You Cannot Prove Zeus doesn't Exist

Originally posted by Bardock42
It is not really that illogical. Also, Elephants are in a way more powerful. What is it you mean? We seem to be the most powerful on this planet with our destruction power.

Also we have the potential to become more than human. Imagine what humans could achieve if they stopped killing each other...you get the picture. Elephants create spacships that go to Mars. 😐

Originally posted by Bardock42

There might be alien life forms more powerful, but to assume that because there are weaker organisms there also must be Gods in the way you described it is not logical.

Explain. So if you encounter a jungle you expect there to be no lifeforms in it?

Originally posted by Alfheim
Also we have the potential to become more than human. Imagine what humans could achieve if they stopped killing each other...you get the picture. Elephants create spacships that go to Mars. 😐

Yeah, we have lots of potential, though we don't achieve it by natural power I think.

Originally posted by Alfheim

Explain. So if you encounter a jungle you expect there to be no lifeforms in it?

No, I do. And I can find out if there are. If I could find myself in a jungle and could without a doubt explain everything I see in there, without the need of lifeforms, then I wouldn't.

I mean, you say supernovae are caused by "Gods", there is not evidence for that, supernovae can be absolutely and without a doubt be explained by purely natural causes. That a God made them, is to me, just as likely as assuming that a unicorn dances on every black hole. It's an additional assumption, that has no scientific proof whatsoever. Sure I am agnostic towards it (both), but I don't really believe it. Occam's Razor.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Yeah, we have lots of potential, though we don't achieve it by natural power I think.

Ok.

Originally posted by Bardock42

No, I do. And I can find out if there are. If I could find myself in a jungle and could without a doubt explain everything I see in there, without the need of lifeforms, then I wouldn't.

Yes but the point is that you expectthere to be lifeforms in it. Saying its illogical to think there are no other powerful lifeforms is like encountering a jungle and expecting there to be no life in it. 😬

Originally posted by Bardock42

I mean, you say supernovae are caused by "Gods", there is not evidence for that,

When Galileo said there was weigthlesness on the moon I dont think he had any evidence either but im sure he provided a very logical explanation and it could argued that since his explantion was logical it turned out to be true.

Originally posted by Bardock42

supernovae can be absolutely and without a doubt be explained by purely natural causes.

....what was my explanation for this? 😒:

Originally posted by Bardock42

That a God made them, is to me, just as likely as assuming that a unicorn dances on every black hole. It's an additional assumption, that has no scientific proof whatsoever. Sure I am agnostic towards it (both), but I don't really believe it. Occam's Razor.

Well ive provided an explanation for this already. Obvoulsy you dont have to agree but it seems you dont see the significance to the argument.

It could be argued that natural phenemonon does not have to be caused by gods but saying that they probably dont exist is illogical.

Originally posted by Alfheim

Yes but the point is that you [B]expectthere to be lifeforms in it. Saying its illogical to think there are no other powerful lifeforms is like encountering a jungle and expecting there to be no life in it. 😬[/B]

No, that is a flawed analogy.

Originally posted by Alfheim
When Galileo said there was weigthlesness on the moon I dont think he had any evidence either but im sure he provided a very logical explanation and it could argued that since his explantion was logical it turned out to be true.

Maybe. But it is more reasonable of a theory. Yours does not really explain anything. It just assumes the existence of something that we can't see and that out universe does not need.

Originally posted by Alfheim
....what was my explanation for this? 😒:

I am not sure. That we can't witness the Gods acting?

Originally posted by Alfheim
Well ive provided an explanation for this already. Obvoulsy you dont have to agree but it seems you dont see the significance to the argument.

Yes, I don't believe it is a significant argument. It seems in no way more logical than the ones all religions put out there.

Originally posted by Bardock42
No, that is a flawed analogy.

Explain and can you think of a better one?

Originally posted by Bardock42

Maybe. But it is more reasonable of a theory. Yours does not really explain anything. It just assumes the existence of something that we can't see and that out universe does not need.

I am not sure. That we can't witness the Gods acting?

Yes, I don't believe it is a significant argument. It seems in no way more logical than the ones all religions put out there.

Well the thing is you still havnet given me a reason why its logical that they dont exist. I did an edit. Even if you can argue that they do not cause natural phenenom it can still be argued that its likely that they do exist.

Heres the explantion i have provided. We have an infinite amount of space which indicates that there is a good possibility that there is alien life. Hell they even found alien life on Mars but it was bacteria! Hell are you suprised that they found bacteria?

Furthermore as stated before bacteria, insects, animals, humans..whats next? That is a very logical point.....im not being bad but all you have said to be fair is that its not logical. No explanation just a statement.

Originally posted by Alfheim

Well the thing is you still havnet given me a reason why its logical that they dont exist. I did an edit. Even if you can argue that they do not cause natural phenenom it can still be argued that its likely that they do exist.

