Cyborg Superman vs. Silver Surfer

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Total bullshit right there. Superman had just been fully REPOWERED by the sacrifice of the Eradicator. Cyborg was the one who was weakened. THE 2ND FREAKING PANEL SAYS SO! haermm And btw, Cyborg isn't killed if you smash his body. He'll just migrate to some other tech and recreate it. Cyborg beamed himself all the way to a little device he put on Doomsday, who was at least a few galaxies away.

Goober said before the final scan that Superman got his powers back? 😕

Damn bottom of the page...

Originally posted by darthgoober

[QUOTE=9466058]Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Total bullshit right there. Superman had just been fully REPOWERED by the sacrifice of the Eradicator. Cyborg was the one who was weakened. THE 2ND FREAKING PANEL SAYS SO! haermm And btw, Cyborg isn't killed if you smash his body. He'll just migrate to some other tech and recreate it. Cyborg beamed himself all the way to a little device he put on Doomsday, who was at least a few galaxies away.

You should try actually reading what's been posted before talking shit...

Originally posted by darthgoober
I was going to leave this thread alone and just leave you to your bias and double standards, but since you've now resorted to flat out lying I guess I'll step in so everyone knows how things really went down...

Wrong, dumb luck had nothing to do with it. He made it out of that ship by reprogramming the damn thing... http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/3738/silversurfer198902421wq6.jpg
http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/2807/silversurfer198902422hm0.jpg
So he was hardly helpless against it.

So being down for a panel or two somehow means that you're absolutely helpless? It funny how you never show the next page where Surfer's gotten rid of all the energy draining devices(which again means that he was hardly helpless against them)...
http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/4857/silversurfer199712416fm4.jpg

I fail to see why transmutation would even be necessary for Surfer to do that. After all, Cyborgs body can't even withstand a punch from a depowered Supes...
http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/8057/returnofsuperman456sh8.jpg

And when Supes gets his powers back, Cyborgs completely screwed...
http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/2733/returnofsuperman462gk2.jpg
If Henshaw can't take that, there's no way he has a chance against Surfer.

Low showings are fun to use aren't they?

Yes he was at full power in the second scan(which I specifically mentioned), but in the first scan Supes was still depowered 😉 .[/QUOTE]

Originally posted by batdude123
Yep.

Plus, thinking Surfer could transmute the fortress is also under the assumption that he would have better control over the tech than Henshaw himself. If 'Borg can control and manipulate a portion of the Source Wall, it's laughable to assume Surfer would be able to do ANYTHING to the technology in the fortress if Henshaw has his consciousness projected into it.

Henshaw: I can control the very tech in this place to do my absolute bidding and despite your power you will not be able to overpower my will on it.

Silver Surfer: ok

Turns entire Fortress into sand

Henshaw: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

This thing has nothing to do with Henshaw's control over the tech. It has to do with whether or not it can not be changed from tech to air.

Originally posted by Newjak
He doesn't have to have better control over tech. He just has to transmutate it. That hardly becomes a battle of wills.

Henshaw: I can control the very tech in this place to do my absolute bidding and despite your power you will not be able to overpower my will on it.

Silver Surfer: ok

Tries to turn entire Fortress into sand, but fails miserably.

Silver Surfer: uh...abracadabra?!

Henshaw: Hahahahaha....now it's my turn

Turns into fortress into a massive living weapon aimed on Surfer and fires!

fixed

Henshaw was being weakened by the k-nite reactor as well, so it's a moot point.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Henshaw was being weakened by the k-nite reactor as well, so it's a moot point.

Originally posted by masterbruce
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Originally posted by Newjak
the problem is no one has yet given a reason why the Fortress can not be changed. If you would like to be the first masterbruce step up to the plate and provide the evidence for it 🙂

my evidence is that Silver Surfer has NEVER transmuted anything close to the power of the Fortress.

Originally posted by masterbruce
my evidence is that Silver Surfer has NEVER transmuted anything close to the power of the Fortress.

Originally posted by darthgoober
You mean the metal jaw that got knocked off of Henshaw was weakened by K-nite 😆 . If that's the case then Henshaw's really screwed since transfering his consciousness won't do any good.

Originally posted by Juntai
His overall durability, yes. A lot of his durability comes from the idea that he has access to Superman's powers through his genetic codes/dna.

Originally posted by darthgoober
But the cybernetic jaw wouldn't have Supes DNA, so the metal itself shouldn't have been weakened.

yes, but the tendon that binds the organic part of the face to the steel is weakened, hence why it got knocked off by Supe's fist

Originally posted by darthgoober
Has the Fortress EVER resisted transmutation?

yes, to my knowledge, it has never been transmited successfully

Originally posted by masterbruce
my evidence is that Silver Surfer has NEVER transmuted anything close to the power of the Fortress.

Matter is matter. the only way to not be transmutated is if there is an actual defense against it. Like you can do it or you have resistance to it.

Both of which I have yet to see the Fortress have 😛

Originally posted by masterbruce
yes, but the tendon that binds the organic part of the face to the steel is weakened, hence why it got knocked off by Supe's fist

Originally posted by masterbruce
yes, to my knowledge, it has never been transmited successfully

Originally posted by Newjak
So that is your evidence. He can not change the tech in the Fortress because apparently it is more advanced than anything he has tried. Seems suspect to me.

Matter is matter. the only way to not be transmutated is if there is an actual defense against it. Like you can do it or you have resistance to it.

Both of which I have yet to see the Fortress have 😛

cyborg has supe's dna and therefore his aura...by controlling the fortress, his aura permeates the fortress and it is therefore also protected against transmutation.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Has anyone ever tried and failed?

no one has ever succeeded...

Originally posted by masterbruce
cyborg has supe's dna and therefore his aura...by controlling the fortress, his aura permeates the fortress and it is therefore also protected against transmutation.

Originally posted by masterbruce
cyborg has supe's dna and therefore his aura...by controlling the fortress, his aura permeates the fortress and it is therefore also protected against transmutation.

Besides can you prove his aura happens to transfer with the tech he is controlling. Can you also prove that Cyborg Supes Bio Aura is as good as Superman's because we know Superman is stronger 🙂