Originally posted by Newjak
Except Spiderman and Wolverine and Captain America and Slade and even Batman(some times) have all pulled off similar feats throughout their career in more times "Than once in a blue moon"
None of them have moved a good 10 yards and back to take something from their opponent
while the guy was looking at them the whole time. That's mainly what's so impressive about that particular feat.
Originally posted by Newjak
By the way the guy that could throw 100 punches in a second. Isn't that what he said. You know he said he could do that doesn't mean he can it's called hyperbole. All we know is Hiei was fast enough to cut him 16 times as he was charging to punch Hiei. Fast but not exceptional speed for a comic book character.
He was describing what the attack was right after pulling it off. That's generally how people roll in Shonen manga, which is they explain how their abilities work so the reader knows what just happened.
If they didn't, our only other option is to basically count or estimate, and we sure as hell can't do that in one panel.
Originally posted by Newjak
People are reaching here oh Genkai grabbed the guys fake nose really fast. Spiderman and Wolverine could never do thatEven though it is things they commonly do all the time just go check their respect threads. Move to fast for normal people to react.
You're kind of missing the point here. It's not like she just walked up to him and play the the "the hand is faster than the eye" trick by swiping his nose. She did it while at the very edge of the ring while the man was still standing in the middle.
And the guy was far from a normal person either. He was a relatively powerful demon who had some degree of superspeed of his own (he could react just fine to Kuwabara, who way before that point was a bonfide bullet timer).
Originally posted by Newjak
And its not comparing apples and oranges it shows when they are actually using measurable speed we see they really aren't that fast. Their best speed feats are when they face eachother and we see them fighting fast therefore they must be super fast right. Thats great logic to use but it's not and use of that kind of logic would get you laughed at if this were American Comics vs American Comics.
Even when comparing American comics, we've come to note there's a big difference between someone's combat speed (apples) and travel speed (oranges).
Take Thor for instance. The guy has shown he can fly at 3X the speed of light, but most of the time in a fight he can hardly react to people who can't even move at the speed of sound.
For series like YYH and DBZ, you have to apply some ABC logic, like
Toguro = Yusuke>> Saint Beasts Hiei>>>>> Blue Dragon guy (forget his name)
Originally posted by Newjak
Colossus is more durable then Teguro and has been shown to take whatever Teguro could hope to dish physically. He has been shown to fight guys as fast as Teguro before in Wolverine and Spiderman.
The problem is Toguro is a great deal faster than Colossus, Spider-Man, or Wolverine. Even if he was only as fast as Spider-Man, combined with his feroucious power, that wold still be enough to keep leaping around and keep pounding away at Petey.
Even if you take into account he goes to 100%, his thumb strength alone was more enough against Yusuke than his 80% powered body, which say leaps and bounds about the difference between 100% and 80% for Toguro. When you remember that most of his greatest strength and durability feats took place when he was at 80% or lower (like carrying the ring across the island), than he's easily strong enough to hurt Colossus.