Heres the explantion i have provided. We have an infinite amount of space which indicates that there is a good possibility that there is alien life. Hell they even found alien life on Mars but it was bacteria! Hell are you suprised that they found bacteria?

I am not sure if they actually found bacteria, but no, I wouldn't necessarily be surprised.

You assume we have an infinite amount of space. YOU DO NOT KNOW THAT.
You assume we have an infinite amount of time. YOU DO NOT KNOW THAT.
You don't really know how unlike life like ours is. Your theory is not supported by evidence or statistics.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Furthermore as stated before bacteria, insects, animals, humans..whats next? That is a very logical point.....im not being bad but all you have said to be fair is that its not logical. No explanation just a statement.

No, it is not. We know how humans came here. Evolution. Nothing implies that something as powerful as you think exists, or can exist. And even if it can, why do you think it does already, it is not logical.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I am not sure if they actually found bacteria, but no, I wouldn't necessarily be surprised.

Ok could you please explain why your not suprised?

Originally posted by Bardock42

You assume we have an infinite amount of space. YOU DO NOT KNOW THAT.
You assume we have an infinite amount of time. YOU DO NOT KNOW THAT.

If the universe has always existed then its infinite isnt. it? If you like we can forget about that and just say the universe is a big place therefore increasing the posibilites of other lifeforms.

Originally posted by Bardock42

You don't really know how unlike life like ours is.

..how is that relevant.

Originally posted by Bardock42

Your theory is not supported by evidence or statistics.

Er bro....I know and I provided an explanation....so theres no point in bringing this point up again.

Originally posted by Bardock42

No, it is not. We know how humans came here. Evolution.

Right so because we know that humans came here by evoultion that means that there are no other powerful alien lifeforms in the uinverse? Thats compeletly irrelevant.

Originally posted by Bardock42

Nothing implies that something as powerful as you think exists, or can exist. And even if it can, why do you think it does already, it is not logical.

Again your just making a statement. Was the fact that because we know humans came here by evolution supposed to give a logical explanation of why there cant be other powerful alien lifeforms? Your not suprised that bacteria was found on Mars but you think its illogical to think to think other powerful aliens exist. Again no explanation just a statement.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Ok could you please explain why your not suprised?

Because, if there are similar circumstances to earth they there could be life like on earth. But I am not sure if they actually found anything.

Originally posted by Alfheim

If the universe has always existed then its infinite isnt. it? If you like we can forget about that and just say the universe is a big place therefore increasing the posibilites of other lifeforms.

You don't know whether the Universe has always existed. Or in what way. You are assuming a lot here. We know that the one we life in is only a few 10 billion years old.

Originally posted by Alfheim

..how is that relevant.

If it is extremely unlikely there probably won't be other life forms in our universe.

Originally posted by Alfheim

Er bro....I know and I provided an explanation....so theres no point in bringing this point up again.

No, I am saying your explanation is invalid. The point is important so it has to be brought up again.

Originally posted by Alfheim

Right so because we know that humans came here by evoultion that means that there are no other powerful alien lifeforms in the uinverse? Thats compeletly irrelevant.

No, I did not say that. I am saying there is no evidence for such beings, nor a way how they could have come about.

Originally posted by Alfheim

Again your just making a statement. Was the fact that because we know humans came here by evolution supposed to give a logical explanation of why there cant be other powerful alien lifeforms? Your not suprised that bacteria was found on Mars but you think its illogical to think to think other powerful aliens exist. Again no explanation just a statement.

No, I gave you reasons. Nothing points in the direction you want. There's no evidence for your statements. They are not even particularly likely. I am sorry, but though your theories are nice, it is no better or more convincing than all the other Religion's theories.

I like it, just, you know, no reason to believe.

take it easy boys 😆

Originally posted by SpearofDestiny
take it easy boys 😆

Originally posted by Bardock42
We stopped 3 days ago.

I know, im just bumping the thread 😆

Die.

Originally posted by lord xyz
Die.

Grow up

Originally posted by SpearofDestiny
You can't prove [b]Zeus doesn't exist[/B]

It can not be that hard to find out 🙂

Visit the mountain Olympus in Greece and we will see 😄

Originally posted by C. C. Cowgirl
[b]It can not be that hard to find out 🙂

Visit the mountain Olympus in Greece and we will see 😄 [/B]

Someone can say it's a metaphysical realm 😆

Then I simply say I can walk between realms 🙄

i sorta like japanese mythology more. takamagahara. izanagi. tsukiyomi/amaterasu/susano/sakuya/kyuubi/inugami/kodama/chakras/urochi etc etc. also chinese ones. id even prefer egyptian.

greek is not as mystical or interesting.

The point in this thread is not the greek mythology 😛

Originally posted by C. C. Cowgirl
[b]Then I simply say I can walk between realms 🙄 [/B]

You would have to prove it though

No pictures or recording of any kind is allowed, therefore you will have to trust my words ✅