Punisher vs Black Widow.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
her the thing the fight was not over. just becuase soem oen apeares to be losing does not mean they will lose.

Of course but it can still be regarded as a piece of evidence. When we discuss Cap Vs Spiderman we dont know exactly how would have won the fight but by judging who was winning or losing when can try and draw some conclusions.

Originally posted by Battlehammer

the fight never ended and would have come to h2h were frank would get stomp.

HOw do you know that?

Originally posted by Battlehammer

frank doing good in a 10 second fight means nothing when niether combatant was near defeat.

Well Frank had a weapon and BW had taken more knocks and was weaponless. Frank had the advantage. The fight was inconclusive but we cant just ignore he was winning.

If shes faster quicker and better trained she should be able to stomp a lesser fighter who she got by suprise...but thats not what happened.

bump glare

Originally posted by Alfheim
Lets review

1. I have scans of Punisher beating BW after she has got the drop on him and disabled her widow bite. Punisher was winning the fight.

2. Punisher has beaten Bullseye somebody who has beaten BW

3. Im a fanboy......wow.

The Punisher still loses.

Originally posted by godking
Bullseye has also beaten punisher twice

I dont know about that I think at least one of those fights was inconclusive but I find it strange that Punisher cant even deflect Bullseyes projectiles when hes been able to deflect DDs baton everytimes when hes had a gun in his hand. Hell hes even deflected Caps shield. Furthermore Black Widow hasnt beaten Bullseyes ever....as far as I know.

Originally posted by Soljer
The Punisher still loses.

Could you please give an explantion all you've said is that hes going to get stomped without providing any evidence. If you make a statement theres needs to be an explantion im not being unreasonable. If we say Wolverine can beat Hulk, we dont say Wolverine can beat Hulk and leave it at that we say hes agile enough to dodge his blows, take some of his blows and his claws are sharp aneough to do serious damage. 😬

Furthermore Punisher gets Winter Soldier dead to rights..

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wait a minute isnt WS top tier?

Strange ftw.

Originally posted by Alfheim
I dont know about that I think at least one of those fights was inconclusive but I find it strange that Punisher cant even deflect Bullseyes projectiles when hes been able to deflect DDs baton everytimes when hes had a gun in his hand. Hell hes even deflected Caps shield. Furthermore Black Widow hasnt beaten Bullseyes ever....as far as I know.

Could you please give an explantion all you've said is that hes going to get stomped without providing any evidence. If you make a statement theres needs to be an explantion im not being unreasonable. If we say Wolverine can beat Hulk, we dont say Wolverine can beat Hulk and leave it at that we say hes agile enough to dodge his blows, take some of his blows and his claws are sharp aneough to do serious damage. 😬

Furthermore Punisher gets Winter Soldier dead to rights..

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wait a minute isnt WS top tier?

not to mention punisher even states he get stomped by winter solder in h2h combat........sweet evidence

Wel, well , well what do we have here Winter Soldier fighting Black Widow and losing despite the fcat she has Caps shield.

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So lets recap.

1. Punsiher was beating Black Widow despite the fact she had the drop on him. Saying that Punisher would have got stomped is illogical. If a superior fighter cant stop themselves from being disarmed by an inferior fighter when they have the advantage that implies that shes not better at H2H.

2. Hes beaten Bullseyes in H2H whos beaten Black Widow.
3. He had Winter Soldier bang to rights. Winter Solider who beat BW despite the fcat she had Caps shield.

Somethig tells me my evidence is better then "BW would have stopmed her."

Originally posted by Battlehammer
he second tier...........punisher cheap shotted him

Right so that cheap shot incapicatated WS did it? The cheap shot wa so powerful that WS was helpless. The cheap shot didnt do anything to WS's performance.

Originally posted by Battlehammer

and pulled out a gun against an unarmed man..........

Yeah so what he gets a gun in this thread and BW gets her widow bite.

Originally posted by Battlehammer

not to mention punisher even states he get stomped by winter solder in h2h combat........sweet evidence

So what he still had WS dead to rights didnt he?

............yet frank by his own admission said winter solider would kick his ass..........then he cheap shots winter solider and gets his ass tossed........then he pulls a gun bacause he has no prayer in winning.............and this soem how helps franks side becuase?

if any thing it hurts him. Even with a cheap shot he got his ass kicked and had to resort to guns.........

Originally posted by Alfheim
Right so that cheap shot incapicatated WS did it? The cheap shot wa so powerful that WS was helpless. The cheap shot didnt do anything to WS's performance.

Yeah so what he gets a gun in this thread and BW gets her widow bite.

So what he still had WS dead to rights didnt he?

................your logic is flawed.

punisher would have gotten stomped in h2h combat verse winter solider.

He pulled a gun on a man that thought they would fist fight........then chepa shotted him and pulled a gun again..........like a pussy.

and still WS could have killed him just as easily as the other way around.........

Originally posted by Battlehammer
................your logic is flawed.

punisher would have gotten stomped in h2h combat verse winter solider.

I never said he wouldnt he still gets his gun in this thread. Get it?

