Is rock dead and/or dying?

Originally posted by Bat Dude
Only successful enough to get play on a minor radio station.... So I can listen to it, finally... 😄

While that may be "fame-chasing" (to get enough support to make it on a minor station), it's still done with the hope of being decent at what I do, and [B]making music I like ... (Cuz that's the most important thing, imo)

And I think if people liked Ratt, they'd appreciate what the band would be doing... (Or they might not, that's their decision)

The Darkness is pretty kool, but that one song "I Believe in a Thing Called Love" is just too annoying to listen to... (imo, their worst song)

Anyway... No, that's about it... [/B]

you never know you mght get on your local radio and become the best known artist in your town\city. its a high target but its good that people have ambition

what would you play or would you be vocals

Originally posted by the welsh one
you never know you mght get on your local radio and become the best known artist in your town\city. its a high target but its good that people have ambition

what would you play or would you be vocals

AC, to record it, you'd need the MONEY to buy the EQUIPMENT to record it... My thought isn't silly at all... I barely have the money to buy CDS! How could I buy recording equipment? You haven't thought that one through, have you? (Not to be offensive)

And I'd listen to it on the radio when...

A. I'm not playing it myself
B. I'm away from the band
C. I feel like it

I can't always be in a certain location or with the band, so when I'm out (away from band), I'd get the satisfaction of listening to good music, AND the pride that comes from knowing our band (our = me and those in it, obviously) made it ourselves... And knowing it gets at least some radio play means I can listen to it and NOT have to wear out my voice just to hear it when I want to...

and to the welsh one, I'd be vocals, as I'm fairly decent vocally, and I absolutely SUCK at guitar and drums (and bass) (plus I couldn't afford an instrument anyway)

Originally posted by Bat Dude
AC, to record it, you'd need the MONEY to buy the EQUIPMENT to record it... My thought isn't silly at all... I barely have the money to buy CDS! How could I buy recording equipment? You haven't thought that one through, have you? (Not to be offensive)

And I'd listen to it on the radio when...

A. I'm not playing it myself
B. I'm away from the band
C. I feel like it

No, look at what you're suggesting.

A) But you said you would be playing it so that it GETS on the radio. This is all assuming that you, a kid, can somehow kickstart a "hair metal" revival, of course. So...if you want to hear music you enjoy, but because there isn't much on the radio, you're making it yourself...why not JUST make it yourself, commit it to blank CD and just listen to that?

Buy the equipment with money saved and then do that.

B) That makes no sense.

C) Neither does that.

You want "hair metal" back on the radio, ok great. You have such ridiculous logic for this, however, that you've genuinely stumped me. You want it on the radio cos it's hardly on anymore, so you've said you'd make a band to get it there, when you could just make it and listen to it WITHOUT radio. Then you're saying that you want it on the radio just so you can listen to it while you're away from the band (As if being in a band places some spiritual radio-barrier on you), when you've not stopped to consider that for all these costs, you could buy the actual CDs that you claim you can't afford in the first place.

Jesus, think.

Originally posted by Bat Dude
I can't always be in a certain location or with the band, so when I'm out (away from band), I'd get the satisfaction of listening to good music, AND the pride that comes from knowing our band (our = me and those in it, obviously) made it ourselves... And knowing it gets at least some radio play means I can listen to it and NOT have to wear out my voice just to hear it when I want to...

So tape it and take it with you. WHY does it have to be on the radio?

I swear you've got no sense, like...at all.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
No, look at what you're suggesting.

A) But you said you would be playing it so that it GETS on the radio. This is all assuming that you, a kid, can somehow kickstart a "hair metal" revival, of course. So...if you want to hear music you enjoy, but because there isn't much on the radio, you're making it yourself...why not JUST make it yourself, commit it to blank CD and just listen to that?

Buy the equipment with money saved and then do that.

B) That makes no sense.

C) Neither does that.

You want "hair metal" back on the radio, ok great. You have such ridiculous logic for this, however, that you've genuinely stumped me. You want it on the radio cos it's hardly on anymore, so you've said you'd make a band to get it there, when you could just make it and listen to it WITHOUT radio. Then you're saying that you want it on the radio just so you can listen to it while you're away from the band (As if being in a band places some spiritual radio-barrier on you), when you've not stopped to consider that for all these costs, you could buy the actual CDs that you claim you can't afford in the first place.

Jesus, think.

So tape it and take it with you. WHY does it have to be on the radio?

[B]I swear you've got no sense, like...at all.

-AC [/B]

Ok... I could handle the shots taken at my musical tastes... And I could handle the repeated questioning of my motives for wanting my music on the radio... But saying I have no sense at all is crossing a line... What were you thinking when you typed that? That I wouldn't take that personally?

If you want to say my musical tastes are ridiculous, go ahead, it's your life... And if you want to question me till the morning light (if you get the Slaughter reference I just made), go ahead, it's your life... But the second you start blatantly insulting me, we have a problem...

Don't EVER insult me EVER again... And we won't have a problem... Get it? Got it? Good.

And I never said that I could kickstart a hair metal revival (a Motley Crue reference, that YOU made, actually), I just said that IF there are more people like me, they might WANT new hair metal ON THE RADIO... If they support us, the ones that want to could lobby for us to get on a small, local rock station, and then when we're not playing the music ourselves, and when we don't have the recorded material, we could LISTEN TO IT ON THE RADIO...

By "away from the band", I meant away from the recorded material, practices, etc. etc. etc. And if I WANTED to listen to our material, I could just flip on the radio, turn it to the station, and wait for the song to come on (when I'm AWAY from the RECORDED STUFF and etc.)

