people tend to forget how resourceful frank is. any guy who can turn the tide on wolverine after wolverine got the drop on him CANNOT be underestimated.
Frank f--ks her up. also why the hell is everyone making "Big Wuss" sound like she's batman or lady shiva? she's average at best. and she got her ass handed to her by DD ( 😆 ) time and time again. and wile DD beats Punisher, he seems to have a hard time doing it.
AND need i mention the time Frank dislocated both his arms and pwned him. he was losing but used his size advantage over DD to knock him off the building and dislocated both his shoulders. that counts as a win since DD was incapacitated. and don't forget that frank has ko'd DD with a punch on two occassions. once after setting off a sonar blast and then punching him in the face. the other time was a bit later where he just punched him again and KO'd him. and there is another thing: DD has NEVER ko'd frank. they also had another fight where DD got the drop on him and frnak incapacitated him with a surprise shot.
"the difference between our skill is obvious. but what really matters is not how much you can dish out but how much you can take!"
and lets not forget that frank knows how to fight dirty. Maybe (and that's a maybe) "Big Wuss" is more skilled but she can't fight dirty. frank is the better slugger.
and we have that against a stupid redhead whose 55kgs at best and has been playing flunkie to DD. and also got pwned by the man frank has beaten. sure.
oh and there was an issue where frank had to fight in a ring on several occasions back-to-back agains several opponents. everything was legal and they fought on planks over a ditch with spikes in it. frank beat everyone cuz of his resourceful nature and his dirty fighting. there is no way BW can hang with frank in an all-out brawl cuz she's been to busy brown nosing DD's selfrightous ass.
Frank wins. 8/10.
~Sado
Originally posted by Sado22
]and lets not forget that frank knows how to fight dirty. Maybe (and that's a maybe) "Big Wuss" is more skilled but she can't fight dirty. frank is the better slugger.
~Sado
Your not a big Black widow reader are you? She fights dirty real dirty.
Not to mention Logan trained her and taught her to fight dirty and use anyway to gain an advantage.
she pretented to be hurt, cried and then when wolverine went to see if she was ok she punched him in the balls.
that extremely dirty.
so stop saying this and that about a character you clearly don't read.
Originally posted by BattlehammerI would love to clean her off droolio
She can't fight dirty?Your not a big Black widow reader are you? She fights dirty real dirty.
Not to mention Logan trained her and taught her to fight dirty and use anyway to gain an advantage.
she pretented to be hurt, cired and then when wolverine went to see if she was ok she punched him in the balls.
that extremely dirty.
so stop saying this and that about a character you clearly don't read.
Originally posted by Sado22
DD has NEVER ko'd frank. they also had another fight where DD got the drop on
I would not use DD has a good example of the reason why Frank wins. DD has kicked the shit out of Punisher repeatedly. In won arc DD beat Punisher like 4 times and badly if not mistaken.
Also Yes DD has KOed Frank
I would not use DD has a good example of the reason why Frank wins. DD has kicked the shit out of Punisher repeatedly. In won arc DD beat Punisher like 4 times and badly if not mistaken. Also Yes DD has KOed Frank
also i never said frank can beat DD. i said he'll lose in an outright fight. and he says so himself. what i am saying, however, is that there is more to fighting than punchign and kicking. DD is honorable but frank has no problem fighting dirty. THAT is the difference between fighting and brawling. frank's a brawler. dd isn't. the same way BW isn't.
so with that, it won't be a stretch to say the frank would throw dust in BW's eyes and smack her down with a killer right. and don't forget that frank Ko'd DD with a right. twice. so sure as hell can do the same to some redhead flunkie with a tightass.
oh and should be mentioned that the one time frank did beat DD it wasn't a dirty tactic as it was a presence of mind. since DD was beating the crap out of him he just tackled him off the balcony and on to the ground dislocating his shoulders. pretty fair and don't forget that DD was pretty pissedoff with him at the time so he was pretty much in the mood for hurting him.
Frank wins. and screws BW afterwords.
~Sado
Originally posted by Sado22
with a weapon, yes. not h2h.
if i count that then frank ko'd DD with the butt of a rifle once🙂
Yes, but you said he never KO Frank which is false. You never said using no weapons. Also DD could have KO Frank with his fists before, but stopped to Give Frank a chance to give up.
