Originally posted by Bardock42
Oh...I made it up.
****... didnt read it properly I am feeling kinda mashed right now..you know.
Originally posted by Bardock42
You know that we are the government? It is our money that the government spends.
So? You pay taxes but the Govt uses those taxes. I dunno to an extent we are the Govt but they do what they like wether we like it or not...so im not sure about that.
Originally posted by AlfheimIt's a representative system. We choose them. And I am sure many have agendas that are very self centered. The thing is, by making the governments pay, you do not hit the people that are responsible.
****... didnt read it properly I am feeling kinda mashed right now..you know.So? You pay taxes but the Govt uses those taxes. I dunno to an extent we are the Govt but they do what they like wether we like it or not...so im not sure about that.
Originally posted by Bardock42
It's a representative system. We choose them.
You know what im not even sure if thats entirely true...I think Bush rigged the elections and there have been accusations that the Labour govt rigged some as well. Doint corporatations really run America?
Originally posted by Bardock42
And I am sure many have agendas that are very self centered. The thing is, by making the governments pay, you do not hit the people that are responsible.
Well anyway those people in govt that are responsible should pay.
Originally posted by Alfheim
You know what im not even sure if thats entirely true...I think Bush rigged the elections and there have been accusations that the Labour govt rigged some as well. Doint corporatations really run America?
That's conspiracy theories, probably some truths to it, but I was talking theoretically.
Originally posted by Alfheim
*sigh* do you mean NOT responsible?
N-no, I meant what I said.
Originally posted by AlfheimResponsible for what?*
No but I think Governments should be held responsible. Your biggest obligation is friends and family everything else is optional.
And, ermm...
Originally posted by Bardock42
You know that we are the government? It is our money that the government spends.
*Yeah, I'm aware of British history, I'm going to make a point when you tell me what they did.
Originally posted by Alfheim
I edited my post.
Find them and punish them then. We have a saying in Germany "Where there is no judge, there is no executioner" (it sounds better in German), but it is true anyways. Who's going to judge them, who is going to make sure they get punished? Our governments are hardly responsible for that, heck, we probably profited from it. Africans can whine about it, but they can't do anything about it. They should sort out the problems they create internally, really, it's not any countries responsibility to look after the others.
Originally posted by lord xyz
Responsible for what?*And, ermm...
*Yeah, I'm aware of British history, I'm going to make a point when you tell me what they did.
like the third world debt for example that started due to colonisation...selling of arms etc.
Originally posted by Bardock42
Find them and punish them then. We have a saying in Germany "Where there is no judge, there is no executioner" (it sounds better in German), but it is true anyways. Who's going to judge them, who is going to make sure they get punished? Our governments are hardly responsible for that, heck, we probably profited from it. Africans can whine about it, but they can't do anything about it. They should sort out the problems they create internally, really, it's not any countries responsibility to look after the others.
...meh...ok.
Originally posted by Bardock42Wo gibt es keinen Richter, gibt es keinen Scharfrichter.
Find them and punish them then. We have a saying in Germany "Where there is no judge, there is no executioner" (it sounds better in German), but it is true anyways. Who's going to judge them, who is going to make sure they get punished? Our governments are hardly responsible for that, heck, we probably profited from it. Africans can whine about it, but they can't do anything about it. They should sort out the problems they create internally, really, it's not any countries responsibility to look after the others.
And yeah, you make a good point. They shouldn't whine because we won.
Originally posted by AlfheimNot what I expected. I thought you were gonna say we owe them because our ancestors kinda sorta ****ed them over.
like the third world debt for example that started due to colonisation...selling of arms etc....meh...ok.
This is stupid. We owe them because they took our weapons?!
Originally posted by lord xyzThis is stupid. We owe them because they took our weapons?!
its not just that..if that was just one point on its own you could say it stupid...maybe but its one thing amongst many....the debt as well which we incurred from colonisation as welll....dindt asked to be converted to Christanity and colonised you know...I dunno though something tells me if you were a father and you had two sons athat argued alot you would be pretty pissed of with somebody who sold them guns and as a result ended up shotting each other. I think you can say that its stupid just because your not affected by it.
Originally posted by Alfheim
its not just that..if that was just one point on its own you could say it stupid...maybe but its one thing amongst many....the debt as well which we incurred from colonisation as welll....dindt asked to be converted to Christanity and colonised you know...
Did they (parts of Africa) ask to be conquered and converted to Islam? Not sure what your point is.
Originally posted by AlfheimYeah, but I doubt giving them our resources will pay for that.
its not just that..if that was just one point on its own you could say it stupid...maybe but its one thing amongst many....the debt as well which we incurred from colonisation as welll....dindt asked to be converted to Christanity and colonised you know...
And do you realise that by giving them our stuff, you're giving the impression that Africans should be treated differently to Europeans? Come on, that not cool.
Originally posted by Robtard
Did they (parts of Africa) ask to be conquered and converted to Islam? Not sure what you're point is.
My point is that if we were not colonised in the first place we would not have to pay a debt....and thats not our fault. 😐
Originally posted by lord xyz
Yeah, but I doubt giving them our resources will pay for that.
Yeah but it would help;
Originally posted by lord xyz
And do you realise that by giving them our stuff, you're giving the impression that Africans should be treated differently to Europeans? Come on, that not cool.
Doesnt change the fcat that Europe are partially responsible for the debt.
Originally posted by AlfheimEither way. Well you might be mad at them, but they don't owe you anything. Your sons were stupid and killed each other. Case closed.
its not just that..if that was just one point on its own you could say it stupid...maybe but its one thing amongst many....the debt as well which we incurred from colonisation as welll....dindt asked to be converted to Christanity and colonised you know...I dunno though something tells me if you were a father and you had two sons athat argued alot you would be pretty pissed of with somebody who sold them guns and as a result ended up shotting each other. I think you can say that its stupid just because your not affected by it.
Well, they apparently like Christianity so well that they die of AIDS for it. Their ****ing problem again.
It's always whining. They should sort their shit out themselves.
Hey, I am going to do Africa the greatest favour ever....I will teach them a word. The word is "No" , works wonders with arms dealers.
Originally posted by Bardock42
Either way. Well you might be mad at them, but they don't owe you anything. Your sons were stupid and killed each other. Case closed.
Yeah but you wouldnt say that if you were the father, period. Eventhough the kids were stupid you would be pissed at the dealer for selling them the guns and making the situation worse.(for the sake of argument the gun dealer knew they used to argue violently)
You can distance yourself because your not involved but in reality you would be pissed.