No absolutes?

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Not correct. Faith is the substance of things hoped for the [B]evidence of things not seen (Hebrews 11:1).

Hebrews 11:1 (New King James Version)
1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

Hebrews 11:1 (Amplified Bible)
1NOW FAITH is the assurance (the confirmation, (the title deed) of the things [we] hope for, being the proof of things [we] do not see and the conviction of their reality [faith perceiving as real fact what is not revealed to the senses].

From a believer's perspective faith is the evidence (i.e. proof) of what he/she cannot perceive through the senses.

Hence, Belief in God is based on faith; faith is the evidence/proof; therefore, there is proof of God (again, based on faith which is the evidence)

Syllogism reloaded.

😄 [/B]

You sir, are WRONG. If you believe in something because you have proof, then your belief isn't based on faith (which is to a word, belief in something that lacks proof), it's based on proof.

Quote scripture all you like, but faith does not equal proof; quite the opposite, as fact.

Edit: By your disgustingly skewed definition of the word "faith", any idiotic line of thought could therefore have evidence.

"I have faith that the Earth is cube shaped; therefore I have evidence (my faith), so now it's true." See how rediculously dumb your definition of the word "faith" is?

Faith is believing in something without tangible proof.

Originally posted by Storm
Faith is believing in something without tangible proof.

This is what Microsoft Word says.

Faith

1. Belief in, devotion to, or trust in somebody or something, especially without logical proof.

2. A system of religious belief, or the group of people who adhere to it.

3. Belief in and devotion to God.

4. A strongly held set of beliefs or principles.

5. Allegiance or loyalty to somebody or something.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
especially without logical proof.

Great choice of words! 👆

Originally posted by Robtard
You sir, are WRONG. If you believe in something because you have proof, then your belief isn't based on faith (which is to a word, belief in something that lacks proof), it's based on proof.

Quote scripture all you like, but [b]faith does not equal proof; quite the opposite, as fact.

Edit: By your disgustingly skewed definition of the word "faith", any idiotic line of thought could therefore have evidence.

"I have faith that the Earth is cube shaped; therefore I have evidence (my faith), so now it's true." See how rediculously dumb your definition of the word "faith" is? [/B]

My faith is based on the authoritative Word of God (which was given by inspiration of God) not some capricious thought (there is a huge difference). Morevoer, I cannot say that I have faith that earth is triangle-shaped based on the Word of God because the Bible does not claim this. But if I say that Jesus Christ is Lord, my statement is well-founded and legitimate to base my faith on (which is the evidence until I see Jesus with my own eyes crowned King of Kings and Lord of Lords).

Originally posted by Storm
Faith is believing in something without tangible proof.

True.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
My faith is based on the authoritative Word of God (which was given by inspiration of God) not some capricious thought (there is a huge difference). Morevoer, I cannot say that I have faith that earth is triangle-shaped based on the Word of God because the Bible does not claim this. But if I say that Jesus Christ is Lord, my statement is well-founded and legitimate to base my faith on (which is the evidence until I see Jesus with my own eyes crowned King of Kings and Lord of Lords).

But the bible does say that the Earth has 4 corners.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
My faith is based on the authoritative Word of God (which was given by inspiration of God) not some capricious thought (there is a huge difference). Morevoer, I cannot say that I have faith that earth is triangle-shaped based on the Word of God because the Bible does not claim this. But if I say that Jesus Christ is Lord, my statement is well-founded and legitimate to base my faith on (which is the evidence until I see Jesus with my own eyes crowned King of Kings and Lord of Lords).

Listen, I am not doubting your faith, as that would be foolish, I am no judge of what you have faith in or not. But your definition of faith, as being "evidence" in of itself is absurd. Faith is faith, simply that; no need to add or take away from what it is.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
My faith is based on the authoritative Word of God (which was given by inspiration of God) not some capricious thought (there is a huge difference).

JesusIsAlive wrote on May 6th, 2007 10:00 PM:

A number of people have imparted the gospel of Jesus Christ to me.

I asked you " What makes you think they are right?". I'm still waiting for that answer.

Originally posted by lord xyz
I asked you " What makes you think they are right?". I'm still waiting for that answer.

