Originally posted by Soljer
Cause he isn't biased, nor does he like to stroke the Punisher.
Whats wrong with you? You havnet even provided any proof that BW beats the Punisher. Again are you going to provide some proof instead of just talking? What proof have you given.
1. Shes going to stomp Frank in H2H. What so you mean to tell me that she far superior to him? Well ok if is shes so superior why cant she beat an inferior opponent shes got the drop on? What so she has the advanatge and she ended up getting a beating but despite this is going to stomp in H2H. Cant you see how illogical that is, it could be argued she could still win because the fight was inconclusive but a stomp is going overboard.
Lets have a look at another post. This is complete and utter rubbish.
Originally posted by Soljer
😆The Punisher straight up says that 'in a fight, [winter soldier]'d kill me,'
This is rubbish because just because somebody makes a statement doesnt mean its accurate. If Cap says Cable can kill him in combat then ends up beating him obvoulsy we can assume that what actually happened is more accurate than what was said. Punisher said that WS would kill him but in the end WS ended up backing down.
Originally posted by Soljer
and then uses a gun on an unarmed man,
Have you compeletly lost your mind. Your making out WS to be a civilian hes man with a superhuman strength cyubernetic arm. Furthermore thats even irrelevant Frank has guns in this thread and if hes fast enough to pull his gun on WS he should be able to pull it on BW.
Originally posted by Soljer
and STILL would have died.
How the hell do you know that? Wait, wait, wait, wait so WS was about to kill him but decides to back down. What so you don think the reason why he let go was beacuse there was a good chance he could have got his brains splattered. Wow, im not biased you are stop wasting my time and address my posts.
Originally posted by AlfheimDont be obtuse ANY of the experienced street level Meta's would hand Punisher his ass in H2H Guys like winter soldier or Captain America or Wolverine tear him a new ass in H2H . At best Frank gets a few shots in like the cheap shot against WS.
Whats wrong with you? You havnet even provided any proof that BW beats the Punisher. Again are you going to provide some proof instead of just talking? What proof have you given.1. Shes going to stomp Frank in H2H. What so you mean to tell me that she far superior to him? Well ok if is shes so superior why cant she beat an inferior opponent shes got the drop on? What so she has the advanatge and she ended up getting a beating but despite this is going to stomp in H2H. Cant you see how illogical that is, it could be argued she could still win because the fight was inconclusive but a stomp is going overboard.
Lets have a look at another post. This is complete and utter rubbish.
This is rubbish because just because somebody makes a statement doesnt mean its accurate. If Cap says Cable can kill him in combat then ends up beating him obvoulsy we can assume that what actually happened is more accurate than what was said. Punisher said that WS would kill him but in the end WS ended up backing down.
Have you compeletly lost your mind. Your making out WS to be a civilian hes man with a superhuman strength cyubernetic arm. Furthermore thats even irrelevant Frank has guns in this thread and if hes fast enough to pull his gun on WS he should be able to pull it on BW.
How the hell do you know that? Wait, wait, wait, wait so WS was about to kill him but decides to back down. What so you don think the reason why he let go was beacuse there was a good chance he could have got his brains splattered. Wow, im not biased you are stop wasting my time and address my posts.
Which is why Frank will never get into a H2H fight against these guys if he can avoid it.
Originally posted by godking
Dont be obtuse ANY of the experienced street level Meta's would hand Punisher his ass in H2H Guys like winter soldier or Captain America or Wolverine tear him a new ass in H2H . At best Frank gets a few shots in like the cheap shot against WS.Which is why Frank will never get into a H2H fight against these guys if he can avoid it.
What is this thread about? Its about BW its not about Cap, Wolverine its about BW and BW isnt as good as Cap or Wolverine. Please explain why BW beats Frank in H2H. Dont make a statements explain why BW would stomp Frank in H2H.
Hey Frank has beaten DD before and beaten the crap out of him in their last encounter. DD has actually only stomped DD in H2H twice, do you realise that?
Frank has:
Beaten DD in combat before
Could have beaten DD in their second encounter but turned his back on him
Gone H2H with DD and eventhough DD had the upperhand put up a good fight
Almost beat him in their last fight encounter. Beat DD up abdly and dislocated his arm.
Furthermore in one fight with Wolverine Frank had a good showing depite the fcat his leg was injured. So to be fair it really dependson whose writing Frank wether he will get his as handed to him.
.....this is lame. for one whoever phantom din't specify squat. so for all we know Black widow just came for confession and frank drops by with an M60. on the flipside, Black widow drops in while frank is screwing a nun.
so for f--k's sake specify if its a h2h, a gunfight, a knife fight or a blind date.
~Sado
i have no problem with A>B>C logic.
if bullseye beat widow and frank beat bullseye it makes a whole lot of sense who the better fighter is. ali beat foreman, foreman beat frazier. who is the greatest?
ali is.
and then there is this:
the hulk stomped wolverine. thor can go toe-to-toe with hulk. what is thor going to do to wolveirne?
he's gonna stomp him.
terry bogard beat geese howard. kyo kusanagi beat terry bogard. what is kyo going to do to geese howard?
he's gonna roast him.
i could do this all day.
Frank wins. better with guns, been doing it for a lot longer and has a hellova an imagination when it comes to maiming people.
~Sado
Originally posted by Sado22
.....this is lame. for one whoever phantom din't specify squat. so for all we know Black widow just came for confession and frank drops by with an M60. on the flipside, Black widow drops in while frank is screwing a nun.so for f--k's sake specify if its a h2h, a gunfight, a knife fight or a blind date.
~Sado
Bro why you flipping out for? If I havent specified it means that opponents have standard equipment. 😬
Standard Equipment
Each side starts out with the equipment that they normally and have been shown to consistently carry on them. For example, Daredevil would have his billy-club, but Reed Richards would not have the Ultimate Nullifier.
In a scenario fight, the contestants in whose city/reality the fight takes place are allowed access to any material resources they usually have there or of any team they're active members of, as long as they can reasonably get to them. For example, in a scenario set in the DCU, Green Lantern would have access to equipment in the JLA Watchtower, but not the Titans headquarters.
Originally posted by horrorwolfNo way in hell. Daredevil, whose almost always on the better side of his fights against Punisher would just about take 8/10 on Punisher. Black Widow's good, but she's not Daredevil good. Frankly, I only know Black Widow from later 90's-present in Avengers, Daredevil and random appearances and such. Can't say that I've read her when she used to be a regular in Daredevil. But from what I have seen, opponents generally have an easier time with her then with Punisher. Daredevil and Bullseye included.
Widow 8/10
A lot of you guys make it sound like she'd easily wreck him easily H2H. 1) Daredevil doesn't even have it easy with Punisher when it comes down to H2H; 2) getting Punisher to pure H2H isn't all that easy either.
5/10 split. Gonna call a split til I find some Black Widow respect thread or scrounge through some older comics.