Originally posted by Thunderstrike
Nice job with editing his post so you can slander him, Jinzin.
he's the one that said it... 🤨
if he doesn't care what the media says in the type of media that we're discussing then there's no point for him to comment on that media....
Originally posted by Thunderstrike
Wolverine still loses this fight, and you can't provide any evidence that he can.
yknow.. except for this...
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http://www.xbee.net/modules/xbee/images/comics_vo/new_invaders/new_invaders_cover6.jpg
Originally posted by Thunderstrike
You have no credibility here.
is that why I won the street level tourny? 😕
Originally posted by Thunderstrikeneed I remind you that venom by himself already has?
Need I remind you of "Wolverine with the Venom symbiote could take Superman?"
not to mention the fact that the rules here are pretty ambiguous when it comes to actually being used.. at the best of his abilities.. the symbiote can down prey like, hulk, juggernuaght, silver surfer, and the collecter.. yet superman is above them? hardly...
oh that's right.. the high end feats of the symbiote won't count as long as th majority agrees that they shouldn't count... pffft.
Originally posted by Thunderstrikeis that a necissity here when we're discusing a FICTIONAL media...
You're just a doofus with a big mouth. What are YOU doing here if you can't read into reality.
the reality is wolverine 1 namor 0 as it stands today... get over it...
Originally posted by Superherovandal
venom took and EXTREMELY weakened superman difference. and Wolvie gets curbstomped.
yes but when I made that post I had no idea that superman was weakened.... if he's going to attack me of a premise then we have to take it from the point in time that I made that premise.. at the time: superman lost plain and simple.
Originally posted by jinzin
he's the one that said it... 🤨
Originally posted by jinzin
if he doesn't care what the media says in the type of media that we're discussing then there's no point for him to comment on that media....[/B]
yknow.. except for this...
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http://www.xbee.net/modules/xbee/images/comics_vo/new_invaders/new_invaders_cover6.jpg
is that why I won the street level tourny? 😕
need I remind you that venom by himself already has?
not to mention the fact that the rules here are pretty ambiguous when it comes to actually being used.. at the best of his abilities.. the symbiote can down prey like, hulk, juggernuaght, silver surfer, and the collecter.. yet superman is above them? hardly...
oh that's right.. the high end feats of the symbiote won't count as long as th majority agrees that they shouldn't count... pffft.
is that a necissity here when we're discusing a FICTIONAL media...
the reality is wolverine 1 namor 0 as it stands today... get over it... [/B][/QUOTE]
Wait just a collar pickin minute. You actualy think Venom can take Superman?!
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You're still a tool. The reality is you're a Wolverine fanboy who can't face reality. Namor >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wolverine, kiddy.
Originally posted by Thunderstrike
He said part of it. You slandered him. Nice try tool.yknow.. except for this...
🙄http://www.xbee.net/modules/xbee/images/comics_vo/new_invaders/new_invaders_cover6.jpg
is that why I won the street level tourny? 😕
need I remind you that venom by himself already has?
not to mention the fact that the rules here are pretty ambiguous when it comes to actually being used.. at the best of his abilities.. the symbiote can down prey like, hulk, juggernuaght, silver surfer, and the collecter.. yet superman is above them? hardly...
oh that's right.. the high end feats of the symbiote won't count as long as th majority agrees that they shouldn't count... pffft.
is that a necissity here when we're discusing a FICTIONAL media...
the reality is wolverine 1 namor 0 as it stands today... get over it...
Wait just a collar pickin minute. You actualy think Venom can take Superman?!
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You're still a tool. The reality is you're a Wolverine fanboy who can't face reality. Namor >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wolverine, kiddy. [/B][/QUOTE]
the reality is that namors had two chances to prove you right and he's failed during both of them... pffft..
The reality is that in a Wolverine comic Wolverine always wins. You're still a tool, and evidently a Wolverine fanboy. Sorry, Jinzin, but you have no proof that you're a moron. You think Venom can take friggin Superman. Maybe if it was Superman after Doomsday had been layin into him after a few hours. Lemme guess. Wolverine could take Thor too?
Tool.
Originally posted by Thunderstrike
The reality is that in a Wolverine comic Wolverine always wins.
neither one of those fights with namor happened in a wolverine comic...
