Mixed Genre & Comic Tier Reference Guide

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YouTube video

Watch this from the 3:00 mark.

It's pretty apparent.

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Also mute. Someone dubbed Bad to the Bone over the clip.

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F*ck it, here's the link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLtbQLv9-NA

God damn embedding disabled.

Originally posted by marwash22
eh, I'll stick to my sub-ftl assertion.

El Oh El.

Originally posted by illadelph12
But how is that any different from, say, Superman's characterization? At times Supes is (grudgingly) God-like and moves so fast he's untouchable. At other times he's trading blows with Grundy. Now granted, Superman has a lot more opposing showings to those lows than Neo, I mean, over 50 years of material vs. 3 films, there's no comparison. However, within Neo's canon his abilities were mapped out, even if briefly. We know what he was capable of. Perhaps not the full extent, but a very reasonable amount to place him in a hierarchy. We may not be able to get an exact clock on his speed capabilities, but we could make a reasonable deduction, or even extrapolation, without being overly demanding, right?

sure we can extrapolate.

i'd put him at mid-high meta personally.

^ don't mean to be a dikc, but i don't see how

for all of neo's power, it was all virtual.

polaris would have cleansed the entire planet of the machines in the leadership positions, scrambled the matrix as a whole, and released all of the human batteries in a few days solo.

electro would be unbeatable by real world neo (minimal power over machinery), or neo with all his powers (somehow) transferred over to "real life"

Originally posted by psycho gundam
^ don't mean to be a dikc, but i don't see how

for all of neo's power, it was all virtual.

polaris would have cleansed the entire planet of the machines in the leadership positions, scrambled the matrix as a whole, and released all of the human batteries in a few days solo.

electro would be unbeatable by real world neo (minimal power over machinery), or neo with all his powers (somehow) transferred over to "real life"

i thought we were taking him as his matrix self, though.

Superman vibrates and turns off the Matrix!

Originally posted by -Pr-
i thought we were taking him as his matrix self, though.
Yeah granting him his full powers of his universe like granting flash his speed force powers. Speed force doesn't exist in marvel but we still give flash his full powers when he fights Marvel characters on this site. Right?

Originally posted by Creshosk
Yeah granting him his full powers of his universe like granting flash his speed force powers. Speed force doesn't exist in marvel but we still give flash his full powers when he fights Marvel characters on this site. Right?

yeah, pretty much.

Originally posted by -Pr-
i thought we were taking him as his matrix self, though.

We are.

For the purposes of Mixed Genre it would be Neo with the abilities he displayed within the Matrix, not his unplugged human self, and also not his abilities only working within a simulation. His abilities as shown within the Matrix would have the same effect against an opponent in the real world.

For example, by rule, Neo could dive into Ironman's chest and blow him up if he chose to.

Originally posted by illadelph12
We are.

For the purposes of Mixed Genre it would be Neo with the abilities he displayed within the Matrix, not his unplugged human self, and also not his abilities only working within a simulation. His abilities as shown within the Matrix would have the same effect against an opponent in the real world.

For example, by rule, Neo could dive into Ironman's chest and blow him up if he chose to.

ok, i didn't think you were going to include that as one of his powers.

I'm still confused about that blowing up thing.Agents have shown superhuman durability but not massively.Mabye low-mid meta durability?So at what point can he no longer blow them up?

Durability doesn't have anything to do with that ability. Darkseid, one of the most durable character's in comics, would get his ass handed to him by Neo using that ability. It never matters how tough your skin is or how strong your forcefield is, your insides are always vulnerable. The only people you argue wouldn't be effected by that body-explosion thing, are those with intangibility powers... or maybe magic types.

Originally posted by marwash22
Durability doesn't have anything to do with that ability. Darkseid, one of the most durable character's in comics, would get his ass handed to him by Neo using that ability. It never matters how tough your skin is or how strong your forcefield is, your insides are always vulnerable. The only people you argue wouldn't be effected by that body-explosion thing, are those with intangibility powers... or maybe magic types.
But saying that is saying that neo could one-shot thanos or odin.If you go by that logic neo can beat everyone.There has to be some point at which it stops.

I never said it wasn't Haxx, but yeah... Neo would one-shot someone like Thanos.

Originally posted by marwash22
I never said it wasn't Haxx, but yeah... Neo would one-shot someone like Thanos.
But at what point does it stop it what i'm asking?Could he one shot odin?Could he one shot RKT?Could he one shot kubik?Could he one shot death?Where does his blowing up thing stop?

Originally posted by Black bolt z
But at what point does it stop it what i'm asking?Could he one shot odin?Could he one shot RKT?Could he one shot kubik?Could he one shot death?Where does his blowing up thing stop?
I already addressed it; basically, if you can't go intangible, reform or have some kind of ability that keeps people from entering your body... you're gonna lose to Neo, save for killing him before he gets the chance to use the body-explosion.

That power is like the definition of haxxxxxx; it's worse than Aizen and Juggs combined.

Originally posted by marwash22
I already addressed it; basically, if you can't go intangible, reform or have some kind of ability that keeps people from entering your body... you're gonna lose to Neo, save for killing him before he gets the chance to use the body-explosion.

That power is like the definition of haxxxxxx; it's worse than Aizen and Juggs combined.

SO in your opinion if beyonder kept his physical form and let neo into him and didn't reform neo could kill the beyonder?

Originally posted by Black bolt z
SO in your opinion if beyonder kept his physical form and let neo into him and didn't reform neo could kill the beyonder?
His physical body, yes. But that wouldn't technically give Neo a win because I'm fairly certain that Beyonder falls under the category of people who can reform. Also, I seriously doubt, that in a fight, Beyonder wouldn't just one-shot Neo first via a snap of his fingers... dude has reality altering powers.

Originally posted by marwash22
His physical body, yes. But that wouldn't technically give Neo a win because I'm fairly certain that Beyonder falls under the category of people who can reform. Also, I seriously doubt, that in a fight, Beyonder wouldn't just one-shot Neo first via a snap of his fingers... dude has reality altering powers.
But if beyonder let neo try it an chose not to reform your saying that Neo could kill PR beyonder?

Originally posted by Black bolt z
But if beyonder let neo try it an chose not to reform your saying that Neo could kill PR beyonder?
No. Beyonder is not human, he has a body by choice. You're basically asking me if Neo can assist Beyonder in suicide. Neo doesn't have the ability to expel an entity, just a physical body. For most people, like... Thor, Superman, Odin, etc, blowing up their physical body would be enough, but Beyonder is well, beyond that.