Jena 6

I'm not sure any of you actually looked into this enough to actually know what happened in depth.

The black kids did not just beat that guy's ass cause he hackled one of them one afternoon. This is over a span of time in which a lot of things happened.

People want to say race does not matter and words are just words. Not really true. Sex is sex but there is more than biology that goes into that - more often than not, someone is catching feelings and the other is just getting theirs (if we are talking pre-martial sex).

Black people get affirmative action and some of you seem really pissed about it. This would ignore a lot of things about society. Yeah there are a lot of white people getting screwed also, but they mean just as much as any person with no capital. Race is just a distraction for the "have nots."

I really wish people would just get over themselves.

I've never understood the people that say things like 'words are words', it really is pathetic. Most of these people people lack any intellectual depth, and do not see the impact of the connotation that accompanies certain words.

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
I've never understood the people that say things like 'words are words', it really is pathetic. Most of these people people lack any intellectual depth, and do not see the impact of the connotation that accompanies certain words.

How about the connotation of bits of string?

It's because the money ticket talks and can buys lobbiest/judges and lawyers to the freedom train. Jump on board if you have a ticket.

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
I've never understood the people that say things like 'words are words', it really is pathetic. Most of these people people lack any intellectual depth, and do not see the impact of the connotation that accompanies certain words.

To a degree, yes, you are right. Also, (insults) words do not have power, unless you allow them too. If I called you a "n!gger", you probably wouldn't care. Why? You'd probably say, because I am not black and I never faced the racial repression, which that word is associated with.

Guess what, no black person alive today, with the exception of some senior citizens who call still recall Jim Crow and the Civil Rights movement did either. If the word "n!gger" has some magical sway of oppression over people by itself, then blacks should be the first to stop using it.

Granted, I don't use the word either because the sole existence of the word is too harm/insult, but seriously, the word has no power unless the ones at the receiving end empower it. Same goes for Cracker, kike, WOP, spick, chink etc.

There's a HUGE difference between a black person referring to another black person who is a friend as their "nigga" and a white person calling a black person a "n!gger."

That said, if black people are okay with using it in a friendly fashion, then they shouldn't have any problem with a white person doing so as well, if they do, then they themselves shouldn't use it either b/c it holds the same meaning whether friendly or derogatory when coming out of either a white or black person's mouth.

In no way, shape or form should the word be used derogatorily, no matter white or black.

anata wa wakarimasu ka.....

I wasn't referring to the word "nigga".

Yeah, what I said.

Well you said blacks should be the first to stop.

Surely you weren't referring to the world "n!gger" when saying blacks should stop using the word as if we have blacks going around calling each other "n!ggers" in a derogatory manner.

Because that's not the problem.

Not what you said.

anata wa wakarimasu ka.....

Originally posted by InnerRise
Well you said blacks should be the first to stop.

Surely you weren't referring to the world "n!gger" when saying blacks should stop using the word as if we have blacks going around calling each other "n!ggers" in a derogatory manner.

Because that's not the problem.

Not what you said.

anata wa wakarimasu ka.....

Yes, I did.

Yes, I was, I in fact, said "n!gger", which is the word I am referring to. I have personally seen it myself; I am certain others have too.

See above, the word in fact is used by blacks to other blacks; derogatorily.

Yes, what I said.

Originally posted by Robtard
To a degree, yes, you are right. Also, (insults) words do not have power, unless you allow them too. If I called you a "n!gger", you probably wouldn't care. Why? You'd probably say, because I am not black and I never faced the racial repression, which that word is associated with.

Guess what, no black person alive today, with the exception of some senior citizens who call still recall Jim Crow and the Civil Rights movement did either. If the word "n!gger" has some magical sway of oppression over people by itself, then blacks should be the first to stop using it.

