Re: Re: Re: Why do some enjoy seeing others down/fall?
Originally posted by miss_swann
I don't like seeing others fall down to join me unless they tripped me.
i don't like it either way, i don't need to see someone fall down the same path i did, even if they pushed and i've had that happen PLENTY of times in my life. i don't know how many times i forgave a person(s) for hurting me.
Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
I don't take pleasure in the misfortune of others, that is what makes me weird and strange and odd.
That's disgusting. We normal people don't enjoy seeing others fail. there must be something really horribly wrong with you. I find you really disgusting. I can't understand that, how you can be so jealous. It's weird.
Originally posted by Bardock42
That's disgusting. We normal people don't enjoy seeing others fail. there must be something really horribly wrong with you. I find you really disgusting. I can't understand that, how you can be so jealous. It's weird.
reversing the script so that it appears that i'm the one that likes to see people fall, i saw through that a couple of posts ago, but i thought it would go away.
sad.
and yes, i'm strange for NOT enjoying people fail, and not wanting to see people fall, even if they pushed me down. that is what makes me strange or weirdo.
Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
reversing the script so that it appears that i'm the one that likes to see people fall, i saw through that a couple of posts ago, but i thought it would go away.sad.
and yes, i'm strange for NOT enjoying people fail, and not wanting to see people fall, even if they pushed me down. that is what makes me strange or weirdo.
Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
Brintey Spears. That's another one that you social folks raised up to the top and enjoy seeing her down.I do not like our social system of degrading people who we once supported financially and socially, and then, for whatever reason unknown to me and others, that person is now the object of ridicule and shame, defaced (esp. Tevin Campbell),and to the amusement of those who may have enjoyed that person's art/skill. Approving of someone to release their sexual side, and then, mock them for being a freak or weirdo or ***, horrible. I would rather not even support them to the top, so that I'm one less person that pushed them so far above, that their decent down is terrible and beyond my approval and ability to help.
You're not strange and different because you enjoy other people's pleasure, Czarina. You're a weirdo because you believe in things that aren't there, are possibly the least intelligent peson on this forum; including that Fuze-lover lass.
You're a racist, a hypocrite, a spaz and just a general annoying bint. That's what makes you a weirdo.
Originally posted by chillmeistergen
You're not strange and different because you enjoy other people's pleasure, Czarina. You're a weirdo because you believe in things that aren't there, are possibly the least intelligent peson on this forum; including that Fuze-lover lass.You're a racist, a hypocrite, a spaz and just a general annoying bint. That's what makes you a weirdo.
Sir, the very things you use and benefit from are MOST likely from people who are socially weird by your standards.
And I explained irrationality to you, it only means the lack of prior knowledge, which means using the senses or mysticism, if you find that weird, that's your right.
And funny how a person labeled a racist has done so much for the black community. Funny.
If you find me a spaz or whatever, that's your choice.
NO, I think I am weird b/c I actually care about others.
Originally posted by Czarina_CzarinaWhat did you do for the black community?
Sir, the very things you use and benefit from are MOST likely from people who are socially weird by your standards.And I explained irrationality to you, it only means the lack of prior knowledge, which means using the senses or mystism, if you find that weird, that's your right.
And funny how a person labeled a racist has done so much for the black community. Funny.
If you find me a spaz or whatever, that's your choice.
NO, I think I am weird b/c I actually care about others.
And, if you feel good by caring about others I am happy for you...
Originally posted by Bardock42
What did you do for the black community?And, if you feel good by caring about others I am happy for you...
1. volunteered to tutor math/science
2. wrote petitions to grant busing in areas/routes that weren't allowing "blacks" (the folks in the area were saying it was racism that was keeping the bus routes restricted), both written petitions were granted and was given a letter stating based on the arguments, they were allowing bus routes in those areas once restricted.
3. wrote press release(s) to stop gun violence in inner city area near Ga. Tech (as these students are from all over the world, engineers, and would have to deal with news reports of inner city gun battles, not good news to report back to the parents, plus, children were dying). The press release made FRONT headlines and the newly elected official showed up to the gathering to stop gun violence in the inner city, and soon afterward, was elected,majorty vote.
