Cyborg Superman vs. Silver Surfer

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
And I think the fact that people aren't seeing this for the horrific curbstomp it is, is an indication of bias. stoned

And if Hank could control part of the Source Wall and Apokolips tech, I don't think a motherbox would be a problem. 😉

Let's be quaint here. A motherbox isn't just Apokolips tech it is the pinnacle of it and if it is sentient then Hank would probably be unable to take it over. That is of course if Superman even has one which you don't know for sure.

As for the Source wall. All Hank did was be able to place himself in a body and basically allow himself a small space to move. He even admits he doesn't want to be found because then he is done for.

Originally posted by Newjak
And yet it begins as a finite amount. So until you can prove otherwise SS can simply turn it into sand or atomize it all and the planet Earth it is on. There really isn't a reason why he couldn't.

The burden is on you. Especially considering the circumstances.

Atomize the planet Earth..interesting, are you using SS or what you wish you could do with those powers?

A couple of pac-men on top of SS ftw. 🙂

Originally posted by Newjak
I came to the conslusion based off of the things his tech has done.

i.e. Imprison a Warrior Madness Thor with the Power Gem in a shield
i.e. Transport complete armadas and armies to and from planets
i.e. Used it to turn Galactus into a Gun and imprison him

I think that puts Thanos tech higher than Supes considering nothing in his Fortress can duplicate those feats.

All those can be duplicated. Forcefields, teleportation, manipulation? Nothing special there.

Sounds like you're trying to be as biased as you can be and wanting for attention.

Originally posted by Avlon
The burden is on you. Especially considering the circumstances.

Atomize the planet Earth..interesting, are you using SS or what you wish you could do with those powers?

A couple of pac-men on top of SS ftw. 🙂

All those can be duplicated. Forcefields, teleportation, manipulation? Nothing special there.

Sounds like you're trying to be as biased as you can be and wanting for attention.

Seeing as Silver Surfer has destroyed Planets in the past I am using SS. 😉

Except the power range is very hard to duplicate unless you are trying to say Supes tech can imprison and turn Galactus into a Gun. If you are then well I'm sorry I hate using this word but you are a fanboy. 313

Originally posted by Newjak
Why is the burden on me. The Fortress is matter and Silver Surfer can mainpulate matter from one form to another. It is up to you to prove that the Fortress can resist it.

Let's see, Henshaw can manipulate it as well, the fortress itself can adapt to anything and has tons of alien artifacts...etc.

Surfer get's stomped. Like I said, unless you can show an enemy going to the Fortress and turning it into sand. Meanwhile, SS weaknesses get exploited rather easily.

Sonic shark ftw.

Originally posted by Newjak
Seeing as Silver Surfer has destroyed Planets in the past I am using SS. 😉

Except the power range is very hard to duplicate unless you are trying to say Supes tech can imprison and turn Galactus into a Gun. If you are then well I'm sorry I hate using this word but you are a fanboy. 313

Really? SS has destroyed Earth in canon?

I guess you missed the part of infinitely programmable, and infinitely configurable.

The only Fanboy here is you my friend...but we both know you're just being silly for the sake of attention. 🙂

Originally posted by Avlon
Let's see, Henshaw can manipulate it as well, the fortress itself can adapt to anything and has tons of alien artifacts...etc.

Surfer get's stomped. Like I said, unless you can show an enemy going to the Fortress and turning it into sand. Meanwhile, SS weaknesses get exploited rather easily.

Sonic shark ftw.

Really? SS has destroyed Earth in canon?

I guess you missed the part of infinitely programmable, and infinitely configurable.

The only Fanboy here is you my friend...but we both know you're just being silly for the sake of attention. 🙂

He has destroyed planets and what is Earth oh wait a Planet that's what I thought.

So Hulk has Infinite Strength but he still gets beat down by Thanos. Just because it says it has all these possibilities doesn't mean it will be able to do anything. I do not see the Fortress or anything Kryptonian made containing Galactus. 😉

Originally posted by Newjak
He can change it's shape but he can not turn it into another form. SS can change matter from one form to another. Therefore unless the Fortress can not be matter maniped something you haven't shown then yes SS can just turn it into sand.

He has destroyed planets and what is Earth oh wait a Planet that's what I thought.

So Hulk has Infinite Strength but he still gets beat down by Thanos. Just because it says it has all these possibilities doesn't mean it will be able to do anything. I do not see the Fortress or anything Kryptonian made containing Galactus. 😉

Henshaw would have the full technological capabilities of kryptonian tech, new gods, etc, etc, etc. How the hell would Surfer get out of there alive? This is like facing Tyrant on Galactus's ship, or facing Shazam in the rock of eternity. It's just giving Henshaw the means to curbstomp Surfer.

and it doesn't have to beat Galactus to beat Surfer. 😉 Hell, Doom did it. 😆

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Henshaw would have the full technological capabilities of kryptonian tech, new gods, etc, etc, etc. How the hell would Surfer get out of there alive? This is like facing Tyrant on Galactus's ship, or facing Shazam in the rock of eternity. It's just giving Henshaw the means to curbstomp Surfer.

and it doesn't have to beat Galactus to beat Surfer. 😉 Hell, Doom did it. 😆

Besides what devices does Superman have from the New Gods. What tech and magical artifacts does he have there. Just saying he will get all this awesomely powered stuff doesn't make it true unless you show it.

On the other hand it is common knowledge that Silver Surfer cna change objects from one substance to another. 😛

my thread is less original and less likely to make u laugh 😐

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Henshaw would have the full technological capabilities of kryptonian tech, new gods, etc, etc, etc. How the hell would Surfer get out of there alive? This is like facing Tyrant on Galactus's ship, or facing Shazam in the rock of eternity. It's just giving Henshaw the means to curbstomp Surfer.

and it doesn't have to beat Galactus to beat Surfer. 😉 Hell, Doom did it. 😆

I guess to him turning a childrens toy into Superman's skin is not matter manip.

He's on my ignore list now anyway.

5/10 to each...

Hmmm, maybe, this way, BOTH groups will argue with me...

Originally posted by Avlon
I guess to him turning a childrens toy into Superman's skin is not matter manip.

He's on my ignore list now anyway.

Originally posted by Soljer
5/10 to each...

Hmmm, maybe, this way, BOTH groups will argue with me...

durbeware So you walk where angels fear to tread? 😄 😛

but trick...here i am...angels are all around you...

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
durbeware So you walk where angels fear to tread? 😄 😛

Originally posted by Rufus T Firefly
but trick...here i am...angels are all around you...

😛

hey hey hey....hey....i was a stunt angel in angel's in the outfield...and little nicky....and a night in paris

Originally posted by Rufus T Firefly
hey hey hey....hey....i was a stunt angel in angel's in the outfield...and little nicky....and a night in paris

Don't know that Henshaw guy. All I know is that Silver Surfer whoops Super-Man's arse. It's kind of disappointing that this forum has been overtaken by... Alas, the golden age of this forum is over...

Hank ftw.

There has been no argument against the fact that Surfer could just turn the tech into thin air and be done with it. What would the tech do, since there is NO tech from which to configure itself or program itself with. 😬

"Infinite" can only get you so far, and in this case you need some tech at the very least to produce these infinite results