Granted, I don't use the word either because the sole existence of the word is too harm/insult, but seriously, the word has no power unless the ones at the receiving end empower it. Same goes for Cracker, kike, WOP, spick, chink etc.

chilli has tried to insult me for a long time, if i allowed words to bother me, i would have been like this 😠 but, i tend to be like this 😎 so words, ugly fugly words...what can we do with them but not take ownership of the thoughts of others unless it causes lose of income, bad reputation, etc.

i had an interesting thing happen to me while in college. i had two college roommates that were cheerleaders (how the heck did that happen, i don't know, i would have preferred geeks for roommates), anyway, one was born in Hungry. so, the one that's part-hungarian, she had a view on what it means to be "dark", and she tried to push that on me and i would just ignore her, as she was never around dark skinned ppl, so how would she know who i should be or how i should think. so, one day, she invites a black guy over and they turn up a rap song that kept saying the word n!gger over and over and over. they both just looked at me, studying my reaction, i was in the kitchen and just was amazed at her and him. i looked thru that black guy as if he was glass, and i looked at her as if she was trash, and i walked away. i expect more from her, b/c we are in the same house, so that was very foolish on her part, but she already knew my reaction, i doubt she would have done that to a real live n*gger, trust me, she knows the difference. and for the black guy, i felt like he doesn't know me, so why would he participate in doing something to someone he doesn't know. she had issues anyway. i caught her smoking a drug one day, i know that's the college experience, but she took some sort of ownership of the college, and assumed someone like "me" didn't belong. i wished we were never roommates, not b/c of her skin color, but b/c of her mentality.

Originally posted by Robtard
Yes, I did.

Yes, I was, I in fact, said "n!gger", which is the word I am referring to. I have personally seen it myself; I am certain others have too.

See above, the word in fact is used by blacks to other blacks; derogatorily.

Yes, what I said.

2 completely different things as you even pointed out yourself. You were referring to blacks using it derogatorily towards other blacks.

I wasn't it.

And I'm just saying that it's not as crucial a problem as white people going around using it derogatorily.

You don't hear about black on black prejudice on the news and that's not even what this thread is about.

I just don't see the point in even bringing that to light in THIS THREAD to try and further one's stance on the matter.

It's not as if we have Black people that use it derogatorily going around and telling other white people, who think the same way they do about other black people, to stop using it b/c it offends them when they're just as prejudice as well.

What you said really only applies to blacks who don't use it derogatorily, but in a friendly manner, who don't like white people using it whether derogatorily or non derogatorily.

(God I'm tired of that word now)

Anata wa wakarimasu ka.....

Originally posted by BlueDMighty
Damn straight.

If putting my BLACK FIST in the air makes me a racist

I'll be dat, I'll be dat, I'll be dat, I'll be dat, I'll be dat

And **** anybody that reps their hood and not their People.

For shame ❌

Originally posted by chithappens
I'm not sure any of you actually looked into this enough to actually know what happened in depth.

The black kids did not just beat that guy's ass cause he hackled one of them one afternoon. This is over a span of time in which a lot of things happened.

People want to say race does not matter and words are just words. Not really true. Sex is sex but there is more than biology that goes into that - more often than not, someone is catching feelings and the other is just getting theirs (if we are talking pre-martial sex).

Black people get affirmative action and some of you seem really pissed about it. This would ignore a lot of things about society. Yeah there are a lot of white people getting screwed also, but they mean just as much as any person with no capital. Race is just a distraction for the "have nots."

I really wish people would just get over themselves.

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Originally posted by Creshosk
Actually I'd say its more of the "Free the kids who nearly beat someone to death because they're black and their victim was white." Attitude you're taking.

And any of that justifies 6 people beating another nearly to death?