Originally posted by Sado22
also i never said frank can beat DD. i said he'll lose in an outright fight. and he says so himself. what i am saying, however, is that there is more to fighting than punchign and kicking.
Originally posted by Sado22
DD is honorable but frank has no problem fighting dirty. THAT is the difference between fighting and brawling. frank's a brawler. dd isn't. the same way BW isn't.
Also did You miss the part were I stated that Black Widow is a dirty fighter and was trained for a time by Logan who taught her to fight dirty.
Like I said before you clearly do not have great knowledge of Black Widow
Originally posted by Sado22
so with that, it won't be a stretch to say the frank would throw dust in BW's eyes and smack her down with a killer right.
Did you miss the part were I said Logan taught her to fight and fight dirty to use any method to win.
She pretended to cry so Logan would drop his guard and then punched him in the nuts.
That’s pretty much as dirty as it gets.
She been fighting dirty since before Punisher was born.
Originally posted by Sado22
and don't forget that frank Ko'd DD with a right. twice. so sure as hell can do the same to some redhead flunkie with a tightass.
Also you are referring to one of the greatest spies to ever walk marvel earth a common flunky?
Also your assuming that she will be hit, and just because Punisher KO Daredevil in no ways means he will KO Black Widow.
Originally posted by Sado22
oh and should be mentioned that the one time frank did beat DD it wasn't a dirty tactic as it was a presence of mind. since DD was beating the crap out of him he just tackled him off the balcony and on to the ground dislocating his shoulders. pretty fair and don't forget that DD was pretty pissedoff with him at the time so he was pretty much in the mood for hurting him
Again with the crap issue of Punisher written by ennis. What a surprise that the most PIS bullshit issue si the one time Punisher defeats DD lol.
Also that not dirty fighting it desperate fighting and luck a lot of it.
Originally posted by Sado22
Frank wins. and screws BW afterwords.~Sado
Funny how you can have such a character you clearly have no read much on. What I find even more amassing is that you assume Black Widow is not a dirty fighter when she is and one of the dirtiest. What even funnier about it is the fact she been fighting dirty since before Punisher was event born, and had killed countless men before he had spoken his first words.
Originally posted by tkitna
Daredevil should never, ever have a hard time with Frank. Regardless, i'll give Widow 8/10.
Not true. Frank has beaten him more than once, and some of the times DD has won is due to cirumstances, even if DD wins it should be a tough fight.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
I would not use DD has a good example of the reason why Frank wins. DD has kicked the shit out of Punisher repeatedly. In won arc DD beat Punisher like 4 times and badly if not mistaken.Also Yes DD has KOed Frank
Yeah and Frank has beaten DD more than once. 😐. The arc you are talking about ends with a near stalemate in which DD ended up with a dislocated arm and a bust up face.
Oh and the reason why Frank got KOed is because he wasnt even paying attention to DD he was trying to save sombodies life.
Originally posted by BattlehammerAgain with the crap issue of Punisher written by ennis. What a surprise that the most PIS bullshit issue si the one time Punisher defeats DD lol.
*sigh* Frank has beaten DD before prior to Einnis anyway, so the fact that Frank beat DD in Einnis dont mean a damn thing. Oh and Frank is beating up BW despite the fact she got the drop on him. *sigh*
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Yeah and Frank has beaten DD more than once. 😐. The arc you are talking about ends with a near stalemate in which DD ended up with a dislocated arm and a bust up face.
QUOTE=10252182]Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Oh and the reason why Frank got KOed is because he wasnt even paying attention to DD he was trying to save sombodies life. [/QUOTE]
Point? He said DD never KOed Punisher and I posted a scan of him doing so.
Also the guy Punisher was running to was the man Punisher shot, because he wanted DD to badly.
The entire fight he was being stomped too.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
*sigh* Frank has beaten DD before prior to Einnis anyway, so the fact that Frank beat DD in Einnis dont mean a damn thing.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Oh and Frank is beating up BW despite the fact she got the drop on him. *sigh*
Originally posted by Battlehammer
Key word near. And through the arc the to fought and Punisher always was on the losing end.