That's because mommy and daddy are always right. 😂

Originally posted by lord xyz
I asked you " What makes you think they are right?". I'm still waiting for that answer.

I took the Pepsi challenge and discovered the Truth for myself (Truth is a Person i.e. Jesus Christ).

Besides, what makes you think that they are wrong?

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
I took the Pepsi challenge and discovered the Truth for myself (Truth is a Person i.e. Jesus Christ).

😆

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive

1. I believe that the Bible is the Word of the living God in Heaven. I believe that the God of the Bible is absolute.

2. The Bible is the Word of God. Paraphrased translations do a tremendous disservice to the Word of God by adulterating and weakening the text. The best translations are word-for-word (i.e. the King James or New King James translations.

3. YHWH and Allah are not one and the same I have addressed this issue at length in a number of posts. Here is some surahs from the Qu’ran that contradict what the Bible says proving that the God of the Bible and the god of the Qu’ran cannot be one and the same.

[B]The god of the Qu’ran (Allah) denies having a son.
Surah 4:171 O People of the Scripture! Do not exaggerate in your religion nor utter aught concerning Allah save the truth. The Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, was only a messenger of Allah, and His word which He conveyed unto Mary, and a spirit from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers, and say not "Three" - Cease! (it is) better for you! - Allah is only One God. Far is it removed from His Transcendent Majesty that He should have a son. His is all that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth. And Allah is sufficient as Defender.

Surah 6:101 The Originator of the heavens and the earth! How can He have a child, when there is for Him no consort, when He created all things and is Aware of all things ?

Surah 18:4,5 And to warn those who say: Allah hath chosen a son, (A thing) whereof they have no knowledge, nor (had) their fathers, Dreadful is the word that cometh out of their mouths. They speak naught but a lie.

Surah 23:91 Allah hath not chosen any son, nor is there any god along with Him; else would each god have assuredly championed that which he created, and some of them would assuredly have overcome others. Glorified be Allah above all that they allege.

The god of the Qu’ran (Allah) denies that Jesus was crucified.
Surah 4:157 And because of their saying: We slew the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, Allah's messenger - they slew him not nor crucified him, but it appeared so unto them; and lo! those who disagree concerning it are in doubt thereof; they have no knowledge thereof save pursuit of a conjecture; they slew him not for certain. [/B]

The Bible and the Koran are just two different views of the same god.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
I took the Pepsi challenge and discovered the Truth for myself (Truth is a Person i.e. Jesus Christ).

Besides, what makes you think that they are wrong?

Also, new evidence shows that the whole Bible story is actually astrology.

I've read that too. Astrology.

Jesus is the Sun.

On the night of Dec. 24th, three stars known as the three kings point to Sirius, the East star, which then point to where the sun will rise on Dec. 25th. the day the sun raises north by one dgree since the solstice (3 days ago). However, it isn't until the Spring equinox when the days are longer than the nights.

This explains Christmas and Easter.

"The SUN of Righteousness" As mentioned in the OT. Malachi 4:2

You might find it interesting that in the Book of Genesis, it says God created "Light" on the first day. But the Sun and the stars had not been created yet. They are given special mention in a passage which follows later. In Chapter 1, Verse 14, God is said to have made the sun and moon and stars "for signs" on the fourth day of Creation. For thousands of years, astrologers have been doing just that - looking "for signs" in the heavens as a way of understanding what is happening, or will happen, on Earth....ie Astrology.

http://www.astrologyzine.com/astrology-bible.shtml

Oh, found another good one.

http://www.usbible.com/Astrology/bible_astrology.htm

Originally posted by lord xyz
Jesus is the Sun.

On the night of Dec. 24th, three stars known as the three kings point to Sirius, the East star, which then point to where the sun will rise on Dec. 25th. the day the sun raises north by one dgree since the solstice (3 days ago). However, it isn't until the Spring equinox when the days are longer than the nights.

This explains Christmas and Easter.

Except that the dates used for Christmas and Easter have nothing at all to do with Jesus . . .

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
The Bible and the Koran are just two different views of the same god.

That is not possible.