Namor, The Sub-Mariner vs Wolverine

epigastric region is STILL below the heart lungs and aorta to I don't know what the hell you're referring to there.
And the hypo regions house the liver and diaphram. You're reaching to say he was attacking the heart or lung.

And the aorta's center mass... 😐

Again...

Originally posted by jinzin
epigastric region is STILL below the heart lungs and aorta to I don't know what the hell you're referring to there.
And the hypo regions house the liver and diaphram. You're reaching to say he was attacking the heart or lung.

And the aorta's center mass... 😐

Again...

Originally posted by jinzin
epigastric region is STILL below the heart lungs and aorta to I don't know what the hell you're referring to there.
And the hypo regions house the liver and diaphram. You're reaching to say he was attacking the heart or lung.

And the aorta's center mass... 😐

Again...

Uh, no, I have my book right here in my lap and part of the heart and lung are in the epigastric and hypochondriac region respectfully. And you realize part of the lung extends down past where the stomach beings, right?

Cutting the abdominal aorta would cause massive bleeding.

Originally posted by Starscream M
why are you guys debating such technical details when neither the writer nor the artist thought so much into it when they depicted what they put onpanel?

BECAUSE I DON'T WANT THE MONEY I SPENT ON ANATOMY CLASS TO GO TO WASTE!

Originally posted by Mindset
Why doesn't Wolverine just run his claws through all his enemies faces?

The only way to get Namor to leave or stop fighting would have been to seriously hurt him. So if you are saying Wolverine just wanted Namor to leave then he would have had to hurt him to the point where he couldn't fight, which would have to be a significant amount of damage.

Maybe he wasn't aiming for the heart, maybe he was aiming for any number of other potentially lethal spots in the chest.

Idk why he followed up with a punch, I also don't know why he would stab him in the chest if his intention was to just get him to leave and he didn't want to hurt him.

Like whom? He's not out to kill everyone he fights. If you need that explained to you it's no small wonder why you fail to realize that IF Wolverine was aiming for the heart and he missed, it would simply be horrid horrid writing.

Now I thought we just went over that last part.. It's about escalation and retaliation.

Wolverine tried reason
Then threats..

When Namor opened a physical confrontation, force was really the only logical next step, and totally in line with Wolverine's personality of an eye for an eye.
It's not like opening up with violence is outside his character to get someone to back the **** off.
"you already lost a hand tonight. You wanna lose somethin else?"

And Logan just had a fight under which Namor walked away from having both sets of claws put into his clavicles he obviously has a high pain tolerance/threshold.

Again, either it's Wolverine not aiming for vitals or it's really horrible writing. Whichever. It hardly shows that Namor is > Logan. Especially when every piece of evidence outside of this single circumstantial fight says otherwise. 😬

Originally posted by Mindset
Uh, no, I have my book right here in my lap and part of the heart and lung are in the epigastric and hypochondriac region respectfully. And you realize part of the lung extends down past where the stomach beings, right?

Cutting the abdominal aorta would cause massive bleeding.

The stab wound was below the heart so much to the point you can't even argue that that was Logan's intent unless he is an idiot (which your low level of Wolverine knowledge would lead me to believe you think anyways). And the lung's mass resides above Wolverine's attempt, if he cut it it would have been a nick at the bottem.. l and being a fish man I don't even know how "vital" Namor's lungs even are to him.. Anyways, we WERE speaking of INTENT remember?

The fact is, that Logan struck in a point of Namor's body which can't really be argued to have been him aiming for anything vital, and arguing "well he didn't stab him in the middle of the chest" only compounds on that argument. 😐

Originally posted by jinzin
Yeah it would.. IF that's anywhere where Logan had hit him.. it wasn't

The stab wound was below the heart so much to the point you can't even argue that that was Logan's intent unless he is an idiot (which your low level of Wolverine knowledge would lead me to believe you think anyways). And the lung's mass resides above Wolverine's attempt, if he cut it it would have been a nick at the bottem.. l and being a fish man I don't even know how "vital" Namor's lungs even are to him.. Anyways, we WERE speaking of INTENT remember?

The fact is, that Logan struck in a point of Namor's body which can't really be argued to have been him aiming for anything vital, and arguing "well he didn't stab him in the middle of the chest" only compounds on that argument. 😐

No, it is where Logan hit him :/

Where Logan hit him could be fatal, that's why I believe his intent was to fatally wound him. Coupled with the fact that only a fatal wound would have stopped Namor from attacking also leads me to believe that.

I'm not sure what low level would be, I might forgot some instances of Logan here and there, but I have pretty much every Wolverine comic and hundreds of X-men ones. Now you have hurt my feelings. 🙁

Originally posted by Mindset
No, it is where Logan hit him :/

Where Logan hit him could be fatal, that's why I believe his intent was to fatally wound him. Coupled with the fact that only a fatal wound would have stopped Namor from attacking also leads me to believe that.

I'm not sure what low level would be, I might forgot some instances of Logan here and there, but I have pretty much every Wolverine comic and hundreds of X-men ones. Now you have hurt my feelings. 🙁

Cause Logan hit him center mass where the aorta resides an all. 🙄

Where Logan hit him, MIGHT be fatal, but most likely would not. You think Logan's intent was to fatally wound him because you have next to no scope on Logan's sheer skill or knowledge of anatomy.

Do you just skim through them? Or are you just unaware that Logan doesn't just kill capes on a whim...
Even people he doesn't like.

"I gotta be 100% sure, because if I do this he's 100% dead"

I agree, the writer/artist totally didnt put as much thought into this. That said, just out of memory (Im not digging up issues) wasnt Wolverine's stabbing of Namor nearly identicle to when he stabbed Thanos with the intent to kill?

Nah, he plunged both sets of claws straight into Thanos' chest. With Namor it was just around the floating ribs or directly above them.

I think the writer/artist had to put at least SOME thought into it, otherwise Namor would have been stabbed in the heart. 😬

It was Namor's own comic anyway, of course he won. That said I think he'd win on fair ground regardless.

And he still needed a plot device to pull it off. 😬

On fair ground he ain't winnin, in Central Park he's got a lot better odds.

Hasnt Namor repeatedly beaten the Hulk?

Most of his "victories" are scewed. He's beaten the Hulk when hulk wasn't in control of his own body, he's beaten the Hulk underwater (as one might expect) or by outsmarting Hulk.

Taking the fight to water or outsmarting him dont really seem scewed to me. Anyhow Namor, while being a hothead, has shown he isnt above fleeing to water. I just cant see Wolverine taking a majority here.

Erm I thought we were discussing fair ground.
having the ability to draw your opponent to a place that not only strengthens you and heals you, but robs them of their speed, balance, agility, and the air of life seems a bit unfair.

I mentioned the outsmarting part because if you're going to bring up Namor beating Hulk I'd assume it to be an attempt to pose Namor as > Logan. But if you take into account why it really doesn't stand as much.

Namor may be able to outsmart Hulk, but he's not doing that with Wolverine.

He may be able to outfight a mindcontrolled Hulk, but he won't don't that with Wolverine (and hasn't ironically).

True though, in this particular environment there's more in his favor than not.

Namor can create tsunamis just by fighting in the ocean

He can also fly, he just throws Wolverine into another area code

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Namor can create tsunamis just by fighting in the ocean

He can also fly, he just throws Wolverine into another area code

Considering how fast he is, I would doubt it.

Not to mention he's tough enough to take a few scratches

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Considering how fast he is, I would doubt it.

😂

Yeah that's the point.