Cell Vs Superman

Originally posted by carver9
Good point but i know that superman can beat venom and i know that superman can beat spiderman. I know that superman can survive an exploding gas station. I also know that goku can lift a bus since he moved far bigger things in the regular dragonball series.

Again, as long as creshok bring up low end feats Im going to bring up some for superman. Ok, well i have a cannonb one for ya. What about black canary knocking superman a couple of feat back with her sonic scream leaving him disoriented. She hurt him with a feeble scream. Is that better.

I don't recall what you're referring to. At least give me a issue number.

Originally posted by carver9
Good point but i know that superman can beat venom and i know that superman can beat spiderman. I know that superman can survive an exploding gas station. I also know that goku can lift a bus since he moved far bigger things in the regular dragonball series.

Again, as long as creshok bring up low end feats Im going to bring up some for superman. Ok, well i have a cannonb one for ya. What about black canary knocking superman a couple of feat back with her sonic scream leaving him disoriented. She hurt him with a feeble scream. Is that better.

A loud sonic scream against somebody who can hear people whispering halfway around the world. I'm betting that would hurt a lot against somebody with super hearing. Also was he standing there letting it happen or what?

Originally posted by Rorschach
Wizard is full of shit. Just take a look at their top 10 heroes list.

http://www.silver-surfer.us/Top10list/Top10List.htm

Superman, WW, and Flash ranked better than Dr. Strange?

Superman and WW ranked better than the Flash?

Yeah, these guys sure know a hell of a lot about comics. They didn't even mention Orion, Green Lantern, etc.

If you think about it they are kind of correct. It is classified as the most POWERFUL not who can beat who. Since superman and wonderwoman already have flash powers, then they would be more powerfull then him since they have other powers at there disposal.

Look at the date it was done in, doctor strange was close to being as powerful as he is from that time ahead. During that time i seen doctor strange get taken out by a chair. Doctor strange now is a god.

You are correct though. It would have been good to put gl and orion up there because honestly, to me they would be above hulk.

I think that they did a good job also putting thor and silver surfer in there spots. I dont see much error with it. They did forget some of the heros BUT the ones that they have named are some of the most powerful. Some of the heros that are on the list have beaten some of the most powerful beings in there universe.

They get a thumbs up from me.

Originally posted by Rorschach
I don't recall what you're referring to. At least give me a issue number.

Ill show you the scan.

Originally posted by carver9
If you think about it they are kind of correct. It is classified as the most POWERFUL not who can beat who. Since superman and wonderwoman already have flash powers, then they would be more powerfull then him since they have other powers at there disposal.

Look at the date it was done in, doctor strange was close to being as powerful as he is from that time ahead. During that time i seen doctor strange get taken out by a chair. Doctor strange now is a god.

You are correct though. It would have been good to put gl and orion up there because honestly, to me they would be above hulk.

I think that they did a good job also putting thor and silver surfer in there spots. I dont see much error with it. They did forget some of the heros BUT the ones that they have named are some of the most powerful. Some of the heros that are on the list have beaten some of the most powerful beings in there universe.

They get a thumbs up from me.

No Captain Marvel, Orion, Any Green Lantern, Martian Manhunter, etc.

Superman and Wonder Woman would not be beating an all out Flash. He is much faster than them. Back in 97, Superman couldn't even fly at light-speed.

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
How?

Speed: Supes is fatser than light
Strength: Supes
Durability: Supes survives super nova's and blast that can take half the galaxy
Skill: Supes has 1000 years of martial arts knowledge over Son Goku

How does Son Goku win?

Originally posted by carver9
Ill show you the scan.

I hope it won't take as long as the scan of Gladiator moving at light speed on Earth you said you would show me.

Also give me a issue number, just to make sure it is from a cannon book.

But it's like Kento said. Someone who can hear every sound on Earth is going to be affected more by a sonic scream than someone who can't.

I Just read a couple of crazy things and it seems that a few have been bringing up some of Goku's low showings, like struggling with a bus. Let's not go there please, Superman has plenty of low showings that contradict his phantasmal power and endurance.

I don't think that pointing out these low showings is getting us any closser to an agreement.

Here ya go. Lets look at a hurt superman.
http://img267.imageshack.us/my.php?image=268224131rv.jpg
http://img149.imageshack.us/my.php?image=334997161wi.jpg

Look at the way he was talking. His words was fumbled.

Originally posted by carver9
Here ya go. Lets look at a hurt superman.
http://img267.imageshack.us/my.php?image=268224131rv.jpg
http://img149.imageshack.us/my.php?image=334997161wi.jpg

Look at the way he was talking. His words was fumbled.

Someone with super hearing been affected by a sonic attack while fighting the rest of the League, and Despero.

That's a really low showing.

and here goes your gladiator feat.
http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/7296/hyperspeed11mv.jpg

I love the cell character but this is pretty simple, Superman 10/10. There was nothing suggesting Cell could travel past light speeds or that he was stonge enough to move planets out of orbit.

Originally posted by Rorschach
Someone with super hearing been affected by a sonic attack while fighting the rest of the League, and Despero.

That's a really low showing.

He didnt fight anything, he just through jonn and that was it. Thats when canary hit him with the sonic scream, that did hurt him. We know that superman has super hearing but we dont know if it was the impact that hurt him. I guess everytime he creates a sonic boom the noise that it creates hurt his ears everytime.

Originally posted by carver9
and here goes your gladiator feat.
http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/7296/hyperspeed11mv.jpg

I said light-speed, not near light-speed.

Originally posted by carver9
He didnt fight anything, he just through jonn and that was it. Thats when canary hit him with the sonic scream, that did hurt him. We know that superman has super hearing but we dont know if it was the impact that hurt him. I guess everytime he creates a sonic boom the noise that it creates hurt his ears everytime.

MM was choking him before. BC let out her scream just as Superman got MM off of him.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
I love the cell character but this is pretty simple, Superman 10/10. There was nothing suggesting Cell could travel past light speeds or that he was stonge enough to move planets out of orbit.

Well theres nothing suggested that says superman can move at light or superman having the ability to move a planet. To my knowledge, I could have sworn that superman needed the help of the martian and wonder woman to move the moon. I could have sworn that superman had to sun dip to move war world a planet the size of pluto, one of the smallest planets in out solar system.

Originally posted by Rorschach
MM was choking him before. BC let out her scream just as Superman got MM off of him.

So i guess the choke weakened him and he lost his durability also. HMMM, well i guess thats all you need is super strength and a loud scream to beat superman.

Originally posted by carver9
Well theres nothing suggested that says superman can move at light or superman having the ability to move a planet. To my knowledge, I could have sworn that superman needed the help of the martian and wonder woman to move the moon. I could have sworn that superman had to sun dip to move war world a planet the size of pluto, one of the smallest planets in out solar system.

Superman has said that he has moved a planet out of orbit.

He pushed War World while it was countering him with the the power of Imperirex and the galaxies he had absorbed.

Originally posted by carver9
So i guess the choke weakened him and he lost his durability also. HMMM, well i guess thats all you need is super strength and a loud scream to beat superman.

A choke from a character that's almost as strong as him and a sonic scream against someone with super hearing who wasn't prepared. And even after all of that, Superman was still resisting Despero's telepathy.