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I would like to know what the rage was about, b/c like the story about the lady who ran over her husband for cheating, she killed him but kept running over the body 10x {and again, when i think of marriage, i don't think of ownership, no one owns you, your spouse doesn't own you to hurt your life, not by killing or poising or witchcrat or hitting you, if they try to hurt you that way, it becomes an issue of the law b/c that person doesn't own you, they are not your property}, she was in a rage, what was that about?

back to jena....what's the MAJOR issue? it's not about some simple fight, there's something else that was brewing. 6 ppl, it was as if they were using him to vent. why was it 6ppl? i would like to know if the rage is about being segragated? the laws? if that's really the issue, then i don't know, lousianna, my God. I heard things about Louisanna, most of my life, it's not good.

better laws ???

Originally posted by InnerRise
When I said "not what you said", I'm referring to the fact that what I said is not what you said.

2 completely different things as you even pointed out yourself. You were referring to blacks using it derogatorily towards other blacks.

I wasn't it.

And I'm just saying that it's not as crucial a problem as white people going around using it derogatorily.

You don't hear about black on black prejudice on the news and that's not even what this thread is about.

I just don't see the point in even bringing that to light in THIS THREAD to try and further one's stance on the matter.

It's not as if we have Black people that use it derogatorily going around and telling other white people, who think the same way they do about other black people, to stop using it b/c it offends them when they're just as prejudice as well.

What you said really only applies to blacks who don't use it derogatorily, but in a friendly manner, who don't like white people using it whether derogatorily or non derogatorily.

(God I'm tired of that word now)

Anata wa wakarimasu ka.....

What in the world are you talking about...

Chill brought up 'the connotations of certain words'; that is what I was addressing and making a point about. If you were not referring to anything of that nature, why directly reply to my post with something irrelevant, Czarina has cornered that market; we don't need competition.

Originally posted by Robtard
What in the world are you talking about...

Chill brought up 'the connotations of certain words'; that is what I was addressing and making a point about. If you were not referring to anything of that nature, why directly reply to my post with something irrelevant, Czarina has cornered that market; we don't need competition.

thanks

(ran out of time again, sorry)...

I had a situation happen many years ago in Orlando.

I went to a club (with my brother), and there was suppose to be a raper there (he never showed up). Well, there was an issue with overcrowding and the lack of a clear exit, some reported that our exit was locked....something happened and everyone had to leave. But b/c it was so packed, we were like slow moving herds (made me feel uncomfortable to be in that situation, one panic attack and ppl could be killed).

All of the sudden, we were at a stand still, but, some of us could see what was going on outside, there was a black kid outside, and there were cops, the cops were sicking the dogs on the kid. Once my brother and I saw that, I whispered to him, asking to get the tag number of the cop car and start logging information. We were still in a stand still. I noticed others saw it too, and there was one white guy there, I remember thinking to him, trying to pychically tell him to RUN, and I kept repeating that in my head, and he heard me, and he sneered at me and I started to pray. A fist, I saw a fist in the air, and I reached out to stop it, but someone held back my hand, it was my brother (and he was a wrestler, 7% body fat, he's much more stronger then I), and he dragged me away, I don't even recall how we were able to push through the crowd, but I know that kid was getting beat up. When we walked passed the cops, they were so focused on controlling this kid with the dog, I couldn't tell them anything, I tried to let them know that something bad is happening inside. My brother kept me by the arms (strong hold) and moved me along. He said that I would have been beat up with that white kid if I would've caught the fist. I don't know. I do not enjoy t!t-for-tats or any kind of group fights, even as a kid, it's not a spector sport, it wasn't when i saw the black kid being bitten by the dogs, and it wasn't when i saw the white kid being beaten up inside that club. it's a t!t-for-tat game, but it costs lives. I don't like racial group thinking, I know ppl want others to be in that mentality, but it hurts our country.

I really believe that the reason why they hurt that white kid is b/c they felt that going thru the legal channels wouldn't work, or it would just be a way of tracking ppl down or harassing the witnesses, etc. I think they truly felt that there wouldn't be justice for that kid that was being hurt by those dogs biting him.