Lol so if he can nearly beat DD, whats he going to do to BW? 😬
Originally posted by Battlehammer
Point? He said DD never KOed Punisher and I posted a scan of him doing so.Also the guy Punisher was running to was the man Punisher shot, because he wanted DD to badly.
LOL how many times has Punisher shot people by accident? Er thats probably the only time. 👆
Originally posted by Battlehammer
The entire fight he was being stomped too.
Not entirely true but DD was doing better.
Originally posted by BattlehammerI never minded that part for the simple reasons it could happen. Though it was complete utter luck that it worked out for Punisher.
Im not refering Einnis , it wasnt luck at all. In their second encounter Punisher could have shot him again.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
Got the drop on him? Punisher fired at her first. She shot back. Punisher looked down to shoot her and the man she was protecting. She was not there. Then before Punisher was able to fire Widow kicked his gun. They skirmished neither landing a hit. So please tell me how you came to the conclusion that Punisher was winning?
Here...thats is getting the drop on somebody.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Lol so if he can nearly beat DD, whats he going to do to BW? 😬
ABC logic my friend does not work.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
LOL how many times has Punisher shot people by accident? Er thats probably the only time. 👆
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Not entirely true but DD was doing better.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Im not refering Einnis , it wasnt luck at all. In their second encounter Punisher could have shot him again.
I know what your referring to the time Punisher shot DD and then the fight after it.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone[/B][/QUOTE]
Here...thats is getting the drop on somebody.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
He also been stomped al over the place by DD so not the best reason to give for Punisher being able to take BW.ABC logic my friend does not work.
Our point? He was getting stomp, got frustrated. Attempted to shot DD and DD dodged it which it the people well behind him.
Actaully it is true. Punisher landed one hit, just one. He got stomp on by DD, who also made it look like childs play dodging Punishers shots.
That’s what we were discussing and it was luck.
I know what your referring to the time Punisher shot DD and then the fight after it.
*shrug* brilliant. 👆
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Yea and what do you call trying to shoot some one unaware ?
*shrug* brilliant. 👆 [/B][/QUOTE]
You amuse me.
You say punisher won the fight even though he never landed a hit.
You also said he was ambushed. Funny thing is he was the first one to attack by fireing at BW.
Also when Black Widow brought the fight to him, you act as if Punisher was caught so unaware, like BW jsut attacked him out of no were when in reality he was the first to strike.
Also she hit the gun not him, which gave him ample time to square off. Also she was toying with him.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Look I cant be bothered just go round and round in circles. Waste of time.
Lol
I still can't believe that you think that shows punsher winning I might have to make a thread asking others what they think happen in thoses scanns, becauses what you said and what happen in the scanns are not even close.
battlehammer.....please get over the fact that we don't have a mancrush on wolverine like you and don't think he can heal the sick, turn water to wine, can walk on the water and sacrificed his healing factor for the sins of humanity. grow up. already.
es, but you said he never KO Frank which is false. You never said using no weapons. Also DD could have KO Frank with his fists before, but stopped to Give Frank a chance to give up.
One does not have to be a brawler to fight dirty. There are many styles which tell you to aim for vital area’s and uses any means to win such as Krav Maga.
Also did You miss the part were I stated that Black Widow is a dirty fighter and was trained for a time by Logan who taught her to fight dirty. Like I said before you clearly do not have great knowledge of Black Widow
She been fighting dirty since before Punisher was born.
Really which issue were theses again?
Also you are referring to one of the greatest spies to ever walk marvel earth a common flunky?
Also your assuming that she will be hit, and just because Punisher KO Daredevil in no ways means he will KO Black Widow.
Again with the crap issue of Punisher written by ennis. What a surprise that the most PIS bullshit issue si the one time Punisher defeats DD lol. Also that not dirty fighting it desperate fighting and luck a lot of it.
Funny how you can have such a character you clearly have no read much on. What I find even more amassing is that you assume Black Widow is not a dirty fighter when she is and one of the dirtiest. What even funnier about it is the fact she been fighting dirty since before Punisher was event born, and had killed countless men before he had spoken his first words
~Sado
