Originally posted by quanchi112
Yat,Black Adam,Superboy,Superman need I go on.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlIm doing this to prove a point. Since his first resurrection he has only lost to Tyrant and was losing to Odin. Thats very impressive and these are two characters that could beat Prime imo. So again I dont see anything Prime has done that makes me feel he coul dtake on the very durable three times as intelligent Thanos.
UM, he's shown knocking superman out in the last part of the sinestro corps war. He also one shotted superman with heat vision. As for BA, He was knocked into another reality. Superboy was killed. One shotted or not. How the hell has THanos one shotted? THe thing? LMAO. Hulk? WOW. Slow ass Thor?
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
UM, he's shown knocking superman out in the last part of the sinestro corps war. He also one shotted superman with heat vision. As for BA, He was knocked into another reality. Superboy was killed. One shotted or not. How the hell has THanos one shotted? THe thing? LMAO. Hulk? WOW. Slow ass Thor?
Nightwing survived a blitz for SBP ^_^, he must have inheritted some sort of bat-jobb aura ^_^
]and every person who hits Superman results in "no one has ever hit me that hard"talk is cheap especially since their greatest weapon was themselves as they did a lot more on Prime than Sodam
and inexperience doesn't have to be mentioned when it's obvious
... Uh, no. Prime took a blast from 3 of the Guardians as well as he took blasts from Ion alone. And if anything it looked like he hurt the Guardians easier than he hurt Ion.
You can't compare Ion's NORMAL attacks to a gigantic suicide bomb from a Guardian.
tell me when Prime beat Superman at his best one-on-one
He manhandled Superman (at his best), Kilowog, and Powergirl at the same time in GL#25. Superman hasn't even tried fighting him one on one.
If you really want to play this game, Thanos hasn't beaten any confirmed top tiers straight up except for Drax and Adam Warlock (without the Soul Gem). Even his win over Surfer involved a sucker blast to start it off.
we have the no powers fight in IC
we had a weakend Prime against Supes and the other two Krypswhen did the two square off and have Prime Ko Superman ?
i'd like to see scans
This is really pretty irrelevent. A weakened SBP blew a hole right through Superman's chest/shoulder area, and at full power SBP was overpowering Superman, Powergirl, and Kilowog at the same time.
the strongest weapon DS has as personal power are the Omega Beams
and Doomsday got up after they hit him dead on
1. The Omega Force is Darkseid's power source. Everything he does is an Omega-something or another. In fact, blasts from Apokolips guns have been called "Omega bullets" before (Darkseid has been shown to power Apokolips tech through his personal power). However, his BEST power is the wipeout beams. What he used against Doomsday were force beams.
2. Doomsday got up, but only after Darkseid assumed he was dead and walked away, giving him time to recover. It was obviously meant to be a display of Doomsday's recuperative power, similar to how you see Jason Voorhees or Michael Myers incapacitated and they look dead, but a minute later they're up and running. Doomsday didn't "shrug off" the blast ... He RECOVERED from it fast.
3. Darkseid has numerous ways to defeat Doomsday in a straight fight. For one, he would realize Doomsday's recuperative power. He could simply blast him from a distance until he's down for good, or blown to bits. It's not like Doomsday would dodge the blasts. Or he could use wipeout beams (and we saw in H/P that teleporting Doomsday to entropy can stop him). Or he could simply use the beams to teleport Doomsday into one of those Apokolips prisons that we've already seen are capable of holding him. Or he could try devolving Doomsday (the perfect counter to his evolution powers), as Darkseid has shown that ability before.
There are many reasons why the H/P encounter isn't as impressive as beating someone on Darkseid's level in a straight fight.
not to mention that i'm sure you ar emore than aware all the Guardains were worried about DS' power so how is just one Oan's power comprable to Darkseid's ultimate attack ?
The Guardians were wary of fighting Darkseid + Apokolips and Darkseid was wary of fighting them. Generally Ganthet and Highfather (Darkseid's equal when he's not jobbing) respected each other as peers.
show me where it says the GL ring protected DD from most of the damage
It doesn't need to be said. Doomsday was surrounded by a green aura the entire fight. He was protected by a personal GL force field like GLs always are. Aside from that, it's common sense. Doomsday had trouble with a single GL before he stole the ring. Once he took the ring, he was slaughtering entires waves of GLs at the same time.
This is actually an example of a Guardian being > waves of GLs (one of whom was able to briefly imprison Doomsday before he stole the ring).
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
UM, he's shown knocking superman out in the last part of the sinestro corps war. He also one shotted superman with heat vision. As for BA, He was knocked into another reality. Superboy was killed. One shotted or not. How the hell has THanos one shotted? THe thing? LMAO. Hulk? WOW. Slow ass Thor?