Originally posted by Battlehammer

He pulled a gun on a man that thought they would fist fight........then chepa shotted him and pulled a gun again..........like a pussy.

Yeah a guy with a cybernetic arm. 🙄

Originally posted by Battlehammer

and still WS could have killed him just as easily as the other way around.........

Well the point is this. If hes fast enough to shot WS hes going to be fast enough to shoot Black Widow, not only that when Punisher fought BW he disarmed her widow bite.

Originally posted by Alfheim
I never said he wouldnt he still gets his gun in this thread. Get it?

Well the point is this. If hes fast enough to shot WS hes going to be fast enough to shoot Black Widow, not only that when Punisher fought BW he disarmed her widow bite.

he fast enough to shoot ws........becuase? he pulled ut a gun like a cheap bastered.......and inch from his face.

if they had met eachother in a street both fully prepared for an all out gun fight, punisher would not be able to hit shit.

not to mention bucky not faster then black widow..........he actaully slower........

your reasoning is so flawed.

hell black widows showing against WS help her in this debate. Bucky actaully tried verse her and she did not even use guns like she normally does.

punisher with a cheap shot still got tossed like a joke.

not seeing how black widow fight with WS hurts her at all in this thread.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
yoru rediculous........

he fast enough to shoot ws........becuase? he pulled ut a gun like a cheap bastered.......and inch from his face.

So what? Frank gets his gun in this thread!

Originally posted by Battlehammer

if they had met eachother in a street both fully prepared for an all out gun fight, punisher would not be able to hit shit.

So let me get this straight you just got punched in the face by a guy who shots people for a living you have the advantage in H2H and have a cybeneric armn...and theres noooo way this guy is going to pull a gun on you. WS wasnt fast enough.

Originally posted by Battlehammer

not to mention bucky not faster then black widow..........he actaully slower........

What despite the fcat that he beat her in H2H combat.

Originally posted by Battlehammer

your reasoning is so flawed.

hell black widows showing against WS help her in this debate. Bucky actaully tried verse her and she did not even use guns like she normally does.

You gonna forget she had Caps shield and she had her widow bite and it didnt work.

Originally posted by Battlehammer

punisher with a cheap shot still got tossed like a joke.

Er did you realise that WS tossed him but he still landed on his feet.

Originally posted by Battlehammer

not seeing how black widow fight with WS hurts her at all in this thread.

Despite the fcat she was using Caps shield as defence. 😬

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The Punisher straight up says that 'in a fight, [winter soldier]'d kill me,' and then uses a gun on an unarmed man, and STILL would have died.

Yeah 'dead to rights.' Okay.

ermhappy

Originally posted by Alfheim
I dont know about that I think at least one of those fights was inconclusive but I find it strange that Punisher cant even deflect Bullseyes projectiles when hes been able to deflect DDs baton everytimes when hes had a gun in his hand. Hell hes even deflected Caps shield. Furthermore Black Widow hasnt beaten Bullseyes ever....as far as I know.

Could you please give an explantion all you've said is that hes going to get stomped without providing any evidence. If you make a statement theres needs to be an explantion im not being unreasonable. If we say Wolverine can beat Hulk, we dont say Wolverine can beat Hulk and leave it at that we say hes agile enough to dodge his blows, take some of his blows and his claws are sharp aneough to do serious damage. 😬

Furthermore Punisher gets Winter Soldier dead to rights..

http://img14.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=99666_buckyvcastle3_122_929lo.jpg
http://img45.imagevenue.com/view.php?image=99673_buckyvcastle4_122_986lo.jpg

wait a minute isnt WS top tier?

And he lost to Bullseye again in Punisher vs Bullseye though in that fight he did win the H2H part in that fight.

I ade a choice, finally.
I run with the Punisher.

Natalia is better fighter, she's metahuman.
But Frank is like the Batman of Marvel, he's tricky. And he's not afraid to kill. In fact, he always go for the kill. He's a hunter.

Even if she's meta, a bullet in the head would kill Natalia. It's happening that Frank is a ****ing good shooter.

Originally posted by Soljer
😆

The Punisher straight up says that 'in a fight, [winter soldier]'d kill me,' and then uses a gun on an unarmed man, and STILL would have died.

Yeah 'dead to rights.' Okay.

Where does it state that Punisher doesnt get a gun in this thread? Why would he have still died? Oh I dunno he would have still died because WS would have broken his neck...oh I dunno lets forget the fcat that WS soldier decided to let go. I guess WS let go because hes a fluffy bunny not because he might have actually died or got hurt really bad before he could do anything.

Is this your same bull**** logic that used to say that BW would have stomped Punisher despite the fcat that she couldnt even stomp him when she got him by suprise.

Originally posted by JasonK4

ermhappy

and your being silly as well. Where does it state in this thread that he doesnt have his gun.

Originally posted by godking
Punsiher was beaten by a young Bullseye in Bullseyes greatest hits .

And he lost to Bullseye again in Punisher vs Bullseye though in that fight he did win the H2H part in that fight.

Has BW ever beaten Bullseye..nope.

Widow 8/10