End up in Hell if you stole a Penny ?

Originally posted by Marchello
All men are responsible for their OWN sins.

Originally posted by Da Pittman
What about the women, I don't want to be doomed alone pitt_fist

He is so blinded by his own mythology that he can't see what you are saying.

He can't even address the possibility of being wrong. The question baffles him.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
He is so blinded by his own mythology that he can't see what you are saying.

Originally posted by Da Pittman
Maybe these will help 😉

More like on of these would better. 😆

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Originally posted by Shakyamunison
But what if you are wrong?

***I am NOT wrong because the Word of God is TRUE and I don't preach from my OWN reasonings as do you and others [i.e., who REJECT Jesus Christ] on this board. "For this cause also thank we God, who without ceasing, because, when ye RECEIVED the Word of God which ye HEARD of us, ye received it NOT as the WORD of MEN, but as it is in TRUTH, the WORD of GOD, which effectually worketh also in you that BELIEVE" [1 Thessalonians 2:13].

Marchello

Originally posted by Marchello
***I am NOT wrong because the Word of God is TRUE and I don't preach from my OWN reasonings as do you and others [i.e., who REJECT Jesus Christ] on this board. "For this cause also thank we God, who without ceasing, because, when ye RECEIVED the Word of God which ye HEARD of us, ye received it NOT as the WORD of MEN, but as it is in TRUTH, the WORD of GOD, which effectually worketh also in you that BELIEVE" [1 Thessalonians 2:13].

Marchello

*["He is so blinded by his own mythology that he can't see what you are saying..."]

***Excuse me? I've read your belief system on these boards...and, baby, it's "way out there"...so don't come mouthing off on these boards and talk about mythology. It really takes a GREATER BELIEF system than mine to believe the fairy-tale system that you believe in.

Too, I give a reason for EVERYTHING I post on these boards and go through great pains to make my position abundantly clear as to WHY I believe the way I do. I know of no others that do that on this board. You may NOT agree or like what I have to say but you cannot, with any crediblity, say that I don't make myself clear.

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*["He can't even address the possibility of being wrong. The question baffles him."]

***I've addressed the issue many times here. I can be wrong personally on many things...but the Word of God is NEVER wrong on ANY ISSUE. Is that plain enough for you?

Marchello

Originally posted by Marchello
***I am NOT wrong because the Word of God is TRUE and I don't preach from my OWN reasonings as do you and others [i.e., who REJECT Jesus Christ] on this board. "For this cause also thank we God, who without ceasing, because, when ye RECEIVED the Word of God which ye HEARD of us, ye received it NOT as the WORD of MEN, but as it is in TRUTH, the WORD of GOD, which effectually worketh also in you that BELIEVE" [1 Thessalonians 2:13].

Marchello

Ah circular reasoning - "I can't be wrong because what I believe is true. How do I know it is true? Because it can't be wrong which means I can't be wrong because what I believe is true..."

And then it goes on forever and forever and forever.

but the Word of God is NEVER wrong on ANY ISSUE. Is that plain enough for you?

Why? If as a member of a faith with an evangelical need to convert and claim the truth then that must mean other faiths, with people just as steadfast as yourself, must be wrong.

If there is one true faith - yours - then there must be a large number of wrong faiths. It seems somewhat... odd that they can all be considered wrong but you are never open to the idea you might be. Afterall - if a person isn't open minded enough to wonder whether their faith may be wrong then they have no chance to find the right faith which will save them.

It is hypocritical to expect others to be open minded enough to consider changing faiths, but proudly say you wont consider the possibility your own is wrong in anyway.

Originally posted by Marchello
***I am NOT wrong

Originally posted by Devil King
Personally, I have a hard time seeing how that mentality is any different than this built-in, viral effect of organized religions. What does it all come down to? A complete and total inability for anyone to admit they're wrong, despite not even knowing if they're right!

*["The 'Word of God' was written by man, man which is a sinner therefore the word of god is written by sinners so how can that be 'true'? 😕"

***"ALL Scripture is given by INSPIRATION of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness" [2 Timothy 3:16]. The sinners that wrote these verses were "forgiven" sinners [i.e., saints of God]...and Jesus Christ remembers their sins NO MORE.

Marchello

Originally posted by Goddess Kali
The [b]basis of the question is would you End up in Hell if you steal a penny?

Now..for the sake of avoiding repetitive and circular arguments, as well as semantics and loose circumstances, I will clarify the confines of the question, so i can get a straight answer:

Let's say a child grows up in a (Christian, Jewish, or Muslim) household, and this child specifically adheres to the teachings of either (the Torah, Bible, or Quran, whichever u beleive) to the best they can, always conciously, and this child's parents have a strict discipline to thier basis of Faith.

