Mixed Genre & Comic Tier Reference Guide

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doesn't it take a laser (or a diamond) just to cut granite?

Diamond >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> granite.

Originally posted by marwash22
doesn't it take a laser (or a diamond) just to cut granite?

Diamond >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> granite.

Put it this way titanium is a 9.5 on the moh's hardness scale. its an exponential scale mind you and diamond is a 10. Steel has a hardness of 6

Originally posted by NemeBro
So I see you completely ignored Illa's order on banning DBZ for a week and Carver completely forgot it.

Naah, I'm not discussing it, I'm telling him that I dont see anything wrong with Omegas list.

Originally posted by Creshosk
😐

Again, matchup's don't matter. Or do Carver and Dugans argumetns hold weight?

Are you serious?

I'm surprised that you got it right that diamonds conduct heat... but...

"diamond is brittle"
" a guy with a rubber mallet can shatter a diamond"

Seriously?

1. Diamond IS brittle, as hard as it is, it can shatter when struck with a heavy blow.

http://dendritics.com/scales/diamond-properties.asp

"though hard, a diamond is brittle, and can crack under the shock of a sudden, sharp blow."

"Diamond has an isometric crystallography. The crystal structure of a diamond, called a face centered cubic lattice, derives from the way each carbon atom joins four other carbon atoms in regular tetrahedrons (triangular prisms). It is possible to cleave, or split, a diamond, along its crystal face (grain), such that each side of the cleavage remains smooth."

Diamonds CAN be shattered by a rubber mallet wielded by a man (Relatively smaller diamonds anyway, you'd need a bigger man and a bigger mallet 🙂 )

2. Only I'm not arguing that Spiderman could beat Aang or anything like that, how else would I illustrate the durability of stone (In this case rock armor) than with an example of someone who could easily break it?

It's like when Carver argues for Cell's solar system busting and how Goku end of DBZ could easily tank it, only for me to bring up that Goku was unable to stop a mere planet busting attack.

3. Please read 1.

Originally posted by NemeBro
1. Diamond IS brittle, as hard as it is, it can shatter when struck with a heavy blow.

http://dendritics.com/scales/diamond-properties.asp

"though hard, a diamond is brittle, and can crack under the shock of a sudden, sharp blow."

"Diamond has an isometric crystallography. The crystal structure of a diamond, called a face centered cubic lattice, derives from the way each carbon atom joins four other carbon atoms in regular tetrahedrons (triangular prisms). It is possible to cleave, or split, a diamond, along its crystal face (grain), such that each side of the cleavage remains smooth."

Diamonds CAN be shattered by a rubber mallet wielded by a man (Relatively smaller diamonds anyway, you'd need a bigger man and a bigger mallet 🙂 )

2. Only I'm not arguing that Spiderman could beat Aang or anything like that, how else would I illustrate the durability of stone (In this case rock armor) than with an example of someone who could easily break it?

It's like when Carver argues for Cell's solar system busting and how Goku end of DBZ could easily tank it, only for me to bring up that Goku was unable to stop a mere planet busting attack.

3. Please read 1.

Your google fu is impresive, but copying and pasting doesn't mean you know anything especially since you think that a man can shatter diamond with a rubber mallet.

I really can't take your posts seriously anymore.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Your google fu is impresive
it's wiki-fu, fool! get yo facts straight. haermm

Originally posted by Creshosk
Your google fu is impresive, but copying and pasting doesn't mean you know anything especially since you think that a man can shatter diamond with a rubber mallet.

I really can't take your posts seriously anymore.

Your rebuke to my argument was both well-thought out AND well-spoken.

Only it wasn't.

I only googled for a source, if you used anything resembling intelligence you would consider that I knew diamond was brittle before I ever thought of googling it and simply stated a scientific fact, while admittedly I did not know the specifics of WHY diamond was brittle, I very well knew that it was.

A diamond will shatter if hit with an ordinary hammer (Admittedly not sure why I used the rubber mallet specifically), a diamond's toughness is good compared to other gemstones, but not all that great regardless.

Instead of being butthurt, how's about you just admit you were wrong? It's not hard.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Your rebuke to my argument was both well-thought out AND well-spoken.

Only it wasn't.

I only googled for a source, if you used anything resembling intelligence you would consider that I knew diamond was brittle before I ever thought of googling it and simply stated a scientific fact, while admittedly I did not know the specifics of WHY diamond was brittle, I very well knew that it was.

A diamond will shatter if hit with an ordinary hammer (Admittedly not sure why I used the rubber mallet specifically), a diamond's toughness is good compared to other gemstones, but not all that great regardless.

Instead of being butthurt, how's about you just admit you were wrong? It's not hard.

Okay I can accept a metal hammer more. and thought you were using the coloquial use for "brittle" meaning fragile.

It's not butt hurt, its I thought I was dealing with the usual ignorant person.

Though I think that you're seriously underestimating the durability of a carbon latice structure.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Okay I can accept a metal hammer more. and thought you were using the coloquial use for "brittle" meaning fragile.