When you think about it, not everyone brings their CD players with them, so it's nice to have it on the radio also, should you not have it with you... (And not every band gets huge after being on the radio, so my monetary situation might NOT change, and I might NOT be able to afford the equipment to record in the first place, so when I think about it, radio would only happen if someone had made a donation to the band for recording equipment)

Originally posted by Bat Dude
Ok... I could handle the shots taken at my musical tastes... And I could handle the repeated questioning of my motives for wanting my music on the radio... But saying I have no sense at all is crossing a line... What were you thinking when you typed that? That I wouldn't take that personally?

If you want to say my musical tastes are ridiculous, go ahead, it's your life... And if you want to question me till the morning light (if you get the Slaughter reference I just made), go ahead, it's your life... But the second you start blatantly insulting me, we have a problem...

Don't EVER insult me EVER again... And we won't have a problem... Get it? Got it? Good.

First of all, you're insulted. Whether or not I INTENDED to insult you is another matter, and I didn't. That said, don't try to play the tough guy. You're a 15/16 year old kid with a "hair metal" affinity and a self-proclaimed mullet. There's genuinely nothing more unthreatening than you.

Second, your suggestions and plans really lack any logic or sense. It's not an insult, it's just there from reading your posts. Deal with it.

Originally posted by Bat Dude
And I never said that I could kickstart a hair metal revival (a Motley Crue reference, that YOU made, actually), I just said that IF there are more people like me, they might WANT new hair metal ON THE RADIO... If they support us, the ones that want to could lobby for us to get on a small, local rock station, and then when we're not playing the music ourselves, and when we don't have the recorded material, we could LISTEN TO IT ON THE RADIO...

What is your POINT? Your initial point was that music YOU LIKE, that you CANNOT AFFORD (As in, bands with albums), is not on the radio enough. You wanted it on the radio cos you could not afford it.

So, if you would JUST be satisfied with listening to similar music that YOU made yourself, WHY would it need to be on the radio for you to listen to it? If you wanted THEM to listen, fine, but to listen to your OWN material you do not need the radio. This is why your posts are void of any sense.

Originally posted by Bat Dude
By "away from the band", I meant away from the recorded material, practices, etc. etc. etc. And if I WANTED to listen to our material, I could just flip on the radio, turn it to the station, and wait for the song to come on (when I'm AWAY from the RECORDED STUFF and etc.)

Your recorded stuff IS going to be on the radio, what's the difference whether YOU play it or the radio play it? You really don't have a clue what you're on about.

If it's YOUR music that YOU want to listen to, why do you need radio? Why can't you just record it and play it to yourself?

Originally posted by Bat Dude
When you think about it, not everyone brings their CD players with them, so it's nice to have it on the radio also, should you not have it with you... (And not every band gets huge after being on the radio, so my monetary situation might NOT change, and I might NOT be able to afford the equipment to record in the first place, so when I think about it, radio would only happen if someone had made a donation to the band for recording equipment)

Now you're spiralling off into insane tedium.

-AC

Don't you fools know anything? Rock has been dying for the last 50 years, jeez.

I really think that this centauri guy should be banned. He is always in fights and silly discussions, over and over again, and he is hurting every post or discussion where he posts.

Do you honestly have nothing to do but follow me in this forum?

Reported for trolling.

-AC

Originally posted by BackFire
Don't you fools know anything? Rock has been dying for the last 50 years, jeez.

you best sleep with one eye open

Well, reported for flaming.

Yes, that'll get you far.

Challenging someone's opinion in ways you dislike does not constitute flaming. Posting in the music forum SOLELY because I do, always after me and always ABOUT me, WITH actual flaming posts, that may get you in trouble.

-AC

Insulting, cursing and scorning people and their opinions is just what you are doing, and that is flaming. You are reported.

It's not, actually.

Cursing (Swearing) and having opinions on opinions isn't flaming. Insulting? In context. Like, oh, showing up time after time, thread after thread and far from contributing to discussion, directing intended insults at another member (You are doing that).

He may be insulted, I'm not aiming comments at him as a person, just his logic and ideas in this thread.

Stop coming into every single thread, when you don't even use this particular forum anyway, and just moaning about me. It's getting boring. Am I the only reason you come to the music section? I must be. If I wasn't, you'd be able to post without mentioning me.

-AC

where i live real rock is dead, its all emo and chavs and emo music and hardcore dance music

it sucks

If you knew anything about punk, as you claim, you'd know that emo isn't what you're saying it is.

But oh well.

-AC

what do you know about the music scene where i live? nothing.

the emo music i was talking about is just distortiony guitars and grown men screaming and screetching, i still go to the emo gigs with friends though for the mosh pits and drunk girls 😄

Originally posted by the welsh one
what do you know about the music scene where i live? nothing.

the emo music i was talking about is just distortiony guitars and grown men screaming and screetching, i still go to the emo gigs with friends though for the mosh pits and drunk girls 😄

Yeah, that's not emo.

Hence why I said that if you knew about punk, as you claim to, you'd know it's not emo.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Yeah, that's not emo.

Hence why I said that if you knew about punk, as you claim to, you'd know it's not emo.

-AC

so the ramones are emo?

No, but that was neither what I said nor what I meant.

I said if you knew your punk history you'd know why the music you previously described is not emo, apparantly you do not.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
No, but that was neither what I said nor what I meant.

I said if you knew your punk history you'd know why the music you previously described is not emo, apparantly you do not.

-AC

the ramones were one of the first real punk bands, without the ramones punk would not be what it is

emo and punk have hardly any connections?