The child grows upto teenage years, having never disobeyed a rule, not conciously, always having the intent to serve thier God, to obey thier parents and live by thier Faith as best he or she can.

But one day, this teenager, sees a person drop thier penny on the floor, and steals it.

The stole.

They have sinned, with intention.

They die the day after, without having sed they are sorry, without the slighest bit of remourse, but knowing they have done something against the discipline of thier Faith.

Will this person end up in Hell ? For one sin ? Why or why not ?

* I sincerely Hope someone with brains gets the intent of this question....otherwise, I give up 🙄 [/B]

I think everyone needs to stop asking other people to play God and to stop trying to play God themselves. None of us know what God would do in this situation. We can guess, obviously, but our guesses are based on our own view of how God acts, which probably isn't even close to how He does, being mysterious and all.

Originally posted by Marchello
***I am NOT wrong because the Word of God is TRUE and I don't preach from my OWN reasonings as do you and others [i.e., who REJECT Jesus Christ] on this board. "For this cause also thank we God, who without ceasing, because, when ye RECEIVED the Word of God which ye HEARD of us, ye received it NOT as the WORD of MEN, but as it is in TRUTH, the WORD of GOD, which effectually worketh also in you that BELIEVE" [1 Thessalonians 2:13].

Marchello

Pride comes before the fall.

Originally posted by Marchello
[B]*["He can't even address the possibility of being wrong. The question baffles him."]

***I've addressed the issue many times here. I can be wrong personally on many things...but the Word of God is NEVER wrong on ANY ISSUE. Is that plain enough for you?

Marchello [/B]

I'm not talking about the bible being wrong; I'm talking about you being wrong about the bible.

*["...I'm not talking about the bible being wrong; I'm talking about you being wrong about the bible."]

***Prove what I say about the Bible is wrong.

Marchello

Heres to answering the question which appeared on the title. Simply put, a single sin will not damn you to eternal hell. You will however still have to be punished, but only temporarily in purgatory. This does not mean that everyone will just simply end up in purgatory and will have to burn off all thier sins before entering heaven. There is still the means of eternal damnation.

Originally posted by Marchello
[B]*["...I'm not talking about the bible being wrong; I'm talking about you being wrong about the bible."]

***Prove what I say about the Bible is wrong.

Marchello [/B]

I don't care about what you and the bible are saying. What I'm trying to get across to you is, what if you are wrong. What if you are the problem instead of everyone else?

If you don't take responsibility for your life, including all the flaws, you will never have the power to change it.

Originally posted by Marchello
[B]*["...I'm not talking about the bible being wrong; I'm talking about you being wrong about the bible."]

***Prove what I say about the Bible is wrong.

Marchello [/B]

Or, alternatively prove to us that your interpretation of the Bible is right and beyond reproach. And note - by the definition of evidence a Bible quote is not proof of anything other then your ability to quote the Bible.

Originally posted by Da Pittman
The "Word of God" was written by man, man which is a sinner therefore the word of god is written by sinners so how can that be "true"? 😕

1. That reasoning would only work if all man did was not tell the truth. But apparently, we can do this little thing called telling the truth. You should read more about it, it's in the Bible 😄 😛
2. Many Christians believe that the books in the Bible weren't just scribbled down as offhand comments. These texts were careful constructed with the help of prayer, worship and words from God. Regardless of if you believe what the Bible says to be true or not, you have to respect it as an incredibly well woven piece of literature ✅

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I don't care about what you and the bible are saying. What I'm trying to get across to you is, what if you are wrong. What if you are the problem instead of everyone else?

If you don't take responsibility for your life, including all the flaws, you will never have the power to change it.

I can't answer for Marchello but I'd hope that he can atone for his mistakes and put himself right with the world if he is wrong. If he is wrong and therefore the problem then it would be his call to apologise. But if he is wrong and there is nothing after death but oblivion, everyone faces that fate regardless of their actions. Maybe another belief is right but at least he chose his side and stuck with it.

But what if he is right?

Originally posted by willRules
I can't answer for Marchello but I'd hope that he can atone for his mistakes and put himself right with the world if he is wrong. If he is wrong and therefore the problem then it would be his call to apologise. But if he is wrong and there is nothing after death but oblivion, everyone faces that fate regardless of their actions. Maybe another belief is right but at least he chose his side and stuck with it.

But what if he is right?

You are missing the point: It does not matter if he is right or wrong.