And my prayers have been for the white kid inside the club, AND for the black kid that was getting bit by the dogs. the kid inside the clud had no idea they were going to hurt him, and I felt it wasn't good, it was a bad vibe before the fight, it wasn't good. That was the last time I went out to that kind of environment.

All that did was remove one white kid from trusting minorities, mainly blacks. It really is a cause for segregation, even though the intent was t!t-for-tat, the result is that it reinforces segregation, and the troublesome issues with the legal system never gets addressed.

Originally posted by Robtard
FoTN's protege?

I'll assume that you were kidding. I was never that wild. It just seemed so to everyone else.

Originally posted by KidRock
Yeah, like when you're black you get privileges, specific scholarships, Affirmative Action and handouts.

And when you're white you get "hate crime" tacked on to your charge if you ever commit a crime and if your a celebrity you better watch what you say unless you want to be branded a racist and be fired from your job, unless of course your black..then you're just a freedom fighter.

Hey. Blame the historical footing your forefathers took. They didn't think of the lasting effects of their legacy. And this "black privilege" you talk about is microscopic in comparison to planetary sized white privilege.

The popular belief is that whites got a long head start with they way they brutally did it. It's almost like they cheated. Yet with all that power some whites still b*tch about "blacks get this and that, no fair" when the way it was originally done by whites was "no fair" also.

And the thing with if whites say anything they're branded racist it's because, unfortunately, and historically, racism and whiteness were/are synonymous in alot of people's mind in the U.S.

And that's to bad. Racism still lingers and i wish i didn't but it still does and it's probably just as bad as ever. It's just hidden.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Actually I'd say its more of the "Free the kids who nearly beat someone to death because they're black and their victim was white." Attitude you're taking.

In the spirit of "racial unity",

I thought it a better position to take than the

"Lock the White kids up too" one.

Query:

If two white kids can be arrested in Alexandria for driving through the crowd of protesters with nooses displayed in their truck and be charged for insighting a riot (amongst other things),

Why haven't charges been brought against the three white kids that hung nooses on school property?

This being such a "tight" community and all, why did those kids have thier expultion lifted and changed to "in-school" suspension by the school board?

Why would the DA take time out of his day to go and threaten the "student" (we knew who he was talking to) body?

Why would a 22 year old man get battery and probation after attacking a High schooler with a bottle (i.e. a deadly weapon)?

Why set bail for the Jena 6 at $90,000, when the average income for the people that live there is $40,000?

If it was just a prank and there was NO ratial tention, how do you explain the "White" tree?

How do you explain them cutting it down, even going so far as to remove the stump?

At the end of the day you have 6 black kids being made an example of.

They're trying to say "Stay in your place"

But I'm saying Mugh**** Dat.

No JUSTICE

Don't SLEEP ❌

Originally posted by KidRock
Yeah, like when you're black you get privileges, specific scholarships, Affirmative Action and handouts.

And when you're white you get "hate crime" tacked on to your charge if you ever commit a crime and if your a celebrity you better watch what you say unless you want to be branded a racist and be fired from your job, unless of course your black..then you're just a freedom fighter.

Affirmative Action hurts JUST as many qualified Black people, by creating a "First come" "first serve" environment.

The word Quota contradicts the "equality for everyone" spirit of the action.

I'm black. I want to make a come up. I'm sick & tired of being sick & tired.

Tell me of these "Special Privileges" you speak of (Is it anything like White privilege?). If so, I've been doin this all wrong apparently, and am indeed missing out on my Blackness.

To what "Hand outs" do you refer?

do you mean like:

Handing out Jail time?

Handing out Police brutality and excessive force?

Handing out Voter Suppression?

Handing out discrimination?

Handing out misinformation?

Handing out Civil Rights?

Handing out Jim Crow?

Handing out guns?

Handing out bullets?

Handing out drugs (cocaine, crack, and heroine)?

Handing out ropes?

Handing out the shackles?

Handing out whips?

Handing out "cruises"?

Handing out Disease?

Handing out reservations?

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