Originally posted by SpearofDestiny
Christianity has a tiny little thing called "The Golden Rule". The sad thing is that most Christians do not follow it. Either that, or most Christians are mascoshit who think they deserve to suffer, and thus, so do others.
A person in Hell will always want other people to suffer as well. Remember the old saying, misery loves company?
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Human nature. People start with a belief then point out what is in support and ignore what goes against.
That is why not every Christian will agree on the same thing. It took me time to learn that, and to not stereotype Christians as ignorant conservative bigots, because many Christians are not like that.
As with all people of any background.
Originally posted by SpearofDestinyDepending on the denomination of course. Each one has a pillar of scriptures they stand on. They base their teachings on those select verses, while others base theirs on other verses. For instance, the Baptists feel strongly about Baptism to enter Heaven, The Catholics believe in the ritual end of it. The Calvinists believe in predestination and keeping all the 10 commandments. The Seventh Day Adventists believe in keeping the old Jewish laws, including the Sabbath. Many Apostolic churches emphasis speaking in tongues. Many believe in infant baptism, others reject it. All these selected verses that are capsulized on is their way of knowing or believing you are saved.
Ofcourse.I am just wondoring why certain parts of the Bible are ignored, why other parts of emphasized.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
There are a lot of Christian who hate. Their religion does not give them the tools needed to deal with such powerful emotions, so they are controlled by hate.
Yes, there are a lot of Christians who hate. But I disagree about the religion. It does offer tools required to deal with powerful emotions. It might not be as easy to tap into those tools as it is to utilize some other religions (i.e. Buddhism), which might explain why Buddhism seems to have a higher success rate when it comes to control over emotion or desire. But there are many Christians who are able to do it, and who are as unlikely to be controlled by anger, lust or any other challenge as any Buddhist.
Originally posted by Quark_666
Yes, there are a lot of Christians who hate. But I disagree about the religion. It does offer tools required to deal with powerful emotions. It might not be as easy to tap into those tools as it is to utilize some other religions (i.e. Buddhism), which might explain why Buddhism seems to have a higher success rate when it comes to control over emotion or desire. But there are many Christians who are able to do it, and who are as unlikely to be controlled by anger, lust or any other challenge as any Buddhist.
Please tell me what are these tools you speak of?
Originally posted by chickenlover98
to obey the ible is rediculus. remember how in the christian religion it was a sin to eat meet on sunday?
Friday, actually. Originally all year, then at some point it was shortened to just Lenten Fridays. And in Catholicism it isn't technically a sin...it was a historical precedent set in the Middle Ages when the Church was quite a formidable power. The edict was intended to help the fishing industry in Europe. It had nothing to do with the Bible, unless you're referring to Old Testament passages that influences Semetic eating practices.
The idea of it being a sin came along later, largely due to public misinformation concerning the initial suggestion, which was taken much more seriously than it would be today, because the Church held far more social and political power. The practice morphed into a Lenten tradition at some point and took on the meaning of sacrificing something for the sake of the religion, just as people are encouraged to give up something else for the entirety of Lent.
Originally posted by SpearofDestiny
Ofcourse.I am just wondoring why certain parts of the Bible are ignored, why other parts of emphasized.
Personally, I dislike Christians who miss the mark on both sides. On the one hand, you've got people telling everyone to repent or burn; on the other hand, you've got people proclaiming that "God is love" and glossing over parts of the Bible.
Both are inaccurate. God's justice and righteousness is tempered by His mercy and kindness, and God's mercy and kindness are fortified by His justice and righteousness. The two require each other, like a yin-yang--without mercy, God is a tyrant, and without justice, God is weak.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Please tell me what are these tools you speak of?
I mean whatever helps people get a hold of their life. Words of Christ maybe. But my point is there is no such thing as a failsafe method for controlling yourself or improving your life or obtaining "correct" morals. There can't be. The inconsistencies of the mind are too...inconsistent. It's pointless to say any religion doesn't work, because it obviously works for some people or it wouldn't be a religion, just a philosophy (or maybe not even that). Likewise, it's pointless to say any religion works for everybody, or that particular religion would be taking over the world.
Originally posted by Quark_666
I mean whatever helps people get a hold of their life. Words of Christ maybe. But my point is there is no such thing as a failsafe method for controlling yourself or improving your life or obtaining "correct" morals. There can't be. The inconsistencies of the mind are too...inconsistent. It's pointless to say any religion doesn't work, because it obviously works for some people or it wouldn't be a religion, just a philosophy (or maybe not even that). Likewise, it's pointless to say any religion works for everybody, or that particular religion would be taking over the world.
just goes to show that "relegion" isnt sumthing that exists outside human being's minds. it is a prodct of it and is subjective to a great extent. some people take it to be one thing, others take it to be another. as a result it manifests in different behaviours. that is why it is better at times to look at actions. ofcourse, one shudnt delude themselves into beleiving that scriptures taken at face value are not extremely harmful.
Originally posted by SpearofDestiny
Christianity has a tiny little thing called "The Golden Rule". The sad thing is that most Christians do not follow it. Either that, or most Christians are mascoshit who think they deserve to suffer, and thus, so do others.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
just goes to show that "relegion" isnt sumthing that exists outside human being's minds. it is a prodct of it and is subjective to a great extent. some people take it to be one thing, others take it to be another. as a result it manifests in different behaviours. that is why it is better at times to look at actions.
Except for my religion of course! 😉
Actually, I think there is more to it then that. But for all the intents and purposes of this discussion, I agree with you.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
ofcourse, one shudnt delude themselves into beleiving that scriptures taken at face value are not extremely harmful.
Finish your thought. I don't see why it is extremely harmful to take scriptures at face value, but I'm interested in your reasoning. I can see there is potential for extremely negative effects when scriptures are interpreted literally, but I don't see why it is always extremely harmful. Do you mean to say people should be cautious when taking meaning from scripture?
Originally posted by Storm
Christianity doesn' t have a monopoly on the Golden Rule. The Golden Rule is a fundamental moral principle which has appeared in various religions and philosophies all over the world. It can be found in ancient Greece, Buddhism, Hinduism, Confucianism, Islam, Jainism, Taoism, ... It' s just that one of the most famous formulations comes from Christianity.
Exactly. No religion has a monopoly on any principle. They all teach the same basics. You just have to look a little harder in some cases.