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Originally posted by Thunderstrike
You're still a tool, and evidently a Wolverine fanboy.
because I choose to believe that wolverine can do the things he's proven he could do? that's what dictates a fanboy? 😂
pathetic... your rationale's pathetic
Originally posted by Thunderstrike
Sorry, Jinzin, but you have no proof that you're a moron.
why would I have proof that I'm a moron? 🤨
if you're going to try and insult me at least try and NOT make a total asshat out of yourself...
Originally posted by Thunderstrike
You think Venom can take friggin Superman.
hulk vs. superman: every fight they've had has been on pretty level ground with the exception of perhaps their first.. wolverine gives hulk a VERY hard time..
venom vs. superman.. venom already creamed supes by himself..
wolvenom vs. superman? more creamage...
now again my viewpoints have changed since then but if you want to bring up something that old.. over and over again.... then lets discuss it.. since it's obviously made you bitter beyond what words can express..
Originally posted by Thunderstrikeconsidering the circimstances in the oher thread you still have yet to prove that he can't...
Wolverine could take Thor too?
Originally posted by badabingyou are aware he was created to fight one of the most top tier marvelites in the MU right?
The only way Wolvie beats Manor or Thor is with extreme PIS, CIS or jobber aura. I didn't note any of the three as Wolverine powers or abilities. Dude, seriously, there is no way Wolverine should ever come close to any top tier characters.
What proof do I have that you're a moron? Here ya go.
it's so sad how underratted those poor symbiotes are, everything that wolverine has would be increased by the symbiote 5 to 20 fold, including reflexes, precognitive senses, speed, healing factor, hightened senses, and obviously strength.
It's said that thos adamantium claws can go through anything, ANYTHING, with a symbiote, I believe, he would have more than sufficient strength to cut right through superman. heat vision? venom got blasted with a sonic gun, and them blasted by human torch immedietly after that, and because he was so pissed he was still beating the crap out of both of them before it was over. So while Superman's heat vision wouldn't be a walk in the park:
1: wolverine's berserker rage would help the symbiote push past the pain
2: Wolverine's been hit with cyclop's optic blast at point blank and just got up smoking,
3: Wolverine's been set on fire on multiple occasions, and it's never really slowed him down,
(Although one could argue effectively that in that same regard, spiderman, backed down venom with a lighter)
supe's strength? well like a few people stated before, logan fights hulk and a regular basis and has bested him several times. Venom had what it took to at least make a semi interesting fight against hulk and juggs, using just his brute strength, so combined I don't think strength will be too much of an issue because:
1:the symbiote would soften supes punches
2:wolverine's skeleton will soften the punches
3:Any damage that his punches did would heal practically instantaniously with an accelerated healing factor.
Which leaves us with speed. Well like i said in the carnage post, Venom was shown to capture quicksilver and flash rather easily using his symbiote, and wolverine caught ogun who's supposed to transcend the speed of light. Wolverine's nearly has fast and agile as spiderman without a symbiote, so with a symbiotic upgrade, imagine how much faster, agile, etc he would become, and he would know when superman was about to strike using his newly-possesed spider sense. Now as to whether or not he'll actually be able to do anything about it, i doubt it, but it would help him roll with the punches.
flight, well venom took apart the jury and they all fly so that answers that.
which leaves supes with his arctic breath,,,,,yeah he's gonna beat venolverine with breath,,,,i'm not saying it's inteirely inplausible.....just stupid.
The sad part is i keep giving good reasons why symbiotes are so dangerous in the right hands, but no one ever reads em, they just think i'm a loon.
That was posted by you. You're a moron.
Originally posted by Thunderstrike
What proof do I have that you're a moron? Here ya go.
it's so sad how underratted those poor symbiotes are, everything that wolverine has would be increased by the symbiote 5 to 20 fold, including reflexes, precognitive senses, speed, healing factor, hightened senses, and obviously strength.