4. argued on the behalf of blacks who felt they were the victims of racism (3-4 different times).
5. marched against the klan, when they were in Atlanta, per the request of others who made false claims as to why the klan was even marching.
And much much more, it's not for me to brag or make any issues of it. It's just ironic to be labeled racist.
I think some folks confused disliking cultural aspects of a group, I can dislike something, but if I never bother your income, housing, ect. why bother that person or heckle them?
Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
1. volunteered to tutor math/science
2. wrote petitions to grant busing in areas/routes that weren't allowing "blacks" (the folks in the area were saying it was racism that was keeping the bus routes restricted), both written petitions were granted and was given a letter stating based on the arguments, they were allowing bus routes in those areas once restricted.
3. wrote press release(s) to stop gun violence in inner city area near Ga. Tech (as these students are from all over the world, engineers, and would have to deal with news reports of inner city gun battles, not good news to report back to the parents, plus, children were dying). The press release made headlines and the newly elected official showed up to the gathering to stop gun violence in the inner city, and soon afterward, was elected,majorty vote.
4. argued on the behalf of blacks who felt they were the victims of racism (3-4 different times).And much much more, it's not for me to brag or make any issues of it. It's just ironic to be labeled racist.
Well, you do talk very negatively about black males, you do realize that, right?
Originally posted by Bardock42
Well, you do talk very negatively about black males, you do realize that, right?
it doesn't matter, black males talk negatively about black females. so what of it? some of them can't stand women at all, and i am female. so what of it to anyone, i read what they have to say, and allow them to get their issues off of their chest, i'm not going to heckle them, reduce them in life, brand them, cause them to lose their job, eat their income, or enjoy their down fall b/c they spoke their mind. you have no idea who i am, if you think i would go after someone who doesn't like me as a female, or mixed person, or someone who is dark colored or who has some black features, you don't know me, if you think i would hurt someone who doesn't like me or voiced a general opinion about a feature that i happen to have. you don't know me, if you think i would attack someone under those circumstance, even if i had full power to do so without consequence, i wouldn't bother them at all, let'm speak, it's his right and maybe there are truths to his experience(s), i wouldn't be his heckler or his oppressor, and plenty of black men talk baldy about females, all the time. so what of it? should they be out of jobs? or reduced? or heckled? it's his OPINION. freedom of speech, if he doesn't like women, or black women, or all women, that's his right to say it. and i'm the last to ask him to shut it up. even if he wasn't black, i really don't require to shut their opinions off.
you can dislike me and i will leave you at peace. you liking or disliking me, has nothing to do with me liking myself, it's simply your opinion. when i state that i care about people, it's not a care for their approval, it's a general care about wellbeing.
remember the story about the kid i grew up with, who was in the klan? i wasn't telling that story to state that i wanted to join the klan, if anyone read it that way, they should re-read what was written. that story was an analogy, stating that i don't have to be around someone who dislike my very skin color, as long as they leave me alone, don't bother me. if someone has my same color and bothers me, that would be a problem. if someone has the power to problem my job, my income,my home b/c they read this stuff and found that they are black and proud and ashamed that i wrote this, they are projecting big time. as i never put my hand on anyone who is minority or white or whatever, and i never used my job to hurt someone just b/c of their background. so it's really a case of oppressing someone b/c they spoke their mind and that's a constitutional right (and yes, i know that blacks weren't given a lot of rights under the constitution such as freedom of speech, maybe that's why they tried to gather some sort of sympathy based on words).
