Cell Vs Superman

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
Well, I'm sure you know that anime isn't really canon unless this match is using his anime version? 😕

I know the anime isn't cannon, but most of the people here think it is.

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
But, superman does not constantly take "Galaxy busting shots" which is my point. He's only done a few times, compared to how many punches he's taken. If we count his average's, his best feat should be taking a super nova.

I just did, look above and disagreeing doesn't making me a fanboy. I still maintain that superman will win against Son Goku, so how am I a fanboy? 😬

You are not breaking the full capacity rule btw. As you stated, Superman cannot constantly suck up galaxy destroying shots. Can he suck up some? Sure, but eventually he will wear down. Don't waste your time defending yourself on such a simple matter.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Again, you're breaking the full capacity rule.

"Just because flash doesn't defeat all of his opponents in pico seconds doesn't mean that its viable to use that on these boards."

And, your ignoring SVFL. Flash has constanly displayed ridiculous speeds in almost every comic. Furthermore, his trademark is FTL speeds versus superman who rarely takes Galaxy busting blast.

Originally posted by Creshosk

Where did I say that you WERE a fanboy?

You claimed I was treading into being a "illogical fanboy". Just because I disagree, doesn't make me illogical.

Originally posted by Rorschach
I know the anime isn't cannon, but most of the people here think it is.

No, I was just asking if were using the anime version.

I just dont understand why this battle is still going on. Im about to get off for a few hours but im going to end it by saying this. The reason i think that superman will lose this battle is because 1st he dont have the fighting experience or technique to fight on the level of dbz characters. Superman is so use to fighting bricks that fighting someone in the dbz world would be new to him. He would be overwhelmed and would need complete training to even keep up with someone on krillin level.

Ever brick that superman has fought they either stalemate him, win, or they lose but his speed didnt have anything to do with the lost. All superman do is fly at you an punch and thats not good enough to beat a z character. You have to continously use you speed during battle, none stop. They would consider superman a joke because they would be hitting him from all direction and he wouldnt be able to counter it.

I cant lie superman is extremely durable but he isnt invulnerable like people think that he is. The most common thing that i can think of him being knocked out was when doomsday rammed his head into a mountain knocking him out and when a gas station blew up knocking him out.

I have posted to many scans and you all havent showed me anything that proves that superman can wink out in the span of a millisecond continously hitting his opponent. You all are making up assumptions and false lies just to back you character up. He has never done that in comics and dont have the ability to do so. He will always fight bricks because hes a brick himself that just use his speed for flight. Every villian that superman has if they were to face goku, goku would run circles around them.

Goku has never been hit by someone slower than him but the same cant be said for superman. To me cell wins this 10/10. To me frieza would destroy superman 10/10. I have yet to witness anything that superman has done to even make me think that he would get a win off of cell. I own 100's of superman comics and none have ever given me reason to change my mind. Ill be back on in 2 hours, thanks for the debate.

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
And, your ignoring SVFL.

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
Flash has constanly displayed ridiculous speeds versus superman who rarely takes Galaxy busting blast.

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
You claimed I was treading into being a "illogical fanboy". Just because I disagree, doesn't make me illogical.

Saying that something didn't happen because you don't like it, is illogical.

Originally posted by Creshosk
NO NONCANON SOURCES.

Again you're breaking a rule. Come up with a better excuse, this time one that doesn't break a rule.

Not episode, I meant to say comic.

Originally posted by carver9
Illogical fanboy BS that commits the Supressed Evidence fallacy wishful thinking fallacy and breaks several KMC rules.

🙄

Originally posted by Creshosk
*grins evily* SvFL? What's that? 😈

They rarely come up, when they do he takes them.

Yet, get's knocked out by super nova's and punches?

Originally posted by Creshosk

No, being illogical would make you illogical. It has nothing to do with my opinion.

Saying that something didn't happen because you don't like it, is illogical.

My opinion of the feat is irrelavant to my call on him. I hate superman, and I gave him this fight because he has superior stats. But, this is a clear case of SVFL wether you like it or not.

Originally posted by carver9
wink out in the span of a millisecond continously hitting his opponent.

And where did you get "span of millisecond" from?

I don't even remember the word millisecond been used in Dragonball.

Originally posted by carver9
Not episode, I meant to say comic.

Not much more than a nuke? You really like to break that full capacity rule don't you?

Is that how goku's going to win? By breaking the rules?

Here is supes surviving an island destroying nuke at ground zero WHILE laying in kryptonite AND weakened from fighting multiple enemies for days. He comes out unfazed.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y112/avalonofthewind/supesnuke.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y112/avalonofthewind/supesnuke2.jpg

Originally posted by carver9
Not episode, I meant to say comic.

At least give us the issue number. You seem to just go to respect threads and use scans out of context.

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
Yet, get's knocked out by super nova's and punches?

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
My opinion of the feat is irrelavant to my call on him.

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
I hate superman,

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
and I gave him this fight because he has superior stats. But, this is a clear case of SVFL wether you like it or not.

mwahaha

what does svfl stand for?

Originally posted by Rorschach
At least give us the issue number. You seem to just go to respect threads and use scans out of context.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Breaking the full capacity rule agian. heh...

I'm glad you realize this.

Bias claim.

What's SvFL?

mwahaha

And, your ignoring SVFL, show me supes constantly surviving Galaxy busting blast? Furthermore, full capacity rule is to ensure that people do not bring up instances where characters jo for the sake of stories.

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
And, your ignoring SVFL, show me supes constantly surviving Galaxy busting blast?

mwahaha

Again, I'll askk this one more time before pointing out what I already know, and why I'm laughing...

What's SvFL?

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
Yet, get's knocked out by super nova's and punches?

Again Sandai, we all know you are not breaking Full Capacity and that you were showing that Superman's durability is not an endless pool. Cresh may continue to say that you are but he has done this on multiple occasion. No matter how many times you explain it to him he won't listen. He wil Misinterpret your words and statements to fit into some fallacy for his advantage.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Making up terms that don't exist will not help you win any debates.

mwahaha

Again, I'll askk this one more time before pointing out what I already know, and why I'm laughing...

What's SvFL?

Your asking me what SVFL, when you debated it a few pages ago??

Spiderman vs. Firelord, or SvFL, is a shorthand that refers to any time when a character performs a feat that their powers and skills should be blatantly insufficient for, and is not repeated or is rarely repeated again relative to the character's overall established career, as well as the character's opponents' established showings. In statistical terms, it is an outlier, something that is radically beyond the character's established capabilities.

When has supes constantly been known for Galaxy busting?
Nevermind the fact that supes durability has consistantly been shown to be well below Galaxy busting.

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
Your asking me what SVFL, when you debated it a few pages ago??

Between then and the time I started asking I checked the rules again...

There is no SMvFL rule anymore.

They figured it was PIS and FullCapacity rule breaking on Firelord's part so the extra rule was redundant.

So what's SvFL? mwahaha

🙂

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
Your asking me what SVFL, when you debated it a few pages ago??

When has supes constantly been known for Galaxy busting?
Nevermind the fact that supes durability has consistantly been shown to be well below Galaxy busting.

That's far worse than wikipedia because noone checks any of these things.

I will admit I'm honored to be mentioned in the Urban Dictionary. But its not a valid source of anything.