It's not butt hurt, its I thought I was dealing with the usual ignorant person.

Yeah, not sure what the rubber mallet thing was about honestly. Diamond is terms of hardness is the best naturally occurring substance in the world (I think?), yeah, but it is brittle as in not that tough, which is why I think firebenders, who are able to fire fire (Harhar I repeated myself) at fairly impressive velocities and in such a way that they are seemingly solid, them being able to break diamond is not too far-fetched IMO. Also, how is diamond's actual resistance to heat? Clueless on that regard.

No hard feelings then?

Originally posted by NemeBro
Yeah, not sure what the rubber mallet thing was about honestly. Diamond is terms of hardness is the best naturally occurring substance in the world (I think?), yeah, but it is brittle as in not that tough, which is why I think firebenders, who are able to fire fire (Harhar I repeated myself) at fairly impressive velocities and in such a way that they are seemingly solid, them being able to break diamond is not too far-fetched IMO. Also, how is diamond's actual resistance to heat? Clueless on that regard.

No hard feelings then?

Diamonds aare also the most thermally conductive of the gems. It feels cold to the touch because it leaches the heat out of things it comes in contact with and is being used in in some computers because of this capacity allows them to use diamond in smaller and smaller structures without as much need for making then thermal conductive wires.

Technically speaking it'd be the chi aspect of the fire benders attack that did the force impact damage. As fire is not solid. its just pure thermal and photonic energy.

Clasically diamond is weak to pure uniform kinetic energy such as sonic and ki/chi/qi in a good number of fantasy settings.

when did firebenders (or anyone for that matter) ever break diamond? If you're talking about that green crap from "The Crossroads of Destiny", that was not diamond; It was crystal, the same crystal (i believe) that Bumi eats on a regular basis... it's pretty much rock candy and much less resistant than actual rock.

It took Ozai (amped from the comet) a great deal of effort just to bust through Aang's rock-cocoon. I highly doubt a firebender is busting a diamond.... at least, not as easily as they did to the green stuff.

Originally posted by marwash22
when did firebenders (or anyone for that matter) ever break diamond? If you're talking about that green crap from "The Crossroads of Destiny", that was not diamond; It was crystal, the same crystal (i believe) that Bumi eats on a regular basis... it's pretty much rock candy and much less resistant than actual rock.

It took Ozai (amped from the comet) a great deal of effort just to bust through Aang's rock-cocoon. I highly doubt a firebender is busting a diamond.

I never said what it was.. But like I said, clasically a diamond is weak to ki and sonic attacks.

Originally posted by marwash22
when did firebenders (or anyone for that matter) ever break diamond? If you're talking about that green crap from "The Crossroads of Destiny", that was not diamond; It was crystal, the same crystal (i believe) that Bumi eats on a regular basis... it's pretty much rock candy and much less resistant than actual rock.

It took Ozai (amped from the comet) a great deal of effort just to bust through Aang's rock-cocoon. I highly doubt a firebender is busting a diamond.... at least, not as easily as they did to the green stuff.

I dunno, Cresh called it diamond, so was just working with what I was given, but yeah, it probably was not diamond.

Originally posted by NemeBro
I dunno, Cresh called it diamond, so was just working with what I was given, but yeah, it probably was not diamond.
Wasn't calling it diamond. Sorry I didn't explain myself as well as I should have and made some logical leaps that cause a disconnect.

That was my fault for the misunderstanding.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Wasn't calling it diamond. Sorry I didn't explain myself as well as I should have and made some logical leaps that cause a disconnect.

That was my fault for the misunderstanding.

if only others could be so forthcoming in acknowledging mistakes. 😖hifty:

Originally posted by Creshosk
Wasn't calling it diamond. Sorry I didn't explain myself as well as I should have and made some logical leaps that cause a disconnect.

That was my fault for the misunderstanding.

No problem.

On a serious note, what are some of the characters you mentioned earlier with minor durability, but made it to Low Herald due to power? Depending on who they were, I may concede this point.

Originally posted by marwash22
if only others could be so forthcoming in acknowledging mistakes. 😖hifty:
It's better than denying the mistake and defending a position I didn't take and have no real way to defend.

Originally posted by NemeBro
No problem.

On a serious note, what are some of the characters you mentioned earlier with minor durability, but made it to Low Herald due to power? Depending on who they were, I may concede this point.

Delph pointed out the primary one, professor xavier.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Delph pointed out the primary one, professor xavier.
Admittedly I am not particular knowledgable of Professor Xavier, but he can "attack" you at the speed of thought (Assuming X does not also have faster than normal human thoughts), and mind attacks are impossible to defend against for most. Also, doesn't he have planetary telepathy feats? I've heard he does, but I do not really know of any.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Admittedly I am not particular knowledgable of Professor Xavier, but he can "attack" you at the speed of thought (Assuming X does not also have faster than normal human thoughts), and mind attacks are impossible to defend against for most. Also, doesn't he have planetary telepathy feats? I've heard he does, but I do not really know of any.
And still has human durability. A person immune to mental attacks with a gun could shoot and kill him.