Originally posted by Black bolt z
[B]As far as going all out thats true.But with CIS they could beat supes.So no they are not.
How exactly does that defeat my assertion that they have lesser feats and weaker powers?
They do IMO.
Originally posted by Omega VisionFor SS3 or higher he would.
Superman wouldn't even have to go all out to defeat Goku.How exactly does that defeat my assertion that they have lesser feats and weaker powers?
Pretty much all your arguments always regress to this point where you just state your opinion without any real backing.
When you compare them to supermans high feats yes and weaker powers if all not by much.
High flight speed(although no where near supes),high power punches easily enough to bust mountains,easily able to blow planets,high knoweldge of MA,massive combat speed,Ki blasts that individually blow apart miles of rock,instant transmission,after imaging...thats SS3 who I think could beat superman.Though the thing is he can't sustain that for long.
Originally posted by Black bolt z
[B]For SS3 or higher he would.
When you compare them to supermans high feats yes and weaker powers if all not by much.
High flight speed(although no where near supes),high power punches easily enough to bust mountains,easily able to blow planets,high knoweldge of MA,massive combat speed,Ki blasts that individually blow apart miles of rock,instant transmission,after imaging...thats SS3 who I think could beat superman.Though the thing is he can't sustain that for long.
Originally posted by Omega VisionI only read a small amount of the magna.
Explain why using logic, facts, and evidence from the Manga.Superman's average feats are on par or superior to the absolute best feats of any DBZ character. His high feats absolutely put them to shame.
Goku is too slow and too weak to physically challenge Superman regardless of his MA skill (which isn't as big an advantage as some would let on) and his Ki attacks can be easily dodged.
I doubt that...do his average showings consist of?And no not all DNZ characters.Broly busted a galaxy.
Too slow?No.CIS superman doesn't use his speed that much.Too weak?No.Goku easily has good enough strength to hurt supes.Easily dodged? Hundreds of punches followed by many ki blasts is there regular tactics.He wouldn't dodge them.And IT Kamehameha. Charge then teleport and shoot where supes isn't looking.