Mixed Genre & Comic Tier Reference Guide

Started by Black bolt z307 pages

Originally posted by Creshosk
There should be nothing wrong with a small amount of talk.Never more then a page but a little discussion here and there does sound fair.About DBZ.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Only when speaking of Ironman, the tier only takes into account him in the armor. Unlike Aang, who would not start off every fight armored.

First of all, diamond is brittle. Second, when was it stated to be diamond? Third, in most fights, diamonds would not be inexplicably lying around. And if you want to bring up rock armor, even someone like Spiderman would not have much difficulty punching through rock.

Diamonds conduct heat, so they would not really be all that great for keeping you protected from it, also, firebending is often concussive in nature, if a guy with a rubber mallet can shatter a diamond, why not a giant ball of fire shot at a high speed?

@ the middle post.

Depends how much rock.Aang bended an entire city work of rock.At least 100 feet.No way spiderman is getting through that.Hell in his earlier days hulk had touble getting through 10 feet.

Originally posted by marwash22
it's probably the Kyoshi feat; which, i think, gets lowballed a bit. She moved an island using airbending alone. There aren't too many grand showings, it wasn't that kinda show.

Lol. Did you even watch that episode? She used all four elements. The creators straight up said in 'Avatar Extras' that it took all four bending styles to accomplish that feat.


Aang was effortlessly chucking giant pillars during his fight with Ozai.

So?

A while ago, people claimed an Avatar couldn't bust a planet, i lol'd.

And they were totally correct. They still are.

Originally posted by NemeBro
1. Diamond IS brittle, as hard as it is, it can shatter when struck with a heavy blow.

http://dendritics.com/scales/diamond-properties.asp

"though hard, a diamond is brittle, and can crack under the shock of a sudden, sharp blow."

"Diamond has an isometric crystallography. The crystal structure of a diamond, called a face centered cubic lattice, derives from the way each carbon atom joins four other carbon atoms in regular tetrahedrons (triangular prisms). It is possible to cleave, or split, a diamond, along its crystal face (grain), such that each side of the cleavage remains smooth."

Diamonds CAN be shattered by a rubber mallet wielded by a man (Relatively smaller diamonds anyway, you'd need a bigger man and a bigger mallet 🙂 )

2. Only I'm not arguing that Spiderman could beat Aang or anything like that, how else would I illustrate the durability of stone (In this case rock armor) than with an example of someone who could easily break it?

It's like when Carver argues for Cell's solar system busting and how Goku end of DBZ could easily tank it, only for me to bring up that Goku was unable to stop a mere planet busting attack.

3. Please read 1.

Unfortunatly thats right.The harder something is the more suseptible it is to shattering.You won't see a block of paper shattering when hit but ice or rock will.

Not saying a man with a rubber mallet can...but his logic is in thw right lines.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Lol. Did you even watch that episode? She used all four elements. The creators straight up said in 'Avatar Extras' that it took all four bending styles to accomplish that feat.
sneer

lulz. did you even bother to read my post before you decide to be a dbag and attack?

I never once said that Kyoshi CREATED the island using airbending alone, I said SHE MOVED the island using airbending alone... which is true.

Reading comprehension, it's your friend.

Originally posted by marwash22
sneer

lulz. did you even bother to read my post before you decide to be a dbag and attack?

I never once said that Kyoshi CREATED the island using airbending alone, I said SHE MOVED the island using airbending alone... which is true.

Reading comprehension, it's your friend.


Which wouldn't really matter if she hadn't used the other elements to split it from the mainland.

I don't disagree with that, but i also don't see how it concerns what i initially said. She moved giant mass of land... with air, that's impressive is all i was getting at; anything else is faulty inference on your part.

Originally posted by marwash22
I don't disagree with that, but i also don't see how it concerns what i initially said. She moved giant mass of land... with air, that's impressive is all i was getting at; anything else is faulty inference on your part.

How do you even know it was just air though? I'm pretty sure she was using Earth, Air, and Water to move the island after severing it.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
How do you even know it was just air though? I'm pretty sure she was using Earth, Air, and Water to move the island after severing it.
YouTube video

skip to 1:20... looks like air to me.

Boris the Blade, AKA Boris the Bullet-Dodger from Snatch for Mid Street.

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YouTube video

Originally posted by Omega Vision
[b]Boris the Blade, AKA Boris the Bullet-Dodger from Snatch for Mid Street.

YouTube video
YouTube video [/B]

But...why do they call him the bullet dodger?

Originally posted by marwash22
YouTube video

skip to 1:20... looks like air to me.

She used all the elements to cut it then it looked like air and water to move it.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
it looked like air [b]and water to move it. [/B]
gtfo. So now they can use multiple element's Simultaneously? From what we have seen, only avatar state can accomplish such a feat. She was clearly only using air to move the island.

Originally posted by marwash22
gtfo. So now they can use multiple element's Simultaneously? From what we have seen, only avatar state can accomplish such a feat. She was clearly only using air to move the island.
She was obviously an powerful avatar.She can use multiple elements at the same time.

Originally posted by marwash22
gtfo. So now they can use multiple element's Simultaneously? From what we have seen, only avatar state can accomplish such a feat. She was clearly only using air to move the island.

Yeah they can. Roku bended magma without being in Avatar state, magma bending=Earth+Fire bending.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
She was obviously an powerful avatar.She can use multiple elements at the same time.
orly? I wouldn't doubt that an Avatar could do it, but (outside of Avatar-state) it was never shown; and Kyoshi didn't do it to move the island.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Yeah they can. Roku bended magma without being in Avatar state, magma bending=Earth+Fire bending.
lavabending is a branch of firebending. it's akin to sand/metalbending for earthbender... or snow/plant bending for waterbenders

Originally posted by marwash22
lavabending is a branch of firebending. it's akin to sand/metalbending for earthbender... or snow/plant bending for waterbenders

The creators disagree with you. In the same scene where Roku was magma bending all that Firelord Sozin could do to help him was to remove the heat from the magma, turning it to stone. He couldn't magma bend because he wasn't able to Earthbend like Roku could.

Also in Avatar extras its spelled out that Magmabending=Fire+Earth bending.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
The creators disagree with you. In the same scene where Roku was magma bending all that Firelord Sozin could do to help him was to remove the heat from the magma, turning it to stone. He couldn't magma bend because he wasn't able to Earthbend like Roku could.

Also in Avatar extras its spelled out that Magmabending=Fire+Earth bending.

In the commentary it says that bending mamga takes understanding of earthbending... not earth+fire=magma bending. it's the same way Iroh learned to redirect lightning... he adapted from his understanding of Waterbending.

Wait, i think I'll concede the argument because i do recall Aang using air and earth at the same time.

Proposing Hideyoshi Toyotomi from Sengoku Basara for Mid-Meta at least.

Feats include: Generating enough air/windforce to deflect hundreds of arrows with a swipe of his hand.

Drying up a sea of water with one punch.

Reflexes fast enough to block Date Masamune.

He split a giant ship with a punch.

Durable enough to tank a cannon blast from Motochika's giant ship with no sign of pain at all.

Sends somewhat of an earthquake/shockwave through the ground without touching it, only punching towards it.

He jumps on one end of a giant ship and causes it to lean forward.

Able to punch rapidly faster than a normal human. I have no actual speed for this feat but it's one of those rapid afterimage all at once punches. Essentially a Hokuto Hyakuretsu-Ken.