here... He was dead during buu saga.Remember he blew himself up....I thought king yema let him leave so he could battle buu.But he was IIRC dead. Very powered with the force,the ability to take nearly any damage thrown at him...in the most canon source for him(the game)you can only kill him by convincing him to let himself die.

Tooling sion?I know I haven't played the game in a while but I don't remember that at all.Video?

Hunting the jedi to extinction with only him and a handful of assassins.

I'm not using immortality but to the point that eh can't be KO'd short of disintegration.Really I can't see anyone below mid herald killing him.


Black Bolt enough, Darth Sion isn't anywhere near Herald just because its impossible to KO him under normal means.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Very powered with the force,the ability to take nearly any damage thrown at him...in the most canon source for him(the game)you can only kill him by convincing him to let himself die.

Tooling sion?I know I haven't played the game in a while but I don't remember that at all.Video?

Hunting the jedi to extinction with only him and a handful of assassins.

1. Show me him moving a paper plate with the Force. 😐 If you cannot prove he has any substantial power with the Force, concede the argument, to continue arguing this point without proving it is trolling.

2. It was cut-content.

YouTube video

Sion is an insect compared to Nihilus.

3. What part of they were already almost dead did you not get? The majority of the council was taken out by Nihilus. Also, handful? He had an army.

Originally posted by Placidity
Oh snap, how did I not notice this thread was here for two years?

Looks exciting.

How come the list isn't updated?

I remember making a Superman vs Goku thread when I first joined, and it got closed just because it was a 'Superman vs Goku' thread. So this is cool. Two of my favorite characters can finally duke it out.

BTW, Goku SSJ2 or SSJ3 is enough to be in high herald department.

Kid Buu would be even higher, but not godlike, so dunno where he'd go.

Maybe you should read the thread to find out why you're wrong.

Neither are High Herald, and Kid Buu is certainly not higher than High Herald.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Maybe you should read the thread to find out why you're wrong.

Sure, 180+ pages. Maybe I shouldn't.

There's probably quite a bit on some DBZ characters within the last 20 pages.

just search "stupid shit Carver says", you should find all the DBZ info you need. 😛

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Black Bolt enough, Darth Sion isn't anywhere near Herald just because its impossible to KO him under normal means.
But you seem to think thats the only thing he can do.I just don't think durability gets enough respect.
Originally posted by NemeBro
1. Show me him moving a paper plate with the Force. 😐 If you cannot prove he has any substantial power with the Force, concede the argument, to continue arguing this point without proving it is trolling.

2. It was cut-content.

YouTube video

Sion is an insect compared to Nihilus.

3. What part of they were already almost dead did you not get? The majority of the council was taken out by Nihilus. Also, handful? He had an army.


Define substantial.Its obvious he has powerful force.He has to to stop his body from crumbling.

That video doesn't exactly help you.Sion did what he said nihilus with all his power couldn't.Then then nihilus killed sion and he came back to life.He really did absolutely nothing to him.

No they weren't.Nihilus killed most of the council.Thats the group in the chamber.The rest of the jedi where very much alive.And no he did not have an entire army.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Maybe you should read the thread to find out why you're wrong.

Neither are High Herald, and Kid Buu is certainly not higher than High Herald.

They are IMO.And Buu would probably be trans.Along with Goku SS3.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
But you seem to think thats the only thing he can do.I just don't think durability gets enough respect.


It's his only trait that's worth mentioning. You've yet to provide one single feat that's even Low Meta.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Yet both are canon.Or at least thats what delph told me.You can specify at the beginning if you want to use the anime as canon or not.
They arn't both canon because they have contrdicted events or events that occured in one and not the other.

It's like you're arguing that both the 90's X-men cartoons and the X-men comics are canon to each other. Which is impossible because Jubilee was never officially adopted in the comics. And never lived in australia in the cartoon.

Two separate storylines that sometimes seemed close means separate canon.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Thats true.Not 100% sure how thats relevant here... He was dead during buu saga.Remember he blew himself up....I thought king yema let him leave so he could battle buu.But he was IIRC dead.
And around that time Goku was returned to life by the elder kai.

So the next time vegeta saw Goku, Goku was alive. there was never a point where both Goku and vegeta were dead at the same time.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
It's his only trait that's worth mentioning. You've yet to provide one single feat that's even Low Meta.
Hunting the jedi to extinction with only a handful of assassins and himself.

Can I nominate darth bane to elite meta?

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Hunting the jedi to extinction with only a handful of assassins and himself.

Can I nominate darth bane to elite meta?


It wasn't a handful, it was an army. Nihilus did most of the work.