The Hulk would physically dominate DS and WW.
Thor would physically dominate DS and likely defeat WW.
The Thing? Well he sucks.
You can also add Surfer to that list along with a host of others.
Also, what relevance does being slow have to being knocked out?
Originally posted by Larceny
Didn't say he was less than a threat, only hat he'd be defeated physically just as she would by both Hulk and Thor.
You said Thor would dominate Darkseid and probably defeat WW, as if there's more uncertainty with WW. In any event, Thor could pull off an upset against Darkseid but he'd normally get owned, the way DS typically owns top tiers.
And Darkseid's never been "owned" by anyone top tier or below. He's lost to Superman straight up once, but after a long and tough fight. He's also smacked Superman down like a kid more than once, aside from routinely doing so to people like Orion and others that rival Thor physically.
Originally posted by Jimmy-Chan
You said Thor would dominate Darkseid and probably defeat WW, as if there's more uncertainty with WW. In any event, Thor could pull off an upset against Darkseid but he'd normally get owned, the way DS typically owns top tiers.And Darkseid's never been "owned" by anyone top tier or below. He's lost to Superman straight up once, but after a long and tough fight. He's also smacked Superman down like a kid more than once, aside from routinely doing so to people like Orion and others that rival Thor physically.
DS typically gets owned by Elites, at least Elites with S's on their chest. Hold up, I also remember a guy with a Bat on his chest beasting DS. ermm
Physically Thor would dominate DS, likely in a battle period.
So what was Ds last showing? Blood drawn from a street level and being completely owned by Superman was what?
Originally posted by Larceny
DS typically gets owned by Elites, at least Elites with S's on their chest. Hold up, I also remember a guy with a Bat on his chest beasting DS. ermmPhysically Thor would dominate DS, likely in a battle period.
So what was Ds last showing? Blood drawn from a street level and being completely owned by Superman was what?
You do realize that that wasn't DS last showing. And right before Shadow bat, who had some kind of tech making him invisible or immaterial or what ever, DS had just gotten blasted by the Staff of highfather on TOP of having to reabsorb the omega force. Did that slip your mind? And Speed blitzing superman had as lil affect on DS as Batman. DS last physical showing shows him taking Black mary's full attack and stomping his foot and ending the attack that quickly. he'd previously beat the crap out of Eclipso who pwned black mary and made her look like a fool.
Originally posted by Larceny
DS typically gets owned by Elites, at least Elites with S's on their chest. Hold up, I also remember a guy with a Bat on his chest beasting DS. ermmPhysically Thor would dominate DS, likely in a battle period.
So what was Ds last showing? Blood drawn from a street level and being completely owned by Superman was what?
1. Superman has ONE straight win against Darkseid. Even in S/B Darkseid was owning him before the interference. And recently a comic came out with DS pimpslapping Superman like a nuisance. Darkseid has owned Superman several times.
2. Superman didn't own Darkseid in the comic. He hurt Darkseid with a sucker speed blitz and then Darkseid left because the planet was about to be drawn into The Source. And Batman's kick had just as much effect (arguably more as DS grunted from the kick but not Superman's attacks) as Superman's speedblitz. If your argument really depends on a comic where Batman's kick looks as damaging as Superman's speedblitz, that says something about the strength of your argument. Might as well cite Thor getting KOed by an alien dropping a block on his head.
3. Just using recent issues, Darkseid has twice physically owned Superman, knocked him into The Source Wall. manhandled Orion, imprisoned a large team that included top tiers with ease, manhandled Etrigan, shrugged off a blast from Black Mary, oneshotted Orion and Firestorm in quick succession, and ignored Supergirl's attack like she wasn't even there.
Originally posted by LarcenyThor would not physically dominate Darkseid. Thor has relied on his hammer to much and pound ofr puond in a slugfest I give the nod to Ds if you take Thors hammer away for sure. Even if you disagree hes not dominating Darkseid especially without his hammer.
The Hulk would physically dominate DS and WW.Thor would physically dominate DS and likely defeat WW.
The Thing? Well he sucks.
You can also add Surfer to that list along with a host of others.
Also, what relevance does being slow have to being knocked out?
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlStomping his foot and ending the fight quickly. 😆 😆
You do realize that that wasn't DS last showing. And right before Shadow bat, who had some kind of tech making him invisible or immaterial or what ever, DS had just gotten blasted by the Staff of highfather on TOP of having to reabsorb the omega force. Did that slip your mind? And Speed blitzing superman had as lil affect on DS as Batman. DS last physical showing shows him taking Black mary's full attack and stomping his foot and ending the attack that quickly. he'd previously beat the crap out of Eclipso who pwned black mary and made her look like a fool.
Nope she left becuz Desaads clumsy ass interfered. 🙂