Originally posted by Czarina_CzarinaBut I am sure not all are like that. Those I met were very nice individuals. A few I know on here are great. You understand that it is pretty racist to talk like that about all black males.
it doesn't matter, black males talk negatively about black females. so what of it? some of them can't stand women at all, and i am female. so what of it to anyone, i read what they have to say, and allow them to get their issues off of their chest, i'm not going to heckle them, reduce them in life, brand them, cause them to lose their job, eat their income, or enjoy their down fall b/c they spoke their mind. you have no idea who i am, if you think i would go after someone who doesn't like me as a female, or mixed person, or someone who is dark colored or who has some black features, you don't know me, if you think i would hurt someone who doesn't like me or voiced a general opinion about a feature that i happen to have. you don't know me, if you think i would attack someone under those circumstance, even if i had full power to do so without consequence, i wouldn't bother them at all, let'm speak, it's his right and maybe there are truths to his experience(s), i wouldn't be his heckler or his oppressor, and plenty of black men talk baldy about females, all the time. so what of it? should they be out of jobs? or reduced? or heckled? it's his OPINION. freedom of speech, if he doesn't like women, or black women, or all women, that's his right to say it. and i'm the last to ask him to shut it up. even if he wasn't black, i really don't require to shut their opinions off.
Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
it doesn't matter, black males talk negatively about black females. so what of it? some of them can't stand women at all, and i am female. so what of it to anyone, i read what they have to say, and allow them to get their issues off of their chest, i'm not going to heckle them, reduce them in life, brand them, cause them to lose their job, eat their income, or enjoy their down fall b/c they spoke their mind. you have no idea who i am, if you think i would go after someone who doesn't like me as a female, or mixed person, or someone who is dark colored or who has some black features, you don't know me, if you think i would hurt someone who doesn't like me or voiced a general opinion about a feature that i happen to have. you don't know me, if you think i would attack someone under those circumstance, even if i had full power to do so without consequence, i wouldn't bother them at all, let'm speak, it's his right and maybe there are truths to his experience(s), i wouldn't be his heckler or his oppressor, and plenty of black men talk baldy about females, all the time. so what of it? should they be out of jobs? or reduced? or heckled? it's his OPINION. freedom of speech, if he doesn't like women, or black women, or all women, that's his right to say it. and i'm the last to ask him to shut it up. even if he wasn't black, i really don't require to shut their opinions off.you can dislike me and i will leave you at peace. you liking or disliking me, has nothing to do with me liking myself, it's simply your opinion. when i state that i care about people, it's not a care for their approval, it's a general care about wellbeing.
remember the story about the kid i grew up with, who was in the klan? i wasn't telling that story to state that i wanted to join the klan, if anyone read it that way, they should re-read what was written. that story was an analogy, stating that i don't have to be around someone who dislike my very skin color, as long as they leave me alone, don't bother me. if someone has my same color and bothers me, that would be a problem. if someone has the power to problem my job, my income,my home b/c they read this stuff and found that they are black and proud and ashamed that i wrote this, they are projecting big time. as i never put my hand on anyone who is minority or white or whatever, and i never used my job to hurt someone just b/c of their background. so it's really a case of oppressing someone b/c they spoke their mind and that's a constitutional right (and yes, i know that blacks weren't given a lot of rights under the constitution such as freedom of speech, maybe that's why they tried to gather some sort of sympathy based on words).
Methinks you care WAY too much about these issues.
Originally posted by Bardock42
But I am sure not all are like that. Those I met were very nice individuals. A few I know on here are great. You understand that it is pretty racist to talk like that about all black males.
there are black men who dislike black females. you will never hear me attack that person, at all. as long as they don't do anything to hurt that person's ability in life, i leave them alone. if i have to, i'll ask about their upbringing and try to connect the dots and see where the root lies, and if i can find it and someone asks, i'll talk about it, but i am not going to play god and ask him to love all black females or white females or any females.
people are like the pallet on your tongue, if you like apples, but i don't, what does that mean to you. the universe is LARGE, HUGE, expansive. if you like carrots, but i hate it, what is that to anyone?
I know you are from Europe, and I am not sure about all European laws, but we have freedom of speech here. someone can talk about Bush and relate it to all hicks across this country, and you may know some really kind hicks, but to them, they want to verbally attack Bush, well, I don't interven. I don't tell'm they hate hicks and I know great hicks who are wonderful. I let'm talk. Their right to talk. If I try to hurt their family, income,job, love life, b/c they said they found a pattern in most hicks (maybe i read it as all hicks), why the heck am I going to bother their life? if i disagree, i disagree, that's the beauty of speech, it's words, not fighting words to oppress someone.