Originally posted by Darth Exodus
Bane wins. He's better in everyway than Vader, although they [b]may be equal in TK. POD, ROT, it doesn't matter, I just don't see Vader pulling out a win here.
Plus Bane's disintergrating lightning will be Vader's 2nd worse nightmare. Being molested by Sidious is no1, a fear shared by many. [/B]
How are Bane and Vader equal in TK, when Vader is probably the most skilled user of TK. When has Bane force choked someone that was not even in the same room, or force grip someone lightyears away?
The only advantage Bane has is his lightning.
Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
How are Bane and Vader equal in TK, when Vader is probably the most skilled user of TK. When has Bane force choked someone that was not even in the same room, or force grip someone lightyears away?The only advantage Bane has is his lightning.
When has Vader vaporized an ancient temple, or mind F'ed a charging rancor? Lets not even get in to the stuff Bane did in-ritual, or his tendency to mix saber combat w/Force attacks. Bane's showings > Vader's showings in the force. (That I know of)
Originally posted by Red Nemesis
When has Vader vaporized an ancient temple, or mind F'ed a charging rancor? Lets not even get in to the stuff Bane did in-ritual, or his tendency to mix saber combat w/Force attacks. Bane's showings > Vader's showings in the force. (That I know of)
Mind controling a rancor is not that impressive, considering they are not even sentient beings. Obi Wan using mind trick on a storm trooper is more impressive than that.
Bane required the help of other sith lords for his rituals. Besides a ritual would not help him much in this case.
Vaporizing a fortress is impressive, but lets not forget that Vader also crushed a fortress on kashyyyk with the force, or caved in walls to a room in the jedi temple, while force choking Malorum at the same time.
Oh and BTW, Vader has used force attacks during a duel. Remember all those TK storms he used against faster oponents?
Mind controling a rancor is not that impressive, considering they are not even sentient beings. Obi Wan using mind trick on a storm trooper is more impressive than that.Bane required the help of other sith lords for his rituals. Besides a ritual would not help him much in this case.
Vaporizing a fortress is impressive, but lets not forget that Vader also crushed a fortress on kashyyyk with the force, or caved in walls to a room in the jedi temple, while force choking Malorum at the same time.
Oh and BTW, Vader has used force attacks during a duel. Remember all those TK storms he used against faster oponents?
This is why I said that they might be on par in the area of TK. However, In my opinion Bane has used it to much greater effect in combat. When has Vader used a force push that can liquify bone? When has Vader vaporised metal with his TK? Broken through the shields of powerful jedi and sith masters like they were paper? Hmmmm..... well mabye the second one, but I've never seen him do it with the ease of Bane.
Plus Bane moved a moon 😄
Do you see the other posts? Especially the picture posts. And I know about Vader fighting Anya Kuro, 3 jedi knights, bring down very big tree, don't die after being hit by two pillars, force crushing vehicles, force choke people just by looking at them in monitor, beat Maul clone, etc. Look, do you realize that almost every character in EU don't really has a big flaw, weakness, or something like that. Especially the NJO. Meh. overrate Vader without backing him out? what do you want by saying that? make me mad? make me post bad words? make me say crazy things like boog? no chance.
Originally posted by Darth Exodus
This is why I said that they might be on par in the area of TK. However, In my opinion Bane has used it to much greater effect in combat. When has Vader used a force push that can liquify bone? When has Vader vaporised metal with his TK? Broken through the shields of powerful jedi and sith masters like they were paper? Hmmmm..... well mabye the second one, but I've never seen him do it with the ease of Bane.Plus Bane moved a moon 😄
What "powerful" jedi or sith's shields has Bane broken through? I don't think there was too many powerful sith back then, except for Kaan and a few others. Besides, Vader has broken through the shields of the force sensitive clones, created from one of the emperor's hands. Vader also imploded the entire body of Mon Mothma's son.
Again, Vader has force gripped Xizor, who was lightyears away. That shows a very great command of the force. One can even argue that this was the technique Palpatine was talking about in his book of anger, "Being able to crush cartlage from afar." That requires a very great command of the force.
Originally posted by Darth Exodus
This is why I said that they might be on par in the area of TK. However, In my opinion Bane has used it to much greater effect in combat. When has Vader used a force push that can liquify bone? When has Vader vaporised metal with his TK? Broken through the shields of powerful jedi and sith masters like they were paper? Hmmmm..... well mabye the second one, but I've never seen him do it with the ease of Bane.Plus Bane moved a moon 😄
Did Bane actually vaporize metal as in turned it into a gas with tk? because i am having a hard time imagining that (not because it's Bane but because it's a push that heated metal enough to convert it into gas)