It's said that thos adamantium claws can go through anything, ANYTHING, with a symbiote, I believe, he would have more than sufficient strength to cut right through superman. heat vision? venom got blasted with a sonic gun, and them blasted by human torch immedietly after that, and because he was so pissed he was still beating the crap out of both of them before it was over. So while Superman's heat vision wouldn't be a walk in the park:
1: wolverine's berserker rage would help the symbiote push past the pain
2: Wolverine's been hit with cyclop's optic blast at point blank and just got up smoking,
3: Wolverine's been set on fire on multiple occasions, and it's never really slowed him down,(Although one could argue effectively that in that same regard, spiderman, backed down venom with a lighter)
supe's strength? well like a few people stated before, logan fights hulk and a regular basis and has bested him several times. Venom had what it took to at least make a semi interesting fight against hulk and juggs, using just his brute strength, so combined I don't think strength will be too much of an issue because:
1:the symbiote would soften supes punches
2:wolverine's skeleton will soften the punches
3:Any damage that his punches did would heal practically instantaniously with an accelerated healing factor.Which leaves us with speed. Well like i said in the carnage post, Venom was shown to capture quicksilver and flash rather easily using his symbiote, and wolverine caught ogun who's supposed to transcend the speed of light. Wolverine's nearly has fast and agile as spiderman without a symbiote, so with a symbiotic upgrade, imagine how much faster, agile, etc he would become, and he would know when superman was about to strike using his newly-possesed spider sense. Now as to whether or not he'll actually be able to do anything about it, i doubt it, but it would help him roll with the punches.
flight, well venom took apart the jury and they all fly so that answers that.
which leaves supes with his arctic breath,,,,,yeah he's gonna beat venolverine with breath,,,,i'm not saying it's inteirely inplausible.....just stupid.
The sad part is i keep giving good reasons why symbiotes are so dangerous in the right hands, but no one ever reads em, they just think i'm a loon.
That was posted by you. You're a moron.
posted by me over a year ago, at a time when I was still coming to grasp the way the game is played on these boards... the only true show of knowledge is the admitance that one may not know everything there is to know... unfortunate it is for you that your ignorance leads you into insults so easily...
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Deathverine again?Any Wolverine feats outside that comic...?
And it didn't look like Hulk was punching Wolverine with full force, either. You realize that Hulk's full force punches have shattered mountains?
A single full force punch from the hulk would peel every last bit of flesh from those adamantium laced bones and turn every bit of human bone in the skeleton to a fine powdery ash (from the heat caused by the impact). This is because a punch from the hulk has more destructive power than a nuclear bomb. Can wolverine survive a nuclear bomb? Namor at his best isnt all that far below the hulk in raw power.
Wolverine also lacks the strength to cut into anything as tough as Namor's skin. Even the sharpest (surgical sharp) and strongest knife wont cut through a thoroughly frozen turkey without incredible strength and leverage, neither of which Wolverine has. Hulk, Namor, Thor, etc are all tougher than a thoroughly frozen turkey. They have survived unscathed explosions and concussions far greater than what a frozen turkey could endure.
Originally posted by badabingI believe I've already admitted several times that namor would take the majority...
Jinzin can you at least admit that ,without PIS, CIS or jobber aura, Wolverine stands very little chance of winning?
the only reason why I'm arguing is because of the "WHY" people choose to believe that he would lose... I have no problems saying namor could drop a building on logan or fry him with electircity, or cause a whirlwind around him by flying etc etc.. but in a contest of h2h.. wolverine is going to win IMO.. and he's proven me more or less correct on at least one occasion.. he's proven that my rationale isn't completely flawed on two.... I just don't like PIS because PIS is extremely subjective and a copout argument...
Originally posted by Thunderstrikesure you do.. I mean all i've got are facts.. you've got nothing but unwarrented insults... but yeah.. you own me. whatever it takes to help you sleep at night.
What insult. It's complete truth. You have no credibility. You can claim things all you want, but I just caught you in another thread saying the same thing. I'm sorry, but you lose.Jinzin, I own you.
Originally posted by aliveinboston= "i don't like it, it didn't happen"
A single full force punch from the hulk would peel every last bit of flesh from those adamantium laced bones and turn every bit of human bone in the skeleton to a fine powdery ash (from the heat caused by the impact). This is because a punch from the hulk has more destructive power than a nuclear bomb. Can wolverine survive a nuclear bomb? Namor at his best isnt all that far below the hulk in raw power.Wolverine also lacks the strength to cut into anything as tough as Namor's skin. Even the sharpest (surgical sharp) and strongest knife wont cut through a thoroughly frozen turkey without incredible strength and leverage, neither of which has Wolverine. Hulk, Namor, Thor, etc are all tougher than a thoroughly frozen turkey. They have survived unscathed explosions and concussions far greater than what a frozen turkey could endure.
