Darth Bane vs Darth Vader

Originally posted by baneswrath
It is in one of the New Jedi Order books against the yuuzhan vong where Luke turns a dovil basil inside out and it destroys the creature it is protecting. Luke uses so much of the force to do it he passes out for hours afterward. Kyp has to do the same thing later on in the series where he turns the dovin basil of one of the yuuzhan vong ships inside out and afterwards he only has a headache. As for the book itself that these things are written in I'm sorry but I just don't have the energy to go through them all and find it. There are just to many of them.

I think that the ground-transport thing that Luke manipulated the dovin basal of was more massive than the ship that Kyp did it to, I may be remembering wrong.

Also, at some point in the NJO Anakin Solo is approaching Kyp and says something along the lines of a strong presence in the force is approaching(kyp), but not quite as strong as his(anakin). So is Anakin stronger than Kyp then?

Originally posted by baneswrath
It is in one of the New Jedi Order books against the yuuzhan vong where Luke turns a dovil basil inside out and it destroys the creature it is protecting. Luke uses so much of the force to do it he passes out for hours afterward. Kyp has to do the same thing later on in the series where he turns the dovin basil of one of the yuuzhan vong ships inside out and afterwards he only has a headache. As for the book itself that these things are written in I'm sorry but I just don't have the energy to go through them all and find it. There are just to many of them.

Pardon me if i take a while to respond i am gonna go track the quote down to see it's context.

I'm just saying that it is the way the book portrayed it. Whether Kyp is stronger or not to me does not matter. Luke is number one no matter what I just wish the authors would explain things better instead of leaving everyone to wonder what is and what isn't.

Ok I have found the passages in the books with the help of some other forums. When Luke does this it is in Dark Tide 1 pg. 260 and 261. When Kyp does this it is in Rebel Dream Pg. 238-240 there you go.

is ^this^ noobaris?

Originally posted by baneswrath
Ok I have found the passages in the books with the help of some other forums. When Luke does this it is in Dark Tide 1 pg. 260 and 261. When Kyp does this it is in Rebel Dream Pg. 238-240 there you go.

To my understanding of these respective parts of the book Luke's void (the black whole thing) was made by several dovin bassals protecting one creature while kyp's void we have no idea how many dovin basals made his (likely one since that is what seems to be standard in the Yuuzhan military). In addition "Kyp felt obliterated, bone-tired, as though he'd run for days, drawing on the Force to sustain him, and had finally settled down for rest." We must also consider that Kyp was a man in his prime whose body should have been able to take more then Luke's body who was 46 (and he has been involved in various battles throughtout most of his life).

Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11
is ^this^ noobaris?

I don't think so- BR has a different personality so far- much more tentative, more hesitant (I've only read some of the books)

From what I saw, there was little to no willingness to admit any failing whatsoever.
[/ignorant rant] (I don't really know nebaris at all. I just wanted to write some pseudo intellectual BS. Did I do ok?)

Good points

Originally posted by Red Nemesis
I don't think so- BR has a different personality so far- much more tentative, more hesitant (I've only read some of the books)

From what I saw, there was little to no willingness to admit any failing whatsoever.
[/ignorant rant] (I don't really know nebaris at all. I just wanted to write some pseudo intellectual BS. Did I do ok?)

One or two more sentences would have done the trick but you're right he's not "noobaris". If this "noobaris" character is as bas as they say our debate would have been a lot less diplomatic .

who is noobaris?

k the name is something that could defenitely belong to noobaris. noobaris pretty much is a bane fanboy, refuses to see reason or admit defeat, refuses to learn, flames, and pretty much just sucks at debating, even quality insulting, and life in general.

I am not noobaris if that is what you are all discussing. But I am willing to admit that I am wrong if there is enough evidence that proves it. So far what I have read in these discussions does not prove me wrong but has giving me alternate views to think about and you have all made good points. Like the Lumiya thing. Lumiya very well could have been just talking garbage to get Jacen to do what she wanted it just did not seem that way the book was written. It did not give her any alternate motives in the book. She simply taught Jacen to use the darkside and then died. Who knows it is what it is. She could have been just using Jacen to get back at Luke but it doesn't say so all one can do is speculate.

his posts aren't long enough, nor haughty enough to be noobaris. Speaking of, he's been gone almost a month now, hasn't he?

uh..I just said I wasn't noobaris

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lol, but you see, noobaris always says he isn't noobaris too!

i was agreeing with you!

I see lol.

Indeed. The fact that you denied that you were noobaris is actually the way that we know that you are noobaris. I said I was noobaris and look where i am today! hmm... maybe not the most motivating of examples...

Whatever....anyway I do have a question. Can anyone tell me why Leia uses a red lightsaber? Kind of off topic but I been wondering.

Actually, this is because OT never shows Vader and Sidious's true powers. If we judge Vader from the films, we can say he's slow and his saber fighting is lame. But if we judge Vader from the comic and novelization, we can say that he's very powerful. Altough his weakness is lightning, it doesn't mean he can be killed by any lightning user. Even Galen shoots lightning to Vader and Vader is still coming to Galen. Sadly many people in Earth judge Vader's powers only from the films, although some people know Vader from the novel and comic.